r/trektalk 6h ago

Discussion [Interview] New Star Trek Movie Writers Tease “Dark” Story About “Bad Apples” In Starfleet - John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein's in-progress Trek film is a very big swing: "Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide" (Inverse)

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INVERSE:

"Speaking to Inverse about their new comedy/action film Mayday — starring Ryan Reynolds and Sir Kenneth Branagh — Daley and Goldstein took time to shed a little more light on what their Star Trek script will be like. [...]

“I would say it's really kind of a look at the institution of Starfleet and any institution as a whole that has existed for a long time and what that does,” Daley tells Inverse. “ I think the portrayal of Starfleet and the people that work within it have always been generally idealized versions of what the future could be. And while this [script] isn’t a cynical or nihilistic take on it, I think it does acknowledge that there are some bad apples in every institution that can have a strong voice and can really make an impact on that institution and everything it stands for.”

“Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide ,” Goldstein tells Inverse.

“It takes place almost in real time, and it just is a whole other look at what a Star Trek movie could be without betraying the fundamentals of what it should be,” Daley adds.

Fans of the excellent film Crimson Tide will probably remember that, interestingly, that film has more than one reference to the original Star Trek. [...]

The filmmakers also note that their hope with this film is to make something that lives well beyond the expectations and borders of existing fandom. “I mean, look, we don't want to rely on fandom,” Goldstein says. “We don't want to just hope that there's enough fans of the original [TOS] or The Next Generation or whatever who will turn out for this. We want to just make a great movie that lives in the world that people are familiar with — some people are familiar with — and that others will discover. And then, with good fortune, we launch a new franchise into existence.”

Ryan Britt (Inverse)

Link:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/exclusive-new-star-trek-movie-writers-tease-dark-story-john-francis-daley-and-jonathan-goldstein


r/trektalk 8h ago

Lore [SNW Highlight Clips] Star Trek on Instagram: "Exactly how many Klingon-occupied planets has M'Benga been on? Exactly "don't worry about it" and counting." | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (S4, E4): "A Case of Chiaroscuro"

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Source:

Star Trek on Instagram

Link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DcKKxvQBggS


r/trektalk 8h ago

Character Discussion [SNW 4x4 Reactions] Mollie and the Old Man: "Dr. M'Benga doesn't ever come across to me as a doctor. They should have made him head of security. I mean, yeah, he's bloodthirsty, but at least his skill set would have lined up better than being a doctor. He can say he loves healing people, but ..." Spoiler

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THE OLD MAN:

"He can say he loves healing people, but Nurse Chapel does all the work. She's the effective doctor on this ship. I don't know what M'Benga is. I guess murderer. I don't because when I was sitting there and that lady took that poison and she died over there and M'Benga was like, "Uh, she's dead." Are you going to go over there and look?

I would have expected him to want to go over there and look and for somebody to go, "No, no, you can't do that. They'll you got to let it happen." And him to say something like, "The heck with that. I'm going to treat this patient!" Because he didn't knowwhat happened to her, what that poison was. Maybe Enterprises technology would have been able to save her. He didn't know what that was, but he didn't seem to care that there was a patient there.

Well, a potential patient that was killing herself and he wasn't going to do a damn thing to help her, even if it risked the eye of the Klingons. Cuz I know there's going to be some defenders saying, "Well, you couldn't do that." He knew that. He was so experienced. He knew the Klingons were going to stop him and do bad things. There was no way to know that.

His instinct should have been to help that person, but Dr. M'Benga doesn't ever come across to me as a doctor. They should have made him head of security. I mean, yeah, he's bloodthirsty, but at least his skill set would have lined up better than being a doctor.

[...]

Maybe don't do Klingons. Maybe just make it two factions somewhere. Why do you need the Klingons?"

MOLLIE:

"So that they could have Dr. M'Benga go on this trip?

THE OLD MAN:

"I guess. Which, you know, at the ending of this episode, too. I guess they were making a meta commentary when M'Benga - not just in this episode, but like ever - Nurse Chapel's doing all the medicine, but he really cared about all those people he killed to save his patients."

MOLLIE:

"Well, apparently he loves being a healer, but he's got these mad skills when it comes to killing people. And what a shame it is ..."

Source:

'Mollie and the Old Man' on YouTube

The PILOT for SLIDERS Meets CASABLANCA—Star Trek: Strange New Worlds S04E04 Review

Link:

https://youtu.be/lxE8RvsMzLg?si=QrcgOw_IcHgiFUox&t=1683

Time-stamp:

28:03 min


r/trektalk 9h ago

Analysis Screenrant: "It’s Understandable Why Dr. M’Benga Wants To Leave The USS Enterprise: Yes, it's all part of the job. However, that doesn't take away from the trauma the Enterprise's crew must reconcile when impossible things happen to them so frequently. Spock secretly also wants to leave ..." Spoiler

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Screenrant:

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-mbenga-leave-enterprise-harsh-reality/

By John Orquiola

"Since Star Trek: Strange New Worlds began, Captain Christopher Pike's crew (Anson Mount) was also forced to sing in a musical, were kidnapped by the Gorn, and had reality warped by Trelane (Rhys Darby).

For Dr. M'Benga, serving on the Enterprise saw him give up his young daughter, Rukiya (Sage Arrindell), who became part of a cosmic being in a nebula. Joseph murdered a Klingon Ambassador (Robert Wisdom) and covered it up, survived Klingon zombies, and was nearly bisected in his own sickbay. After everything M'Benga has endured aboard the Enterprise, and in his sordid past as a Starfleet assassin, he is justified in feeling that he's had enough of exploring strange new worlds.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' puppet episode ended with the twist that the puppets were all Lieutenant Spock's (Ethan Peck) dream. This means that puppet T'Pring's assessment of the Starship Enterprise as a ship of "chaos" and "pandemonium" cime from Spock's subconscious. It reveals a harsh truth that, deep down, the Vulcan Science Officer wants to get off the Enterprise, at least for a while.

Spock's life aboard Captain Pike's Enterprise has been a series of emotional traumas. Switching bodies with T'Pring, being turned human, and then breaking up with T'Pring in the first two seasons of Strange New Worlds alone is enough grief to process. Since then, Spock has been dumped twice more, by Nurse Chapel and, recently, by Lieutenant La'an Noonien-Singh (Christina Chong). Yet Spock still must work with his exes every day. ...

Lieutenant Spock regularly risks his life for the Enterprise, including in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 4, episode 6. "Off-Hour" saw Spock attempt an incredibly dangerous space walk to the Enterprise's ion pod while it was in the slipstream wormhole. Spock managed to survive the ion pod's ejection, and he was rescued by La'an, but returned with severe radiation poisoning, foreshadowing the Vulcan's death in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. ...

Star Trek canon says Mr. Spock won't leave the USS Enterprise, while Dr. M'Benga does get to exit by the end of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, although he returns in Star Trek: The Original Series. The Starship Enterprise is undeniably a prestigious and glamorous posting for a Starfleet officer, but it's also incredibly dangerous, a magnet for trauma, and death is a tragic reality in the final frontier."

Read more:

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-mbenga-leave-enterprise-harsh-reality/


r/trektalk 12h ago

Character Discussion [Interview] The Untold Story of How Avery Brooks Became Sisko - Director DAVID LIVINGSTON shares the fascinating story of how he was partially responsible for Avery Brooks joining Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as Benjamin Sisko ... (The Transporter Room)

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THE TRANSPORTER ROOM:

"David Livingston shares the fascinating story of how he was partially responsible for Avery Brooks joining Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as Benjamin Sisko. After seeing Brooks deliver a magnetic, powerful performance in Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Livingston remembered him when the team was searching for the actor who would ultimately lead Deep Space Nine.

He also reveals why getting Avery Brooks into the role wasn’t as straightforward as it might seem—and why the producers and writers initially struggled to fully understand both Avery and Sisko. According to Livingston, the turning point came when the show began writing more directly to Brooks’ unique strengths and finally allowed Sisko’s visual identity to evolve.

From the debate over Avery Brooks’ bald head and goatee to the moment the creative team realized what they truly had in him, this behind-the-scenes story offers a revealing look at how one of Star Trek’s most iconic captains came into his own. Livingston describes that evolution as a seminal part of Deep Space Nine’s eventual success."

Video Clip:

https://youtu.be/MOa9dfLtYy4?si=kuKSnYoXAe0g3hCR

Full interview:

https://youtu.be/jg0lsFmzWyI?si=kAUsO13p4RqC8miN


r/trektalk 13h ago

CBR: "4 Star Trek Villains Who Were Actually Right: Picard’s Commodore Oh Did What She Thought Was Necessary - Seska Was Right About Janeway’s Decision to Destroy the Array - TNG’s Q Was Right to Put Humanity on Trial - Harry Mudd Was Right About Starfleet’s Role in the Klingon War"

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CBR:

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-villains-who-were-right-list/

By Amy Watkins

"Across its 13-series franchise, Star Trek has introduced some of the most memorable villains in sci-fi. From the cybernetic wrath of the Borg to the ruthless dictatorship of Gul Dukat, the Federation has faced no shortage of formidable foes, each challenging the principles and morals of the Enterprise heroes.

However, while Trek has had its fair share of indefensible Big Bads, many of its antagonists have been anything but black and white. Whether motivated by a desire for independence, a distrust of Starfleet, or a willingness to correct a flaw in the Federation’s policies, these villains had more validity than their actions would suggest. In fact, it could be argued that, in one way or another, they were actually right.

Star Trek: Picard’s Commodore Oh was a Zhat Vash double agent hell-bent on destroying all synthetic life in the galaxy. However, the reasoning behind her actions can be somewhat understood. Members of the Zhat Vash were subjected to the Admonition, a vision passed down through generations that warned of the destruction of all organic life at the hands of AI.

It’s hard to defend Oh's methods, but not so much her fear. Being one of the few to survive the Admonition, which causes a violent sensory overload to those who view it, Oh had every reason to believe that synthetic life posed an existential threat.

While she was wrong to manipulate Starfleet and mastermind the attack on Mars, there’s no denying that Oh had seen the consequences of inaction and was willing to do whatever it took to prevent them. ..."

Read more:

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-villains-who-were-right-list/


r/trektalk 13h ago

An old person watching the 90s Trek

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Last night I tried watching one of the 90s Trek shows. Back in the 90s I was an adult and I didn't see all the seasons of all the Trek shows. Which means the old episode I watched was "new" to me. Anyway, I watched one episode of one of the three series and it felt like the target audience was for smart 14 year olds. Maybe it was just that particular episode or that I'm older or that modern (Battlestar, Expanse) sci-fi seems much darker and more sophisticated. Plus my taste in drama has certainly changed over the decades.

Setting aside any nostalgic and youthful memories, anyone else have a similar experience? I won't say which series because I don't want this to turn into a discussion about which was best.


r/trektalk 14h ago

Discussion [Interview] Brent Spiner Was the Lowest-Paid Actor on Star Trek: TNG | Dropping Names

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r/trektalk 16h ago

I'm writing a 25th Century Star Trek fan series. First two scripts are posted on AO3 if anyone would like to read them.

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The series is called "Star Trek: Outlaws". The stories are written in screenplay format, and so far I've completed about 30 scripts out of a planned ~60.

A few Trek fans have read all my scripts to date and enjoyed them, and I've started to share the first couple stories more widely on the fanfic website Archive of Our Own (AO3): the pilot (feature-length, slow burn, non-traditional act structure) and the following episode (with standard act structure). Here's a short summary:

Set in the early 25th Century, the series follows a brother and sister, Argo and Zia, who resolve to hijack a Federation starship to pursue a dangerous endeavor across the galaxy to save Argo's life, defying the legacy of their late father and the values of the Federation they were raised to hold dear. Joining them are a motley crew of former Starfleet officers and renegade militia (including a couple of familiar faces). As the crew traverse into unknown space, they'll be faced with ethical dilemmas while wrestling with their own consciences of how their mission began, as they uncover the secrets of a mysterious race lost to legend.

If anyone here would like to check them out, the link to the series on AO3 is below, and I'd love to get any feedback from fellow Trekkies, good or ill. I hope anyone doing so enjoys them.

https://archiveofourown.org/series/6481476 (formatted for desktop/laptop users, works best in landscape mode on phones).


r/trektalk 20h ago

Character Discussion Inverse: "How Star Trek's Most Kickass Doctor Keeps SNW Grounded: In talking about “A Case of Chiaroscuro” and the tone of Ep. 6, “Off Hour,” Babs Olusanmokun reveals the fact that, yes, he very much likes to go dark, or at the very least, explore the straightforward aspects of his character"

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Inverse:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/babs-olusanmokun-strange-new-worlds-star-trek-interview-canon

By Ryan Britt

Babs Olusanmokun is the badass the Final Frontier needs.

"As Strange New Worlds hits its midpoint in Season 4, Inverse caught up with the actor to reflect on the duality of M’Benga — a healer who is also the most deadly member of the crew, a secret weapon hiding in plain sight. ...

While SNW (and other Trek shows) have often featured episodes in which the characters play dress-up (see: multiple holodeck episodes from the TNG/DS9/VOY era for proof), what makes “A Case of Chiaroscuro” somewhat unique is that the anachronistic aesthetic isn’t for laughs; instead, the episode plays it straight. And it’s no surprise M’Benga is at the center of it all, having been on more undercover missions than Una and Uhura.

“For me, it was very easy to embrace that story and just to live that noir atmosphere,” Olusanmokun tells Inverse. “I’m truly trying to solve a problem and trying to stay safe. With Una and Uhura, I’m trying to just give tips, like: ‘Listen, we want to make it back alive. Here’s how to do that.’”

As SNW has previously established, M’Benga is as much of a warrior as he is a doctor, having taken out many, many Klingons in the military conflict that exists in the Discovery Season 1 era of Trek. Basically, when you need a doctor and some muscle on your away team, M’Benga is both. He’s also, in a sense, a therapist for people who need to figure out how to become badasses.

“It's not a terrible thing. It simply shows the breadth of his experience across Starfleet,” Olusanmokun says. “I think he’s an officer that’s dealt with a lot; his background of taking care of people goes across the whole spectrum. If you’re in a bed in sickbay, he’s got a way about him. But if someone needs to go further afield, he’s got an idea or two. He’s a Swiss Army knife, really.” ...

In the 2009 Star Trek film, Dr. McCoy (Karl Urban) famously said: “Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence,” but M’Benga is a character who actually allows the audience to feel the weight of that sentiment, without making a joke about it. In talking about “A Case of Chiaroscuro” and the tone of Episode 6, “Off Hour,” Olusanmokun reveals the fact that, yes, he very much likes to go dark, or at the very least, explore the straightforward aspects of his character.

“You know what? I love laughing, and I have a lot of laughter in my life, but I'm also deeply attracted to pieces where it's just a sober truth and a dramatic truth,” Olusanmokun says. “I like the exploration of that and the sincerity of those pieces. I don't need a wise crack in the middle of the heaviness of reality.” ...

For Olusanmokun, it’s all more signs of the dimensionality of M’Benga, the notion that this is a realistic character, existing in a fantastic and sometimes hyperbolic world.

“It’s almost like he’s grieving a loss before it happens,” Olusanmokun says. “I try to color that in there. There is a kind of transitional doubt and uncertainty. He’s wondering, ‘Am I really in the place I need to be? Maybe I’m a little too familiar with these people?’” ..."

Read more:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/babs-olusanmokun-strange-new-worlds-star-trek-interview-canon


r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [Interview] SNW writer Bill Wolkoff explains his recipe for a disaster...episode! Where he got the idea for his cosmic tidal wave, some lost moments, and how he got us to believe a legacy character might die ... | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | Open Pike Night

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Lore Movieweb: "How Strange New Worlds' "Off-Hour" Connects To 'Star Trek: Voyager's "Threshold": Both episodes share an underlying premise, despite being separated by 30 years. However, they're far from similar when it comes to how they approach the elusive speed of Warp 10." Spoiler

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Movieweb:

"30 Years Later, Star Trek Finally Fixes a Controversial 'Voyager' Twist"

By Daniel Bibby

"There's been no official effort from the franchise to scrub the weird salamander twist from the established lore. "Off-Hour" is the first time it's ever been properly attempted. Rather than the threat of everyone aboard evolving into some potential future blueprint of their species, the Enterprise is said to simply disintegrate if it crosses the Warp barrier. It's a far more straightforward and infinitely less trippy incentive to stay firmly below Warp 10. Thankfully, Pike and company manage to break free from the wormhole just before breaking the Warp barrier, keeping everyone alive.

I think it's safe to say that this is certainly the intention of "Off-Hour," but the episode stops short of fully undoing that divisive Voyager reveal from 30 years ago. Because the Enterprise breaks free of the wormhole before crossing the Warp barrier, we never actually get to find out if the ship would have disintegrated. It's probably just as likely that the Federation's flagship would have occupied everywhere at once like Paris did in "Threshold," followed by its crew eventually starting to physically transform over time.

Personally, I think "Off-Hour" is suggesting that its Warp 10 near miss is all that stood in the way of everyone going full salamander down the line. In other words, what happened to Lt. Paris is probably still part of the canon, but the crew of the Enterprise narrowly avoided experiencing the same thing by breaking out of the wormhole just in time. On the other hand, maybe Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is just offering up an alternative Warp 10 possibility to oppose "Threshold," leaving each viewer to decide whether "Off-Hour" is an actual Voyager retcon or not."

Read more:

https://movieweb.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-threshold-retcon/


r/trektalk 1d ago

Review [SNW 4x6 Review] DEN OF GEEK: "It works because of the characters at its center. Babs Olusanmokun &Jess Bush have never been better. While SNW has become known for its big narrative swings and boundary-pushing framings, sometimes it’s nice to be reminded they aren’t what makes this show so special" Spoiler

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DEN OF GEEK:

"No, what we’re interested in is these people, who come together in a variety of collaborative, supportive, sacrificial, and occasionally physics-defying ways when they need it most. [...] And it’s the quiet moments — M’Benga finishing his lame joke, Chapel requesting to be officially assigned to the Enterprise, Pelia and Scotty pressing their palms in tandem to the walls of the ship — that stay with us, long after the flashy wormholes are gone. [...]

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-4-episode-6-review-off-hour

Not everything about this episode is perfect. M’Benga’s horrific injury has a whiff of Grey’s Anatomy about it, as a magnetic lab table essentially holds the two halves of his severed torso together, keeps his major organs in place, and prevents him from bleeding out. (Is this possible? Maybe, but I certainly didn’t want to Google it.) The ultimate fix for the ship’s seemingly certain doom is pretty ridiculous—theoretical ghost particles known as “strong force neutrinos” are not only in the wormhole all around them, they can somehow heal M’Benga and provide the Enterprise with the power it so desperately needs.

If this sounds completely made up, that’s because it generally is. “You’re saying that strong force neutrinos can heal M’Benga and make fuel?” Pike asks incredulously at one point, speaking for us all. “Almost sounds too good to be true, I know,” Scotty says, and at least this iteration of Star Trek is sly enough to openly lampshade its nonsensical technobabble rather than expecting any of us to really follow it. It knows that’s not what we’re really here for, anyway.

[...]

The relationship between M’Benga and Chapel is one of Strange New Worlds’ most interesting—but not in the way most of us probably expected. The two are not only colleagues, but they’re also genuine friends, trauma-bonded war veterans who served together and know each other better than almost anyone else on the ship. (The only relationship that likely rivals theirs in terms of depth and longevity is Pike and Una’s.) Of course she’s going to defy all logic, good sense, and a direct order from a superior officer to try to save him, or die alongside him in the process.

Babs Olusanmokun and Jess Bush have never been better, often conveying their shared fear and determination to be brave for one another through little more than subtle facial expressions.

Comparatively speaking, we aren’t nearly as familiar with Scotty and Pelia’s relationship. They have a shared history and a clear mentor-student dynamic, but their bond is as much about what they do as who they are. They love starships, the Enterprise in particular, and sometimes that love requires as much of a leap of faith as any of the choices being made by Chapel and M’Benga in sick bay. Strange New Worlds gets a lot of mileage out of Carol Kane being funny; this week it finally remembers to let her be heartfelt, and the idea that Scotty’s reputation as a miracle worker technically begins with Pelia reminding him to see the immense possibility in their relationships with these machines is, well. It’s genuinely lovely. [...]

Given how many Strange New Worlds characters must survive this episode simply because The Original Series exists, it’s remarkable how genuinely tense almost everything about this hour feels. Sure, we all know that M’Benga is going to somehow make it through after being literally cut in half by a lab table. But there’s more than one moment when it seems almost certain that Strange New Worlds is going to throw canon out the window.

It’s a testament to the strong writing of this particular installment that things we know to be impossible, narratively speaking, feel more than a little bit likely. [...]"

Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars

Lacy Baugher (Den of Geek)

Full review:

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-4-episode-6-review-off-hour


r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [Rumors] Jamie Rixom: "One show that ended Star Trek under Kurtzman ... and no.. its not Starfleet Academy. It was really Section 31 that made the new Paramount bosses, when they took over, really made their mind up, and really made them look at Kurtzman." (Video-Clip)

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Character Discussion Inside ‘Star Trek: SNW’s ‘Hangover’ Episode - Dave Foley on Dendru: "He’s just a happy facilitator of whatever people need. A lot of people who’ve been traumatized in war are now benefiting from psychedelic therapy. I think he believes that Ortegas can jumpstart a happier way to live"

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TVInsider:

https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/

By Meredith Jacobs

"Dave Foley guest stars as the one who runs the resort, and as a “huge fan of all things Star Trek, going back to growing up on The Original Series,” he was thrilled when he was offered the part.

“When I first got there, I was touring the sets and FaceTiming my daughter, and she said, ‘Dad, I’ve never seen you this happy,'” he shares.

He enjoyed that his character was “fun” and “silly,” adding, “Even if they aren’t quite sure what they need, he’s there to make sure they get it. He’s just a happy facilitator of whatever people need.”

As Dendru tells Ortegas, he used to be like her and knows how it feels to always be looking for something to be angry about.

“Psychedelic therapy can be very curative. A lot of people who’ve been traumatized in war are now benefiting from psychedelic therapy. So, I think Dendru believes that she can jumpstart a happier way to live,” says Foley.

As for any improv he did for the episode, “little bits here and there, a little ad-libbing. I know when we were going over the details of the contract, the fine print and the micro print, that was kind of a bit ad-libbed,” he reveals."

Read more:

https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/TVInsider:https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/


r/trektalk 1d ago

[Opinion] FandomWire: "Strange New Worlds: The 7 Weirdest Star Trek Episodes That Are Surprisingly Good, Ranked"

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  1. Subspace Rhapsody - The Musical Episode (SNW 2x9)

  2. Those Old Scientists - Crossover with Lower Decks (SNW 2x7)

  3. Charades - Sitcom: "Spock is a bacon girly pops now." (SNW 2x5)

  4. The Elysian Kingdom - Fairy Tale (SNW 1x8)

  5. Spock Amok - RomCom: Body Swap Episode (SNW 1x5)

  6. Wedding Bell Blues - Spock and Korby meet Trelane (SNW 3x2)

  7. A Space Adventure Hour - TOS parody (SNW 3x4)


FANDOMWIRE:

"Star Trek: Strange New Worlds has built its fandom on exploring different genres and giving them a twist of their own. It is the reason why fans consider it to be the best Star Trek show since The Original Series and the TNG run. Multiple episodes of the show have swung for the fences in terms of weirdness and quirks.

This list ranks the show’s seven strangest installments. Each entry is judged on critical and fan reception, how well the weird premise served character development or canon, and whether the experiment actually paid off rather than just existing as a gimmick.

https://fandomwire.com/strange-new-worlds-the-7-weirdest-star-trek-episodes-that-are-surprisingly-good-ranked/

  1. Subspace Rhapsody

As the franchise’s first full musical episode, it drove several major relationship arcs forward for Spock, Chapel, Uhura, and Pike, and it landed as a critical favorite precisely because it used its wildest premise to deliver genuine emotional payoffs.

  1. Those Old Scientists

The culture clash between Lower Decks‘ irreverent comedy and Strange New Worlds‘ more grounded tone could easily have collapsed, but the episode was praised for respecting both shows’ voices while still landing real emotional stakes for its time-displaced visitors.

  1. Charades

Despite the sitcom premise, this Strange New Worlds episode deals with identity and sees an incredible performance from Ethan Peck as Spock. It is weird in terms of its premise being specific to Spock and the hijinks treatment.

  1. The Elysian Kingdom

Underneath the whimsical medieval trappings is a genuinely moving meditation on grief and terminal illness, giving Babs Olusanmokun one of the season’s most affecting performances inside an otherwise playful premise.

  1. Spock Amok

Spock and T’Pring exchange each other’s minds at a critical point in their careers and on the day when they are needed the most. It is campy hijinks again, and both actors play each other’s parts incredibly well.

The high-stakes diplomatic negotiation with the R’Ongovian Protectorate and Starfleet life conflicting with each other in a rom-com scenario is hilarious, and the premise is pretty quirky.

  1. Wedding Bell Blues

Trelane, a mischievous entity, traps Spock in a fabricated wedding of Christine Chapel after their brief love affair goes cold. Spock is stuck in a nightmare while many things just don’t make sense to the rest.

Guest star Rhys Darby brings gleeful menace to the role, and a surprise vocal cameo from John de Lancie ties Trelane directly to TNG’s Q, making this a fun, if lower-stakes, romp.

  1. A Space Adventure Hour

It is a tongue-in-cheek meta episode with references to franchise creator Gene Roddenberry and the original series’ behind-the-scenes fiascos.

It ranks lowest in the list because while it swings for the fences in terms of exploring a genre that is not quite fitting to a sci-fi show, it is still less in the weirdness quotient compared to others on the list.

[...]"

Nishanth A (FandomWire)

Full article:

https://fandomwire.com/strange-new-worlds-the-7-weirdest-star-trek-episodes-that-are-surprisingly-good-ranked/


r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [SNW 4x7 Preview] Star Trek on Instagram: "Flipping through these first images from the next episode of Strange New Worlds and wondering: what could all these dramatic stares be about...?" | The Soap Opera Episode: "Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass"

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Theory Redshirts: "Star Trek fan theory: Ethan Peck will play Sybok in SNW S4 (and it sounds logical)" - "Like the soap operas of old, the long lost sibling or cousin shows up and are played by the series regular actor who has been on the show for years. It still falls under the category of stunt casting"

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Analysis [Interview] Jess Bush On The Message Of Star Trek: SNW Season 4's "Off-Hour": "If you lose faith, your friends will never lose faith in you. They know what you're capable of, and the strength you get from the people who love you and know you is unmatchable in life." (ScreenRant)

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Debate Trek Politics: "Debating STAR TREK’S Most DIVISIVE Movie - Mary Trump and Bob Cesca break down Star Trek: The Motion Picture, from Kirk’s command drama and endless padding to Spock, the Enterprise refit, and its strangest choices."

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Slashfilm: "The Best Star Trek Books Ever Should Have Been Adapted Into A TV Series: The premise of "New Frontier" was so strong, and the "cast" so impressive, it could have easily made for an actual televised spinoff. Peter David established a rich world full of new stories."

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Slashfilm:

https://www.slashfilm.com/2245176/best-star-trek-books-new-frontier-need-tv-adaptation/

By Witney Seibold

"The legendary Marvel comic book author and widely celebrated "Star Trek" tie-in novelist Peter David invented an entirely new "Star Trek" ship, stocked it with its own raft of characters, and sent it on its own continuing mission, all to be experienced in a long-running series of books called "Star Trek: New Frontier."

The premise of "New Frontier" was so strong, and the "cast" so impressive, it could have easily made for an actual televised spinoff. It bore a lot of similarities to "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine," in that it was about the shaky reconstruction of a fallen world, but placed its central Starfleet vessel, the USS Excalibur, into a largely unexplored region of space, borrowing some of its premise from "Voyager" as well. The first four novels in the "New Frontier" series serve as an ersatz "pilot episode" for the series, and Peter David established a rich world full of new stories. ...

For those who miss the complexity, diplomacy, and politics of 1990s "Star Trek," "New Frontier" will definitely scratch that itch. David penned 23 "New Frontier" novels from 1997 through 2015, making for what might have been a full season of adventures on TV. I suppose media saturation and budget kept something like "New Frontier" from becoming a show, but in book form it will still satisfy most Trekkies. ..."

Read More:

https://www.slashfilm.com/2245176/best-star-trek-books-new-frontier-need-tv-adaptation/


r/trektalk 2d ago

Review Starfleet Academy is the best Star Trek series ever made. Yes, I mean that.

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I know exactly how popular this opinion is going to be here, but after watching the whole first season, I genuinely think Starfleet Academy is the best Star Trek series they have made.
Not “pretty good for modern Trek.” Not “better than I expected.”

The best.

And one of the biggest reasons is that it actually does something new with Star Trek instead of spending all of its time trying to remind me how much I liked Star Trek 30 years ago.

I love TNG. I love DS9. I love Voyager. But those shows already exist. I don’t need another show whose main purpose is giving me slightly different versions of Kirk, Picard, Data, Spock and the Enterprise.

Starfleet Academy finally moves Star Trek forward.

Setting it in the 32nd century was one of the smartest choices they could have made. For once, the writers have room to build instead of constantly worrying about whether something contradicts a line of dialogue from an episode made in 1991.

The Federation has been through a near-collapse, Starfleet is rebuilding, and the Academy isn’t just a school. It’s part of rebuilding the entire idea of the Federation.
That is an incredibly Star Trek premise.

In fact, I would argue that it gets closer to the basic point of Star Trek than a lot of the shows people here consider untouchable.
Star Trek has always been about the idea that people can become better. Starfleet Academy actually makes that the entire subject of the show.

Most Trek series introduce us to people who are already elite Starfleet officers. Picard is Picard from the moment we meet him. Sisko is already an experienced officer. Janeway is already a captain.

Academy asks a much more interesting question:

How do people become those people?

The cadets screw up. They’re immature. They argue. They fall in love. They’re competitive. Sometimes they’re selfish. Sometimes they’re annoying.

Of course they are.

They’re cadets

I’ve seen people complain that they don’t behave like experienced Starfleet officers, which might be the strangest criticism of this show. If Caleb walked into Starfleet Academy in episode one already behaving like Jean-Luc Picard, there wouldn’t be much point in making a show about him learning anything.

And that is why the character development works for me. Starfleet values aren’t just speeches delivered by people who already believe them. We get to watch young people who grew up in a damaged Federation figure out why those values are worth believing in.
That is much more interesting to me than another bridge full of perfect professionals demonstrating lessons they learned 20 years before the episode started.

I also like that these characters actually feel young.

Yes, they talk differently from Picard’s crew.

Good.

The 32nd century should not feel like everybody is doing an impression of a 1990s syndicated television character. Star Trek has always reflected the time in which it was made. TOS certainly did. TNG certainly did.

Pretending that older Star Trek somehow descended from heaven completely untouched by contemporary culture is pure nostalgia.

And I’m going to say something else that will probably go over wonderfully here:

Holly Hunter’s Nahla Ake is one of the best authority figures Star Trek has ever created.
She’s weird. She’s informal. She’s funny. She’s emotional. She doesn’t carry herself like Picard.

Again: good.

We already had Picard.

Hunter gives Ake a completely different kind of authority. She can be warm one minute and intimidating the next, and her relationship with the cadets feels much more like an actual teacher dealing with young people than a captain addressing interchangeable junior officers.

Paul Giamatti is also having an absolute blast, and when you put two actors at that level opposite each other, the show immediately has something most franchise television would kill for.

The show also does something modern Star Trek has struggled with: it uses old Star Trek without being completely dependent on it.
Bringing back the Doctor works because he has a reason to still exist in this time period.

The DS9 material works because it actually means something to the story. The connections to older Trek feel like history rather than the show repeatedly elbowing me in the ribs and yelling, “REMEMBER THIS?”

And when Academy really gets going, especially with episodes like “Come, Let’s Away,” it shows exactly why moving this far into the future was worthwhile. We get new history, new consequences, new cultures and a Federation whose survival isn’t guaranteed just because we already know what happens 100 years later.

That is something a prequel can never give you.

I’ll go even further: the much-mocked “teen drama” part is one of the reasons the show works.

Star Trek has done military drama. Political drama. War drama. Exploration. Comedy. Time travel. Spy stories. Westerns. Courtroom episodes. Gangsters. Musicals. Holodeck adventures.

But apparently young people dealing with friendships and relationships at Starfleet Academy is where some fans suddenly decide Star Trek has gone too far.

Really?

We can have Captain Picard turn into a child, Janeway and Paris become salamanders, Spock’s brain get stolen, the Enterprise crew play Robin Hood, Quark undergo a sex change for a Ferengi business scheme, and an entire episode of Voyager revolve around going faster than infinity.
But cadets flirting is the point where Star Trek loses its dignity?

Come on.

And yes, the show is diverse. Star Trek featuring people who don’t all look, think, love or behave exactly alike should be the least surprising development in the history of Star Trek.

If strange aliens, unconventional gender presentation, different sexualities and people challenging old social expectations bother somebody, I genuinely don’t know what franchise they thought they were watching.

To me, the best Star Trek isn’t the show that most perfectly imitates old Star Trek.
It’s the show that takes the basic idea of Star Trek — that different kinds of people can learn to understand each other and deliberately build something better — and finds a new way to tell that story.

That’s Starfleet Academy.

TNG showed us the Federation near its height.

DS9 tested whether its ideals could survive a war.

Voyager tested whether Starfleet values could survive without the Federation around to enforce them.

Starfleet Academy asks what happens when a battered Federation has to teach those values to a generation that never got to grow up taking them for granted.

I think that’s a fantastic idea for Star Trek.
And I think the fact that the characters are messy, young, emotional and sometimes irritating actually makes the idea stronger, not weaker.

So yes.

Starfleet Academy is the best Star Trek series ever made.

And before somebody tells me that I need to go watch TNG or DS9:

I have.

That’s why I’m saying it.


r/trektalk 2d ago

[SNW 4x6 Reviews] Larry Nemecek: "People are breathing a sigh of relief this week. But is it a reprieve or a tease? To me, it's just the one where Scotty grows up, hopefully, finally. I'm just trying to figure out where the hell Scotty was trying to get to with his 'slutstream.' Bill Wolkoff ..."

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LARRY NEMECEK:

"I mean, come on, let's just do our kudos this week. Writer Bill Wolkoff, he's a supervising producer since the premiere. He's was bumped up to co-executive producer then. This is his seventh own full or shared writing credit, including the double Hugo nominations in season two for both "Those Old Scientists" co-writing and for "Subspace Rhapsody - the Musical." So, you know, for a disaster movie entry, he loves the Irwin Allen ones. Poseidon Adventure was his first idea.

Now, the 24 clock again doesn't mean a lot to me except I just intellectually know it. That came later as they crafted the story. But basically, he wanted a Poseidon adventure. He wanted a tidal wave in space. And I'm he's been talking about this how he looked at first an NPR shortwave science podcast talking about the deep underground nutrino experiment. Dune that's and which talked about nutrino frontiers and his 11-year-old having read a book by Randall Monroe called "What If?" - which just throws out all kinds of crazy impossible scenarios.

One of them being about nutrino radiation and these harmless things to us in our solar system, what a lethal dose of them would look like. So he spins them together, comes up with this big and never-beforeseen anomaly, which is based on real science. Just because we don't know about it doesn't mean out in the universe it can't exist. With this combination of events, a slipstream wormhole, a neutron star collapses, creates a massive wormhole with all these dense neutrinos, right?

Far more dense and lethal to what our sun pelts us with. So wimpy, he says, "That's how you get that space tidal wave."

And then not only is crossing the first Warp Infinity threshold a first for us to this degree, a whole ship, not just one little runabout, right? One little shuttle. Thank you, Tom Paris. Bill said he's positing here, although it doesn't come through that this is really a first for all known Federation and Starfleet history, too. [...]

They had the AR walls ... what, the warp threshold? Okay. What is that? warp 10. I mean, this kept my brain fried for minutes. Are we really gonna go there? Are we really gonna Scotty says disintegration in 24 minutes just as the beta shift comes on? That's the irony here. The irony in this episode is that Chapel starts her countdown log to the weekendand it just happens to overlap the entire duration of their crisis. That's what the countdown clock meant to me. Was amazing.

But I was actually having a hard time trying to figure out the dynamics of the final crisis. I mean, are we talking the warp threshold threshold like going to infinity or imploding or yeah, turning into lizards or just the warp threshold, say going from sublight to warp one, cuz the engines are cold. I could see it being the former, but the stakes are far higher with the latter. Right?

So, on the side, Bill clarified it for me. He said, "I don't believe any starship in this time period has crossed that threshold before. It's never come up." Okay.

[..]

So, good on them for not mentioning a warp factor here. just talking about the warp threshold and having it be theoretical and having it just lead to Scotty's depression, but you know, as a format, this is TNG's disaster taken to a whole new level of visual, that AR wall. If only TNG had had the bucks and that AR wall to play with, right? Disaster mostly had to stay with interior scenes.

So, getting out the door here, Babs Olusanmokun. He still wins my award for the most damn intriguing character arc of the cast of the entire season. I mean, basically for me, going from 0 to 60 since the first pilot. And, you know, I've heard it said, "Oh, this is the one where Scotty falls in love with the Enterprise."

But to me, it's just the one where Scotty grows up, hopefully. finally."

Full video review:

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 406: "Off-Hour" | Dr. Trek's Second Opinion #84

https://youtu.be/7467RCw7qs4?si=ZkfYTNg_jmDHT5P0


r/trektalk 2d ago

Question If Doctor Who did historical episodes in Star Trek continuity, where would you like the TARDIS to go?

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Doctor Who is a British Sci-fi series that originally had the idea to mix historical episodes, ones where the Time And Relative Dimensions In Space or TARDIS would go back in Earth history, and science fiction episodes, where it’s more of a sci-fi setting.

People have been talking, some positive, some negative, about a Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover. Which crew, which Doctor, what would they do.

I had a thought of what would it be like for a Doctor Who series to be filled with historical episodes from Star Trek’s history. The Doctor meets Kahless the Unforgettable. The Doctor helps free Betazed from the Dominion during the Dominion War. The Doctor visits the Kumari as it circumnavigates Andor IV. The Doctor sees the Romulans leave Vulcan. The Doctor visits a young Kor as he tries to advance in the Klingon Forces. Things like that.

Is there something else historical in Star Trek you would like to see on screen? I am curious as to whether someone else would like something different.

Or it’s a bad idea and people just want Star Trek to take a break for some reason.


r/trektalk 2d ago

Discussion [Comics] Bleeding Cool: "IDW Publishing has stated that 'Star Trek: 60th Anniversary Special' [and other comics], which should have been out this coming week, will be delayed until the 9th of September. The lorry carrying them crashed in the forest. No one was hurt."

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