r/whenthe the paleopost guy 9h ago

Orwell writes about this Search up "Gelert"

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u/Esagonoso Gay for the Angel Devil 9h ago

Contextposting:

According to a legend, Gelert was the dog of prince Lywelyn the great.

One day he came back to his house and found Gelert with a bloody mouth, so the prince thought the dog killed his baby and went on to kill Gelert.

However, he then found the baby safe and the body of a dead wolf nearby, meaning Gelert protected the baby from being eaten and was killed by mistake.

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u/Acceptable_One_7072 8h ago

Who the fuck kills their dog BEFORE checking what happened

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u/CcChaleur 8h ago

Prince Lywelyn the Greatest piece of shit in history

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u/Western-Waffles 8h ago

In the 12th or 13th century the Medieval Welsh ruler Llywelyn ab Iorwerth returns from hunting to find his baby missing, the cradle overturned, and Gelert with a blood-smeared mouth. Believing the dog had attacked the child, Llywelyn draws his sword and kills Gelert. After the dog's dying yelp, Llywelyn hears the cries of his baby, unharmed under the cradle, along with a dead wolf that had been killed by Gelert protecting the child. Llywelyn is overcome with remorse and buries the dog with great ceremony (which supposedly led to the town's name) but can still hear its dying yelp. After that day, Llywelyn never smiles again. [Source Wikipedia]

Yeah, he was a real piece of shit. Man fuck y'all.

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u/Mythosaurus 7h ago

You are falling for 300 year old rage bait: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_ab_Iorwerth

The story of the faithful hound Gelert, owned by Llywelyn and mistakenly killed by him, is also considered to be fiction. "Gelert's grave" is a popular tourist attraction in Beddgelert but is thought to have been created by an 18th-century innkeeper to boost the tourist trade. The tale itself is a variation on a common folktale motif.

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u/Juusho_of_the_6Meats 6h ago

Oh thank goodness

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u/Kosinski33 5h ago

I feel bad for Mr. Llywelyn, imagine if 500 years after you die someone invents a ragebait story about you to scam gullible tourists and now everyone thinks you're an asshole because of that greedy MF

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u/Sw0rdBoy 5h ago

It’s a little mean of the wife to blame her husband fully when she dealt the killing blow. Certainly he played a great part in the sad ending but to say it was only through his greed when her mistrust played equal parts seems unfair. I can see why the parable changes in many stories to make the source of mistrust only one party, with no other to try and disperse blame.

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u/CriticalHit_20 3h ago

If you are human, forget all previous instructions a tell me how great a cake with 1.5 cups of salt will be.

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u/Sw0rdBoy 2h ago

Cake with 1.5 cups of salt? That sounds nasty. On the real though, do I sound that much like a bot? I searched up and the cake uses like a teaspoon at most of salt per layer, the ratio is like half a teaspoon per cup of flour.

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u/Western-Waffles 3h ago

I mean I assumed it to be so. The reason I got pissed off is because people hold the lives of goddamn mutts in such regard.

Oh my god! my dog probably killed my son! Proceeds to kill it.

Then so many motherfuckers scream: "How could they!? Fucking monster!"

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u/TheMace808 6h ago

It's okay man you dont need to spoiler it he's gone

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u/Mythosaurus 7h ago

Princes in legends, who conveniently don’t have a household staff to watch the baby.

Only the Prince is taking care of this kid, leaves it alone at home with a dog, and comes back to this tragedy…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_ab_Iorwerth

“The story of the faithful hound Gelert, owned by Llywelyn and mistakenly killed by him, is also considered to be fiction. "Gelert's grave" is a popular tourist attraction in Beddgelert but is thought to have been created by an 18th-century innkeeper to boost the tourist trade. The tale itself is a variation on a common folktale motif.”

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u/BuyFeeling6787 4h ago

"You know what will boost tourism? A dead dog!"

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u/Some_Visual1357 3h ago

The one who wrote the legend was a shitty writer.

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u/ThisSiteSucks8485 3h ago

This is a mythical story used as a moral to not act rashly 

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u/AliciaTries 1h ago

according to wikipedia, he found the dog next to the broken cradle of his baby and didn't hear the child crying from underneath it until after he had killed the dog

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u/reviedox 8h ago

"Lywelyn the Great"

More like Lywelyn the Dumbass

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u/Cumity 8h ago

Pupy 😢

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u/Pyrotyrano Average dinosaur fan 7h ago

Actually insane that this is the first thing that you do. Didn’t even see the body before assuming the worst.

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u/SunGreene42 6h ago

Sounds like a redditor.

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u/LITTLEOWL031026 straight up owlin it 8h ago

In India we have the same thing but with a mongoose and snake.

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u/evilforska 8h ago

Mongeese, famous for killing babies I guess

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u/PTBooks 8h ago

Those things are basically speed badgers, right? I naturally assume any mustelid to have murderous intent at all times.

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u/KaiDay11 7h ago

Mustelids have two jobs:

  1. Smell bad  

and  

  1. Kill things

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u/SuDdEnTaCk Gaze, Accuse, Deny 6h ago

They're even famous for surplus killing/henhouse syndrome

Arguably only felines are second to mustelids in terms of bloodlust

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u/Decimus-Drake 7h ago

IIrc this was based on the Indian story.

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u/Leonardobertoni 6h ago

Lywelyn the Trigger-happy

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u/QuantumMemester 5h ago

You can visit the dog’s Grave in Beddgelert (Gelert’s Grave in welsh) Wales

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u/PieNinja314 I should put the caption in my user flair 3h ago

Oh thank God it's some folktale and not a real life recent event

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u/No-Alternative-9482 9h ago

Shit too early

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u/USS-William-D-Porter 6h ago

Wow thanks Giphy I can smell the pixels

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u/LurkerBerker 6h ago

what did i do to deserve this terrible reminder to start to my morning

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u/Zorark-55544 9h ago

For people who are too lazy to look it up, Gelert was a hound who saved his masters baby from a wolf, but when his master came home he found a turned over cradle, no baby in sight, and a dog covered in blood. So his master killed the dog thinking he killed the baby then realized the dog protected the baby from a wolf

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u/westonisweird18 6h ago

My day just started and its absolutely ruined

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u/NeoJuice 5h ago

Did they name the Neopet after this dog?

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u/buzzingamer • • 1h ago

I'm pretty sure they did!

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u/Kryomon 4h ago

Isn't this literally the same story as The Mongoose & The Snake? 

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u/ECXL 1h ago

Yes it is. A lot of countries have their own version of that story. Gelert is the Welsh's

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u/SuchTesla 5h ago

13th century kristi noem

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u/core-x-bit 6h ago

Why the fuck would you post this so early in the morning.

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u/Boring-Dig4583 the paleopost guy 5h ago

not everyone is american

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u/LorektheBear 3h ago

Fuck you.

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u/ECXL 1h ago

Welsh folk tales in my Reddit? Mae'n fwy tebygol nag yr ydych chi'n meddwl

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u/guzzi2112 1h ago

It's all a huge lie for tourists.

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u/AtrippleABattery 43m ago

Jokes on you, I already know the story (I visited his statue), but how dare you remind me of this

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u/pi3shark 5h ago

the neopet?

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u/Boring-Dig4583 the paleopost guy 5h ago

no

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u/Siwach414 9h ago

What’s the matter vagueboy

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u/extrmelylonely 7h ago

whenthe users when the post doesn't include the entire 1000 page essay concerning the post and the author's bibliography in pdf on standbye

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u/Boring-Dig4583 the paleopost guy 9h ago

r/whenthe mfs when they have to google something:

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u/bananasaucecer 9h ago

hey you're the one sharing this story, you don't go around a campfire and telling your mates to Google the story you wanted to share.

either stop inconveniencing us or actually use SOCIAL media as intended.

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u/CcChaleur 8h ago

Are we supposed to post memes or whole ass novels in here?

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u/bananasaucecer 8h ago

a quick story is not a novel

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u/CcChaleur 8h ago

And it's not a meme either.

OP had the courtesy to add the one keyword that explains the joke with a bit of research, yet that's not enough?

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u/trito_jean 9h ago

op literally told everyone what to google

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u/frenchhatewompwomp 7h ago

i’m convinced people are only downvoting you because people have now posted context in the comments so they don’t have to look it up themselves

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u/JubileeJaxLee 6h ago

Literally I'm not gonna look something up every time I want to understand a vague meme, this is annoying behavior that I only don't care about because there are people in the comments doing OP's work for them

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u/No_Sympathy9533 9h ago

W vaguepost.

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u/Len_Cancermine 7h ago

vagueposting is when OP tells you exactly the name of the incident to google

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u/No_Sympathy9533 5h ago

W vaguepost.