r/trektalk 12h ago

Character Discussion [Interview] The Untold Story of How Avery Brooks Became Sisko - Director DAVID LIVINGSTON shares the fascinating story of how he was partially responsible for Avery Brooks joining Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as Benjamin Sisko ... (The Transporter Room)

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THE TRANSPORTER ROOM:

"David Livingston shares the fascinating story of how he was partially responsible for Avery Brooks joining Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as Benjamin Sisko. After seeing Brooks deliver a magnetic, powerful performance in Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Livingston remembered him when the team was searching for the actor who would ultimately lead Deep Space Nine.

He also reveals why getting Avery Brooks into the role wasn’t as straightforward as it might seem—and why the producers and writers initially struggled to fully understand both Avery and Sisko. According to Livingston, the turning point came when the show began writing more directly to Brooks’ unique strengths and finally allowed Sisko’s visual identity to evolve.

From the debate over Avery Brooks’ bald head and goatee to the moment the creative team realized what they truly had in him, this behind-the-scenes story offers a revealing look at how one of Star Trek’s most iconic captains came into his own. Livingston describes that evolution as a seminal part of Deep Space Nine’s eventual success."

Video Clip:

https://youtu.be/MOa9dfLtYy4?si=kuKSnYoXAe0g3hCR

Full interview:

https://youtu.be/jg0lsFmzWyI?si=kAUsO13p4RqC8miN


r/trektalk 14h ago

Discussion [Interview] Brent Spiner Was the Lowest-Paid Actor on Star Trek: TNG | Dropping Names

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r/trektalk 16h ago

I'm writing a 25th Century Star Trek fan series. First two scripts are posted on AO3 if anyone would like to read them.

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The series is called "Star Trek: Outlaws". The stories are written in screenplay format, and so far I've completed about 30 scripts out of a planned ~60.

A few Trek fans have read all my scripts to date and enjoyed them, and I've started to share the first couple stories more widely on the fanfic website Archive of Our Own (AO3): the pilot (feature-length, slow burn, non-traditional act structure) and the following episode (with standard act structure). Here's a short summary:

Set in the early 25th Century, the series follows a brother and sister, Argo and Zia, who resolve to hijack a Federation starship to pursue a dangerous endeavor across the galaxy to save Argo's life, defying the legacy of their late father and the values of the Federation they were raised to hold dear. Joining them are a motley crew of former Starfleet officers and renegade militia (including a couple of familiar faces). As the crew traverse into unknown space, they'll be faced with ethical dilemmas while wrestling with their own consciences of how their mission began, as they uncover the secrets of a mysterious race lost to legend.

If anyone here would like to check them out, the link to the series on AO3 is below, and I'd love to get any feedback from fellow Trekkies, good or ill. I hope anyone doing so enjoys them.

https://archiveofourown.org/series/6481476 (formatted for desktop/laptop users, works best in landscape mode on phones).


r/trektalk 13h ago

An old person watching the 90s Trek

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Last night I tried watching one of the 90s Trek shows. Back in the 90s I was an adult and I didn't see all the seasons of all the Trek shows. Which means the old episode I watched was "new" to me. Anyway, I watched one episode of one of the three series and it felt like the target audience was for smart 14 year olds. Maybe it was just that particular episode or that I'm older or that modern (Battlestar, Expanse) sci-fi seems much darker and more sophisticated. Plus my taste in drama has certainly changed over the decades.

Setting aside any nostalgic and youthful memories, anyone else have a similar experience? I won't say which series because I don't want this to turn into a discussion about which was best.


r/trektalk 8h ago

Lore [SNW Highlight Clips] Star Trek on Instagram: "Exactly how many Klingon-occupied planets has M'Benga been on? Exactly "don't worry about it" and counting." | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (S4, E4): "A Case of Chiaroscuro"

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Source:

Star Trek on Instagram

Link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DcKKxvQBggS


r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [Rumors] Jamie Rixom: "One show that ended Star Trek under Kurtzman ... and no.. its not Starfleet Academy. It was really Section 31 that made the new Paramount bosses, when they took over, really made their mind up, and really made them look at Kurtzman." (Video-Clip)

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r/trektalk 9h ago

Analysis Screenrant: "It’s Understandable Why Dr. M’Benga Wants To Leave The USS Enterprise: Yes, it's all part of the job. However, that doesn't take away from the trauma the Enterprise's crew must reconcile when impossible things happen to them so frequently. Spock secretly also wants to leave ..." Spoiler

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Screenrant:

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-mbenga-leave-enterprise-harsh-reality/

By John Orquiola

"Since Star Trek: Strange New Worlds began, Captain Christopher Pike's crew (Anson Mount) was also forced to sing in a musical, were kidnapped by the Gorn, and had reality warped by Trelane (Rhys Darby).

For Dr. M'Benga, serving on the Enterprise saw him give up his young daughter, Rukiya (Sage Arrindell), who became part of a cosmic being in a nebula. Joseph murdered a Klingon Ambassador (Robert Wisdom) and covered it up, survived Klingon zombies, and was nearly bisected in his own sickbay. After everything M'Benga has endured aboard the Enterprise, and in his sordid past as a Starfleet assassin, he is justified in feeling that he's had enough of exploring strange new worlds.

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' puppet episode ended with the twist that the puppets were all Lieutenant Spock's (Ethan Peck) dream. This means that puppet T'Pring's assessment of the Starship Enterprise as a ship of "chaos" and "pandemonium" cime from Spock's subconscious. It reveals a harsh truth that, deep down, the Vulcan Science Officer wants to get off the Enterprise, at least for a while.

Spock's life aboard Captain Pike's Enterprise has been a series of emotional traumas. Switching bodies with T'Pring, being turned human, and then breaking up with T'Pring in the first two seasons of Strange New Worlds alone is enough grief to process. Since then, Spock has been dumped twice more, by Nurse Chapel and, recently, by Lieutenant La'an Noonien-Singh (Christina Chong). Yet Spock still must work with his exes every day. ...

Lieutenant Spock regularly risks his life for the Enterprise, including in Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 4, episode 6. "Off-Hour" saw Spock attempt an incredibly dangerous space walk to the Enterprise's ion pod while it was in the slipstream wormhole. Spock managed to survive the ion pod's ejection, and he was rescued by La'an, but returned with severe radiation poisoning, foreshadowing the Vulcan's death in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. ...

Star Trek canon says Mr. Spock won't leave the USS Enterprise, while Dr. M'Benga does get to exit by the end of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, although he returns in Star Trek: The Original Series. The Starship Enterprise is undeniably a prestigious and glamorous posting for a Starfleet officer, but it's also incredibly dangerous, a magnet for trauma, and death is a tragic reality in the final frontier."

Read more:

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-mbenga-leave-enterprise-harsh-reality/


r/trektalk 8h ago

Character Discussion [SNW 4x4 Reactions] Mollie and the Old Man: "Dr. M'Benga doesn't ever come across to me as a doctor. They should have made him head of security. I mean, yeah, he's bloodthirsty, but at least his skill set would have lined up better than being a doctor. He can say he loves healing people, but ..." Spoiler

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THE OLD MAN:

"He can say he loves healing people, but Nurse Chapel does all the work. She's the effective doctor on this ship. I don't know what M'Benga is. I guess murderer. I don't because when I was sitting there and that lady took that poison and she died over there and M'Benga was like, "Uh, she's dead." Are you going to go over there and look?

I would have expected him to want to go over there and look and for somebody to go, "No, no, you can't do that. They'll you got to let it happen." And him to say something like, "The heck with that. I'm going to treat this patient!" Because he didn't knowwhat happened to her, what that poison was. Maybe Enterprises technology would have been able to save her. He didn't know what that was, but he didn't seem to care that there was a patient there.

Well, a potential patient that was killing herself and he wasn't going to do a damn thing to help her, even if it risked the eye of the Klingons. Cuz I know there's going to be some defenders saying, "Well, you couldn't do that." He knew that. He was so experienced. He knew the Klingons were going to stop him and do bad things. There was no way to know that.

His instinct should have been to help that person, but Dr. M'Benga doesn't ever come across to me as a doctor. They should have made him head of security. I mean, yeah, he's bloodthirsty, but at least his skill set would have lined up better than being a doctor.

[...]

Maybe don't do Klingons. Maybe just make it two factions somewhere. Why do you need the Klingons?"

MOLLIE:

"So that they could have Dr. M'Benga go on this trip?

THE OLD MAN:

"I guess. Which, you know, at the ending of this episode, too. I guess they were making a meta commentary when M'Benga - not just in this episode, but like ever - Nurse Chapel's doing all the medicine, but he really cared about all those people he killed to save his patients."

MOLLIE:

"Well, apparently he loves being a healer, but he's got these mad skills when it comes to killing people. And what a shame it is ..."

Source:

'Mollie and the Old Man' on YouTube

The PILOT for SLIDERS Meets CASABLANCA—Star Trek: Strange New Worlds S04E04 Review

Link:

https://youtu.be/lxE8RvsMzLg?si=QrcgOw_IcHgiFUox&t=1683

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28:03 min


r/trektalk 6h ago

Discussion [Interview] New Star Trek Movie Writers Tease “Dark” Story About “Bad Apples” In Starfleet - John Francis Daley and Jonathan Goldstein's in-progress Trek film is a very big swing: "Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide" (Inverse)

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INVERSE:

"Speaking to Inverse about their new comedy/action film Mayday — starring Ryan Reynolds and Sir Kenneth Branagh — Daley and Goldstein took time to shed a little more light on what their Star Trek script will be like. [...]

“I would say it's really kind of a look at the institution of Starfleet and any institution as a whole that has existed for a long time and what that does,” Daley tells Inverse. “ I think the portrayal of Starfleet and the people that work within it have always been generally idealized versions of what the future could be. And while this [script] isn’t a cynical or nihilistic take on it, I think it does acknowledge that there are some bad apples in every institution that can have a strong voice and can really make an impact on that institution and everything it stands for.”

“Two movies we cite as comps for what we’re hoping to do are Training Day and Crimson Tide ,” Goldstein tells Inverse.

“It takes place almost in real time, and it just is a whole other look at what a Star Trek movie could be without betraying the fundamentals of what it should be,” Daley adds.

Fans of the excellent film Crimson Tide will probably remember that, interestingly, that film has more than one reference to the original Star Trek. [...]

The filmmakers also note that their hope with this film is to make something that lives well beyond the expectations and borders of existing fandom. “I mean, look, we don't want to rely on fandom,” Goldstein says. “We don't want to just hope that there's enough fans of the original [TOS] or The Next Generation or whatever who will turn out for this. We want to just make a great movie that lives in the world that people are familiar with — some people are familiar with — and that others will discover. And then, with good fortune, we launch a new franchise into existence.”

Ryan Britt (Inverse)

Link:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/exclusive-new-star-trek-movie-writers-tease-dark-story-john-francis-daley-and-jonathan-goldstein


r/trektalk 13h ago

CBR: "4 Star Trek Villains Who Were Actually Right: Picard’s Commodore Oh Did What She Thought Was Necessary - Seska Was Right About Janeway’s Decision to Destroy the Array - TNG’s Q Was Right to Put Humanity on Trial - Harry Mudd Was Right About Starfleet’s Role in the Klingon War"

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CBR:

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-villains-who-were-right-list/

By Amy Watkins

"Across its 13-series franchise, Star Trek has introduced some of the most memorable villains in sci-fi. From the cybernetic wrath of the Borg to the ruthless dictatorship of Gul Dukat, the Federation has faced no shortage of formidable foes, each challenging the principles and morals of the Enterprise heroes.

However, while Trek has had its fair share of indefensible Big Bads, many of its antagonists have been anything but black and white. Whether motivated by a desire for independence, a distrust of Starfleet, or a willingness to correct a flaw in the Federation’s policies, these villains had more validity than their actions would suggest. In fact, it could be argued that, in one way or another, they were actually right.

Star Trek: Picard’s Commodore Oh was a Zhat Vash double agent hell-bent on destroying all synthetic life in the galaxy. However, the reasoning behind her actions can be somewhat understood. Members of the Zhat Vash were subjected to the Admonition, a vision passed down through generations that warned of the destruction of all organic life at the hands of AI.

It’s hard to defend Oh's methods, but not so much her fear. Being one of the few to survive the Admonition, which causes a violent sensory overload to those who view it, Oh had every reason to believe that synthetic life posed an existential threat.

While she was wrong to manipulate Starfleet and mastermind the attack on Mars, there’s no denying that Oh had seen the consequences of inaction and was willing to do whatever it took to prevent them. ..."

Read more:

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-villains-who-were-right-list/


r/trektalk 1d ago

Slashfilm: "The Best Star Trek Books Ever Should Have Been Adapted Into A TV Series: The premise of "New Frontier" was so strong, and the "cast" so impressive, it could have easily made for an actual televised spinoff. Peter David established a rich world full of new stories."

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Slashfilm:

https://www.slashfilm.com/2245176/best-star-trek-books-new-frontier-need-tv-adaptation/

By Witney Seibold

"The legendary Marvel comic book author and widely celebrated "Star Trek" tie-in novelist Peter David invented an entirely new "Star Trek" ship, stocked it with its own raft of characters, and sent it on its own continuing mission, all to be experienced in a long-running series of books called "Star Trek: New Frontier."

The premise of "New Frontier" was so strong, and the "cast" so impressive, it could have easily made for an actual televised spinoff. It bore a lot of similarities to "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine," in that it was about the shaky reconstruction of a fallen world, but placed its central Starfleet vessel, the USS Excalibur, into a largely unexplored region of space, borrowing some of its premise from "Voyager" as well. The first four novels in the "New Frontier" series serve as an ersatz "pilot episode" for the series, and Peter David established a rich world full of new stories. ...

For those who miss the complexity, diplomacy, and politics of 1990s "Star Trek," "New Frontier" will definitely scratch that itch. David penned 23 "New Frontier" novels from 1997 through 2015, making for what might have been a full season of adventures on TV. I suppose media saturation and budget kept something like "New Frontier" from becoming a show, but in book form it will still satisfy most Trekkies. ..."

Read More:

https://www.slashfilm.com/2245176/best-star-trek-books-new-frontier-need-tv-adaptation/


r/trektalk 20h ago

Character Discussion Inverse: "How Star Trek's Most Kickass Doctor Keeps SNW Grounded: In talking about “A Case of Chiaroscuro” and the tone of Ep. 6, “Off Hour,” Babs Olusanmokun reveals the fact that, yes, he very much likes to go dark, or at the very least, explore the straightforward aspects of his character"

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Inverse:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/babs-olusanmokun-strange-new-worlds-star-trek-interview-canon

By Ryan Britt

Babs Olusanmokun is the badass the Final Frontier needs.

"As Strange New Worlds hits its midpoint in Season 4, Inverse caught up with the actor to reflect on the duality of M’Benga — a healer who is also the most deadly member of the crew, a secret weapon hiding in plain sight. ...

While SNW (and other Trek shows) have often featured episodes in which the characters play dress-up (see: multiple holodeck episodes from the TNG/DS9/VOY era for proof), what makes “A Case of Chiaroscuro” somewhat unique is that the anachronistic aesthetic isn’t for laughs; instead, the episode plays it straight. And it’s no surprise M’Benga is at the center of it all, having been on more undercover missions than Una and Uhura.

“For me, it was very easy to embrace that story and just to live that noir atmosphere,” Olusanmokun tells Inverse. “I’m truly trying to solve a problem and trying to stay safe. With Una and Uhura, I’m trying to just give tips, like: ‘Listen, we want to make it back alive. Here’s how to do that.’”

As SNW has previously established, M’Benga is as much of a warrior as he is a doctor, having taken out many, many Klingons in the military conflict that exists in the Discovery Season 1 era of Trek. Basically, when you need a doctor and some muscle on your away team, M’Benga is both. He’s also, in a sense, a therapist for people who need to figure out how to become badasses.

“It's not a terrible thing. It simply shows the breadth of his experience across Starfleet,” Olusanmokun says. “I think he’s an officer that’s dealt with a lot; his background of taking care of people goes across the whole spectrum. If you’re in a bed in sickbay, he’s got a way about him. But if someone needs to go further afield, he’s got an idea or two. He’s a Swiss Army knife, really.” ...

In the 2009 Star Trek film, Dr. McCoy (Karl Urban) famously said: “Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence,” but M’Benga is a character who actually allows the audience to feel the weight of that sentiment, without making a joke about it. In talking about “A Case of Chiaroscuro” and the tone of Episode 6, “Off Hour,” Olusanmokun reveals the fact that, yes, he very much likes to go dark, or at the very least, explore the straightforward aspects of his character.

“You know what? I love laughing, and I have a lot of laughter in my life, but I'm also deeply attracted to pieces where it's just a sober truth and a dramatic truth,” Olusanmokun says. “I like the exploration of that and the sincerity of those pieces. I don't need a wise crack in the middle of the heaviness of reality.” ...

For Olusanmokun, it’s all more signs of the dimensionality of M’Benga, the notion that this is a realistic character, existing in a fantastic and sometimes hyperbolic world.

“It’s almost like he’s grieving a loss before it happens,” Olusanmokun says. “I try to color that in there. There is a kind of transitional doubt and uncertainty. He’s wondering, ‘Am I really in the place I need to be? Maybe I’m a little too familiar with these people?’” ..."

Read more:

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/babs-olusanmokun-strange-new-worlds-star-trek-interview-canon


r/trektalk 1d ago

Theory Redshirts: "Star Trek fan theory: Ethan Peck will play Sybok in SNW S4 (and it sounds logical)" - "Like the soap operas of old, the long lost sibling or cousin shows up and are played by the series regular actor who has been on the show for years. It still falls under the category of stunt casting"

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Analysis [Interview] Jess Bush On The Message Of Star Trek: SNW Season 4's "Off-Hour": "If you lose faith, your friends will never lose faith in you. They know what you're capable of, and the strength you get from the people who love you and know you is unmatchable in life." (ScreenRant)

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [Interview] SNW writer Bill Wolkoff explains his recipe for a disaster...episode! Where he got the idea for his cosmic tidal wave, some lost moments, and how he got us to believe a legacy character might die ... | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | Open Pike Night

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r/trektalk 1d ago

Lore Movieweb: "How Strange New Worlds' "Off-Hour" Connects To 'Star Trek: Voyager's "Threshold": Both episodes share an underlying premise, despite being separated by 30 years. However, they're far from similar when it comes to how they approach the elusive speed of Warp 10." Spoiler

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Movieweb:

"30 Years Later, Star Trek Finally Fixes a Controversial 'Voyager' Twist"

By Daniel Bibby

"There's been no official effort from the franchise to scrub the weird salamander twist from the established lore. "Off-Hour" is the first time it's ever been properly attempted. Rather than the threat of everyone aboard evolving into some potential future blueprint of their species, the Enterprise is said to simply disintegrate if it crosses the Warp barrier. It's a far more straightforward and infinitely less trippy incentive to stay firmly below Warp 10. Thankfully, Pike and company manage to break free from the wormhole just before breaking the Warp barrier, keeping everyone alive.

I think it's safe to say that this is certainly the intention of "Off-Hour," but the episode stops short of fully undoing that divisive Voyager reveal from 30 years ago. Because the Enterprise breaks free of the wormhole before crossing the Warp barrier, we never actually get to find out if the ship would have disintegrated. It's probably just as likely that the Federation's flagship would have occupied everywhere at once like Paris did in "Threshold," followed by its crew eventually starting to physically transform over time.

Personally, I think "Off-Hour" is suggesting that its Warp 10 near miss is all that stood in the way of everyone going full salamander down the line. In other words, what happened to Lt. Paris is probably still part of the canon, but the crew of the Enterprise narrowly avoided experiencing the same thing by breaking out of the wormhole just in time. On the other hand, maybe Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is just offering up an alternative Warp 10 possibility to oppose "Threshold," leaving each viewer to decide whether "Off-Hour" is an actual Voyager retcon or not."

Read more:

https://movieweb.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-threshold-retcon/


r/trektalk 1d ago

Character Discussion Inside ‘Star Trek: SNW’s ‘Hangover’ Episode - Dave Foley on Dendru: "He’s just a happy facilitator of whatever people need. A lot of people who’ve been traumatized in war are now benefiting from psychedelic therapy. I think he believes that Ortegas can jumpstart a happier way to live"

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TVInsider:

https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/

By Meredith Jacobs

"Dave Foley guest stars as the one who runs the resort, and as a “huge fan of all things Star Trek, going back to growing up on The Original Series,” he was thrilled when he was offered the part.

“When I first got there, I was touring the sets and FaceTiming my daughter, and she said, ‘Dad, I’ve never seen you this happy,'” he shares.

He enjoyed that his character was “fun” and “silly,” adding, “Even if they aren’t quite sure what they need, he’s there to make sure they get it. He’s just a happy facilitator of whatever people need.”

As Dendru tells Ortegas, he used to be like her and knows how it feels to always be looking for something to be angry about.

“Psychedelic therapy can be very curative. A lot of people who’ve been traumatized in war are now benefiting from psychedelic therapy. So, I think Dendru believes that she can jumpstart a happier way to live,” says Foley.

As for any improv he did for the episode, “little bits here and there, a little ad-libbing. I know when we were going over the details of the contract, the fine print and the micro print, that was kind of a bit ad-libbed,” he reveals."

Read more:

https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/TVInsider:https://www.tvinsider.com/1279678/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-hangover-episode-explained/


r/trektalk 1d ago

Review [SNW 4x6 Review] DEN OF GEEK: "It works because of the characters at its center. Babs Olusanmokun &Jess Bush have never been better. While SNW has become known for its big narrative swings and boundary-pushing framings, sometimes it’s nice to be reminded they aren’t what makes this show so special" Spoiler

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DEN OF GEEK:

"No, what we’re interested in is these people, who come together in a variety of collaborative, supportive, sacrificial, and occasionally physics-defying ways when they need it most. [...] And it’s the quiet moments — M’Benga finishing his lame joke, Chapel requesting to be officially assigned to the Enterprise, Pelia and Scotty pressing their palms in tandem to the walls of the ship — that stay with us, long after the flashy wormholes are gone. [...]

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-4-episode-6-review-off-hour

Not everything about this episode is perfect. M’Benga’s horrific injury has a whiff of Grey’s Anatomy about it, as a magnetic lab table essentially holds the two halves of his severed torso together, keeps his major organs in place, and prevents him from bleeding out. (Is this possible? Maybe, but I certainly didn’t want to Google it.) The ultimate fix for the ship’s seemingly certain doom is pretty ridiculous—theoretical ghost particles known as “strong force neutrinos” are not only in the wormhole all around them, they can somehow heal M’Benga and provide the Enterprise with the power it so desperately needs.

If this sounds completely made up, that’s because it generally is. “You’re saying that strong force neutrinos can heal M’Benga and make fuel?” Pike asks incredulously at one point, speaking for us all. “Almost sounds too good to be true, I know,” Scotty says, and at least this iteration of Star Trek is sly enough to openly lampshade its nonsensical technobabble rather than expecting any of us to really follow it. It knows that’s not what we’re really here for, anyway.

[...]

The relationship between M’Benga and Chapel is one of Strange New Worlds’ most interesting—but not in the way most of us probably expected. The two are not only colleagues, but they’re also genuine friends, trauma-bonded war veterans who served together and know each other better than almost anyone else on the ship. (The only relationship that likely rivals theirs in terms of depth and longevity is Pike and Una’s.) Of course she’s going to defy all logic, good sense, and a direct order from a superior officer to try to save him, or die alongside him in the process.

Babs Olusanmokun and Jess Bush have never been better, often conveying their shared fear and determination to be brave for one another through little more than subtle facial expressions.

Comparatively speaking, we aren’t nearly as familiar with Scotty and Pelia’s relationship. They have a shared history and a clear mentor-student dynamic, but their bond is as much about what they do as who they are. They love starships, the Enterprise in particular, and sometimes that love requires as much of a leap of faith as any of the choices being made by Chapel and M’Benga in sick bay. Strange New Worlds gets a lot of mileage out of Carol Kane being funny; this week it finally remembers to let her be heartfelt, and the idea that Scotty’s reputation as a miracle worker technically begins with Pelia reminding him to see the immense possibility in their relationships with these machines is, well. It’s genuinely lovely. [...]

Given how many Strange New Worlds characters must survive this episode simply because The Original Series exists, it’s remarkable how genuinely tense almost everything about this hour feels. Sure, we all know that M’Benga is going to somehow make it through after being literally cut in half by a lab table. But there’s more than one moment when it seems almost certain that Strange New Worlds is going to throw canon out the window.

It’s a testament to the strong writing of this particular installment that things we know to be impossible, narratively speaking, feel more than a little bit likely. [...]"

Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars

Lacy Baugher (Den of Geek)

Full review:

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-4-episode-6-review-off-hour


r/trektalk 1d ago

Debate Trek Politics: "Debating STAR TREK’S Most DIVISIVE Movie - Mary Trump and Bob Cesca break down Star Trek: The Motion Picture, from Kirk’s command drama and endless padding to Spock, the Enterprise refit, and its strangest choices."

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r/trektalk 2d ago

Discussion Slashfilm: "In 1996, Brannon Braga felt that Star Trek: Voyager should have been weird and eerie like The X-Files: "The Delta Quadrant should be the strangest place we've ver seen. [...] Instead, the aliens look a little too familiar, and we're not delivering enough high-concept science fiction"

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Slashfilm:

https://www.slashfilm.com/2196177/star-trek-voyager-showrunner-thought-failed-goal-franchise-x-files/

By Witney Seibold

"As for "Voyager" taking place in "a weird part of space," it turns out it isn't so weird. Indeed, the Voyager frequently runs into the same kinds of aliens that could easily appear on "Star Trek: The Next Generation." Showrunner Brannon Braga, in particular, felt that "Voyager" should have been much more eerie and strange, as he explained in a 1996 issue of Sci-Fi Universe Magazine. Essentially, he thought "Voyager" should have been more like the "Star Trek" version of "The X-Files" but came up short.

As Brannon Braga explained to Sci-Fi Universe Magazine:

"I think that 'Voyager' should be the 'X-Files' of 'Star Trek.' The Delta Quadrant should be the strangest place we've ver seen. [...] Instead, the aliens look a little too familiar, and we're not delivering enough high-concept science fiction. Don't get me wrong; we've had many excellent episodes, but I want to do more brain-twisting, challenging stories."

Recall that this was early in the show's run. "Star Trek: Voyager" debuted in January 1995 and had a truncated first season of only 16 episodes (as opposed to the then typical 26). So, when Braga gave that interview, the series was only about two-thirds of its way through its second season (one of the best seasons of "Voyager" overall).

Likewise, the Sci-Fi Universe Magazine interviewer pointed out that the show was still young and had time to improve. Braga, however, noted that while "Voyager" was a new series, the "Star Trek" franchise had already been around for 30 years by then. He added that he and the show's other writers "want to make sure we keep telling the best science fiction stories we can. That's the 'Star Trek' tradition, and that's what 'Star Trek' fans have come to expect." He added that a property with over 300 TV episodes under its belt should be subjected to more artistic scrutiny, and he wanted to use that to "keep it fresh."

He wasn't wrong. If "Voyager" had been the first "Star Trek" series ever, Braga would have had a lot more leeway to explore more traditional stories. But because it was the latest show in a decades-old franchise, he needed to step up his game and get weirder with it. ..."

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r/trektalk 2d ago

Discussion I hate to admit it, but I ended up agreeing with this essay on its main point about the failure of Voyager to innovate the Star Trek formula.

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r/trektalk 2d ago

Discussion [Comics] Bleeding Cool: "IDW Publishing has stated that 'Star Trek: 60th Anniversary Special' [and other comics], which should have been out this coming week, will be delayed until the 9th of September. The lorry carrying them crashed in the forest. No one was hurt."

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r/trektalk 3d ago

Star Trek is becoming the packaging instead of the story

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Star Trek is becoming the packaging instead of the story

Strange New Worlds was my last real hope for modern Star Trek.

Early on, it felt like a return to what made the franchise work: competent officers, episodic storytelling, scientific problems, moral dilemmas, strange worlds, and a Starfleet that actually behaved like a professional organization from the future.

Lately, though, it feels increasingly as if the writers start with a gimmick, an emotional theme, or a genre exercise and only afterwards ask how they can wrap Star Trek around it.

The problem is not that characters have trauma, fear, grief, or emotional problems. Of course people in the 23rd century would still suffer. Space is dangerous.

The problem is how often modern Trek now builds character episodes around the exact same structure:

A character has an issue, refuses to talk about it, a sci-fi plot device amplifies it, they are forced to confront it, they finally open up, and the episode ends with emotional catharsis.

Older Trek had plenty of character episodes, but they usually worked differently. Tapestry does not have Picard explain his personality in therapy-speak. It shows us the reckless young man he used to be.

The Inner Light does not tell us what family and loss mean to Picard; it lets him live an entire lifetime. Duet develops Kira through a moral confrontation, not through a device designed to make her discuss her feelings.

Old Trek often asked: What will this person do in an extraordinary situation?

Modern Trek too often asks: How do we force this person to finally talk about their emotional problem?

That is a very different kind of storytelling.

There is another issue I find even more frustrating: the future no longer feels socially futuristic.

Star Trek was never just about better technology. Its people were supposed to come from a society that had also matured. They were not perfect, but they were usually more professional, more disciplined, and better at handling conflict than people today.

Now we have warp drive, advanced medicine and interstellar diplomacy, but many characters behave as if they work in a 2026 office drama.

A good example is the Scotty/Ortegas conflict. If Scotty modifies a pilot’s interface because he dislikes the way she flies, that is not a cute workplace prank. He is altering a safety-critical system.

If Ortegas covers up or ignores safety warnings because they annoy her, that should be a disciplinary matter.

And if Ortegas can actually fly the Enterprise outside safe parameters badly enough to damage propulsion, then the interesting question is not whether she and Scotty get along.

The interesting question is: Why can she do that at all?

Where are the limits, interlocks, automated protections, and override procedures?

That could have been an excellent Trek story about human control versus automation. Instead, it becomes interpersonal bickering.

The puppet episode pushes this even further. Spock suddenly has to run multiple departments by himself because most of the crew cannot use their consoles.

Are we seriously supposed to believe that a starship in the 23rd century has no meaningful automated emergency mode?

Modern spacecraft are already built around redundancy, fault tolerance and automation. The Enterprise should easily be able to maintain course, manage life support, monitor propulsion, avoid collisions, scan for threats and alert Spock when actual decisions are needed.

Instead, the ship suddenly becomes less capable than modern technology because the script needs Spock to become overwhelmed.

Why? So he can learn that he should not try to do everything alone.

Again, the technology is bent until it produces the desired emotional lesson.

The same episode also contains a more basic logic problem. Scotty wants to break a transporter record by beaming to another ship roughly 29,000 km away. Shortly afterwards, we are told that no ship is within two days of the Enterprise.

Both things cannot sensibly be true.

The script needs a nearby ship for one scene, then complete isolation for the next, so the nearby ship simply disappears from the logic of the story.

And then, at the end, we get the ultimate escape hatch: it was all a dream.

Dream stories can work. Buffy did it brilliantly with Restless, because the episode operates on dream logic from the beginning. Space, time, dialogue and perspective are deliberately surreal.

The SNW episode, however, is mostly presented like objective reality and only later declares itself a dream. We see scenes involving people who are not with the dreamer, conversations the dreamer could not know about, and events continuing while the supposed dreamer is unconscious.

At that point, “it was a dream” does not feel like the concept of the story. It feels like a reset button.

And this connects to the bigger problem.

It increasingly feels as if the writers’ room asks:

“Do we want a musical episode?”

“Sure.”

“Puppets?”

“Why not?”

“Horror?”

“Romcom?”

“Whatever.”

The issue is not experimentation. Classic Trek experimented constantly. TOS could be completely ridiculous. DS9, TNG and Voyager all played with genre.

The difference is that the world usually remained coherent.

Now it sometimes feels as if the gimmick comes first and Star Trek comes second.

You can almost imagine a new intern walking into the writers’ room with coffee.

“What do you think about Star Trek?”

“Not really my thing. I love the Muppets, though.”

“Perfect. Let’s do a Muppets episode.”

That is exaggerated, obviously, but it describes the feeling surprisingly well.

What makes this especially ironic is that Lower Decks, the animated comedy that was supposed to be the silly one, often understands Star Trek better than the live-action shows.

It makes fun of Trek constantly, but the jokes come from inside the universe. Starfleet remains Starfleet. Boimler becomes a better officer. Mariner has serious emotional problems, but the entire universe does not have to stop functioning so she can process them.

The SNW/Lower Decks crossover worked for exactly that reason. Boimler and Mariner were chaotic, but Pike remained Pike, Spock remained Spock, and the Enterprise still felt like the Enterprise.

The comedy did not require the universe to become stupid.

There is also the basic prequel problem.

We already know that Spock, Kirk, Scotty, Uhura and Pike survive long enough to reach the stories we already know. So when an episode spends several minutes pretending that Spock might die, there is very little real tension.

This is where Better Call Saul is such a useful comparison.

We already know Jimmy McGill becomes Saul Goodman. The suspense is not whether it happens. The suspense is how it happens.

Which decisions push him further? Which lines does he cross? What does he lose on the way?

That is how Strange New Worlds should use its legacy characters.

The question should not be “Will Spock survive?”

It should be “How does this Spock become the Spock we know?”

Pike is even more interesting because he knows his own future. What does that knowledge do to his judgement? Does it make him more reckless because he believes he knows when his fate will catch up with him? What does free will mean when you have already seen part of your future?

Those are Star Trek questions.

Fake death scares are not.

And unfortunately, Star Trek is not the only franchise suffering from this problem. Doctor Who increasingly feels similar: emotional beats and genre concepts sometimes seem to come before the actual science-fiction idea.

Star Wars has its own version of franchise exhaustion, where every character and every timeline gap can become another piece of content.

But Andor proves that this is not inevitable.

Andor is very modern television and very different from classic Star Wars, but it understands exactly why its story belongs in that universe. It asks how authoritarianism works in everyday life, how resistance forms, what rebellion costs, and what compromises people make along the way.

The story grows out of the world.

That is the key difference.

Strange New Worlds had already shown that modern classic Trek could work. It did not need to imitate TNG. It just needed to preserve the core idea: competent people from a more advanced society facing scientific, ethical and cultural problems that do not have easy answers.

They can be flawed. They can be traumatized. They can fall in love, argue, fail, and occasionally even turn into puppets.

But the universe has to take itself seriously.

Starfleet has to behave like Starfleet. The Enterprise has to behave like a 23rd-century starship. And the story should exist because somebody has something interesting to say about this future, not because somebody wanted to try a random genre gimmick.

The question I increasingly find myself asking is simple:

If you remove Pike, Spock, the Enterprise, the uniforms and the Star Trek logo, is there anything left that specifically needed to be Star Trek?

More and more often, I am not sure there is.

And that is what worries me most.

Not that Star Trek is changing.

That it increasingly seems to have forgotten what made it Star Trek in the first place.


r/trektalk 1d ago

Discussion [SNW 4x7 Preview] Star Trek on Instagram: "Flipping through these first images from the next episode of Strange New Worlds and wondering: what could all these dramatic stares be about...?" | The Soap Opera Episode: "Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass"

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r/trektalk 2d ago

SG1 "200" Predicted Every Gimmick in Strange New Worlds

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This made me chucked a little. To be fair the last episode is the only one so far I liked from the new season because it felt like space problem trying to be solved using experience and and expertise

Never watched SG1 so seeing the parallels was funny