r/Destiny 4h ago

Effort Post Feminism and International Organizations Often Mask Men's Issues

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The Global Gender Gap Index is one of the largest international indices which measures gender-related issues. It uses these four subindices—

  • Economic Participation and Opportunity
  • Educational Attainment
  • Health and Survival
  • Political Empowerment

In Gender-specific Call of Duty: A Note on the Neglect
of Conscription in Gender Equality Indices, Heikkilä and Laukkanen bring up a salient but oft-neglected point—male-only conscription (and I am going to argue by extension male issues) are not addressed whatsoever by the Global Gender Gap Index (GGGI), the Gender Development Index (GDI), nor any other prominent international gender-gap index. 

By neglecting gender-specific conscription, current indices are incomplete and 1) signal that gender-specific conscription is not considered to be an important gender equality issue and 2) suggest that reforms in gender-specific conscription do not affect measured gender equality. 

This is highly problematic, as it masks gender inequality by giving states such as Finland, Switzerland, Estonia, and Singapore far higher rankings than they deserve. Prima facie, if you run an index which purports to measure gender equality, you should obviously consider male-only conscription—a harsh, gender-based discriminatory law which can be read as a gender-based tax upon young men.

But these international bodies aren’t merely indifferent, their indifference is downright harmful to men because they are masking unfair, sexist and patriarchal gender norms under the guise of supposed prima facie gender equality. 

Achieving gender equality and empowering all women and girls is not just the right thing to do, it’s essential for sustainable development. Goal 5 focuses on closing the gender gap and ensuring equal opportunities for all.

In Goal 5 (‘Gender Equality’) of their Sustainable Development Goals, the UN does not mention a single male-centric issue ANYWHERE. 

If you are a girl, you can stay in school, help empower your female classmates to do the same and fight for your right to access sexual and reproductive health services. 

If you are a woman, you can address unconscious biases and implicit associations that form an unintended and often an invisible barrier to equal opportunity.

If you are a man or a boy, you can work alongside women and girls to achieve gender equality and embrace healthy, respectful relationships.

Surely, I can’t be the only one who finds this downright crazy and borderline misandrist. Instead of bringing up any male-centric issue, they imply that men and boys should instead focus and prioritize women, rather than do anything about the issues themselves might encounter throughout life. It seems very female-biased.

To be clear, I am not arguing that this is necessarily wrong, or that men should not do this. Rather, I’m saying it’s a HIGHLY dismissive statement on behalf of the UN.

So, what are some things which I would want these international bodies, and more people in general to address?

  1. Address male-only conscription. The idea that if you are in Singapore (two-year conscription) or South Korea (eighteen month-long conscription) you must give up more than a YEAR of your life for the SAME rights and privileges on paper as anyone else is asinine (alongside the state stripping away your hypothetical right to be a civilian based on immutable characteristics), and utterly incompatible with liberal ideals. If conscription is to be conceptualized as a civic duty, it must be SHARED throughout the citizenry. I think this must be weighed heavily, just as much as a law which prescribed a female-only tax or women themselves giving up years to serve in the army. Just as such a tax would be heavily weighed by the GGGI, I argue conscription also ought to be.
  2. Disproportionate punishment. In Singapore, only men can be caned. A seventeen-year-old boy may be caned for drug trafficking; a twenty-five year-old woman cannot. Women are categorically exempt from caning. Why? If you get squeamish at the thought of caning women, perhaps you should re-consider why you are okay with caning men and boys.
  3. Public health. Women are biologically predisposed to live longer than males and do so in every single country on Earth. Recall our four GGGI metrics—the ‘Health and Survival’ metric is measured so that females are expected to live five years longer than males. So, if country X has women living ONLY three years more, then they lose points. However, if country X has women living TEN years longer than males, they don’t lose anything, because of the 1.06 female-to-male life expectancy cap. This is indefensible; these global gender gap indices should also measure public health problems when they are male-centric—for example, the huge rates of alcoholism in Eastern Europe lead many men to an early grave. This should be treated as a public health crisis disproportionately affecting men. Instead, it isn’t accounted for, and we rarely hear about it.

Another problem is that this is largely intentional. See from the WEF, the creators of the GGGI:

The third distinguishing feature of the Global Gender Gap Index is that it ranks countries according to their proximity to gender equality rather than to women’s empowerment. Our aim is to focus on whether the gap between women and men in the chosen indicators has declined, rather than whether women are winning the so-called “battle of the sexes”. Hence, the index rewards countries that reach the point where outcomes for women equal those for men, but it neither rewards nor penalizes cases in which women are outperforming men in particular indicators in some countries. Thus, a country that has higher enrolment for girls rather than boys in secondary school will score equal to a country where boys’ and girls’ enrolment is the same.

This is a confused account of gender equality. Gender equality should measure the disparity between the sexes, but instead the WEF defines gender equality as female parity relative to men. Why should a country which has higher enrollment for secondary schooling for girls score perfectly, whereas one which has a higher male enrollment loses points? A female advantage is never recorded as a con, but a male advantage is seen as detrimental. Why?

If you want to do this, fine. But call yourself the Female Parity/Empowerment Index, not the Global Gender Gap Index. By saying otherwise, you are implicitly masking structural and institutional harms towards men, which already do not get nearly as much international attention.

It is also interesting how when women uphold patriarchy, it is internalized misogyny, but when men do the same, feminists argue it’s toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is a real thing, as is internalized misogyny, but why not go with internalized misandry or toxic feminity instead? This seems to be another continuation of feminist critique often being highly critical of male-coded traits while simultaneously shy of giving women any responsibility or agency for upholding patriarchy. 

One final note on conscription comes from Switzerland. For some reason, in this country a man can choose to (a.) complete military service (b.) complete alternative service or (c.) pay an additional tax. Men who do not complete sufficient service, including many men declared medically unfit, pay 3% of their taxable income, with a minimum annual payment of CHF 400, for as many as ELEVEN years. Women bear no equivalent general obligation. Switzerland collected CHF 165 million through this tax in 2022 alone. 

The rationale for this discrimination tends to be that women preform much unpaid domestic labor. However, this is a category error. A literal, gender-based tax imposed upon males is not the same thing as soft pressures causing women who by and large choose to have children tending to preform somewhat more domestic labor (around 20-30%). Why is a man paying an extra male-specific tax whereas a woman who forgoes having children does not have to pay whatsoever? It also erases any reason a man should have for trying to pursue domestic equality, since you’re compensating this way anyways. If I’m paying this tax, I don’t want to hear shit about unpaid labor, nor do anything to try to solve said issue. 

The government is assuming it is a man’s duty to pay this tax or preform military service, whereas it is very uncomfortable saying women have any gender-based duty or obligation to the state. The Swiss government would never say women ought to preform domestic labor. If women do not have this as an obligation, why impose one on males? You cannot impose obligations based on non-obligations.

Anyways, that’s my rant. Give me your thoughts and critiques.

. . .

Jussi Heikkilä. Ina Laukkanen. Gender-specific Call of Duty: A Note on the Neglect
of Conscription in Gender Equality Indices. 2020.

UN. Goal 5: Gender Equality. 2026.

WEF. Appendix B The Global Gender Gap Index: Methodology and Technical Notes.


r/Destiny 9h ago

Non-Political News/Discussion Why are people joining the discord to discuss Psychosis?

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While viewing the Clancy case we just had someone come in trying to hijack the conversation as it relates to future testimony and the statistics/ conditions surrounding psychosis.

Psychosis has incredibly different statistics in both amounts of evidence and massive differences in terms of leading to deaths, severe actions, causes, episodic range, as well as onset conditions and time-frames. If you're going to come in and discuss these, can you at least discuss the exact condition?


r/Destiny 4h ago

Off-Topic Is marketing that advertises to the male gaze bad? I've noticed it making a comeback

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I feel like as Gen Z when I was growing up it was kinda seen as bad and objectification I feel like. But I saw something at Dunkin with some celebrity woman in a revealing position and there's those Calvin Klein commercials with Sadie Sink and Tate McRae. Is it bad?


r/Destiny 18h ago

Effort Post I REALIZED something about Destiny's BIAS against RYAN GEDDIE

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Clickbait title, sorry not sorry I LEARNED IT FROM YOU DEAR LEADER

I saw a tweet once that went something like this:

Virologist looks into the fall of Rome

"Actually, the Roman empire fell because of germs!"

I can't remember the wording that makes it funnier, but the point is that people with a particular area of expertise tend to see the impact their area of expertise is having on a topic, but not see the impact of things they are less of an expert on.

It occurred to me while watching his conversation with Ryan G and Anna that as an online debater Destiny has a unique appreciation for the way right wing narratives operate, and this brings not just unique insight but unique bias.

Professional debater looks into the decline of western democracy

"Actually, everything is falling apart because Republicans aren't playing fair in the marketplace of ideas!"

Sorry if this seems obvious or surface level, and sorry as well if it seems like an unfair way to undermine Destiny's points. I'm not trying to say Destiny is wrong, I'm actually inclined to agree with Destiny on this topic almost entirely, it's just something that occurred to me and gave me some pause in how I think about this myself.


r/Destiny 12h ago

Shitpost Chad Brettler Objecting to Jane Slurp

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I saw someone posting some AI / voiced of the deposition, next level would be to make an anime re-enactment with Brettler blasting plaintiff's council.


r/Destiny 9h ago

Non-Political News/Discussion Lindsay Clancy poll

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I vote she's sane

1272 votes, 1d left
She was sane during the killing
She was insane during the killing
temmiedank

r/Destiny 15h ago

Online Content/Clips Is this the new stream time going forward?

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Stream starting at 2AM for EU cucks is not fun. Sad emoji


r/Destiny 1h ago

Political News/Discussion Sir, another Trump genuinely out-flanks the Democrats has hit the policy tower

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r/Destiny 22h ago

Shitpost you have to give me this one

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r/Destiny 23h ago

Political News/Discussion Oh god this is giving me ptsd

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TLDR

Leftists: “the problem with you guys is that you want just regulations instead of taking apart the whole system.”


r/Destiny 21h ago

Shitpost iykyk

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r/Destiny 12h ago

Shitpost Sleep related content

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Luv my healthy sleep schedule, you jelly


r/Destiny 7h ago

Political News/Discussion What does Destiny mean when he says “there are no liberal spaces”?

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Now to be clear, this is more of an older argument he would make from earlier this year, but I think I’ve heard him say it semi recently as well.

The sentiment seems to be that there’s plenty of conservative spaces online (TPUSA, Crowder, Daily Wire, etc) as well as leftist/progressive spaces (Hasan Piker, Majority Report, Kulinski, Breaking Points) but that there are little to no pro-liberal spaces.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the argument, but I’ve been a bit confused at this sentiment since there seems to be… plenty? Unless I’m mistaken, Meidas Touch, David Pakman, Brian Tyler Cohen, Pondering Politics, Adam Mockler, The Bulwark, Pod Save America, that one lawyer guy (forgot his name), Luke Beasley, Dean & Parker, Hank Green, etc are all pretty staunchly liberal, aren’t constantly attacking the Democratic Party, and have great viewership. And this isn’t even taking into account mainstream media like CNN, Jon Stewart, Jessica Tarlov on Fox, Bill Maher, The View, John Oliver, etc. Sure, some of these people lean more progressive or populist, or are more accepting of leftism, etc, but it doesn’t really change the fact that there’s been a liberal ecosystem that Democratic politicians could have been going to this entire time without feeling like they’re heading into an ambush.

Am I missing something? The only thing I can think of is that they don’t call out leftists as much as maybe this community would like, but I feel like this subject came after Destiny had already started talking about the absence of liberal spaces, so I’m not sure how that would even be relevant.


r/Destiny 8h ago

Political News/Discussion Wake up babe, new DSA snark from the GOAT DSA snarker

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r/Destiny 9h ago

Drama Asmongold thinks that without Destiny, there would be no him, xQc, or Hasan "Reason why xQc and I also have a lot of respect for Destiny, bc if it wasn't for Destiny, all 3 of us wouldn't exist"

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Glory to dear leader


r/Destiny 11h ago

Political News/Discussion What's stopping AES from just saying he wants Hasan and his audience to support the democratic party, and that Hasan doesn't control the democratic party?

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I feel like this would mindfuck his audience and get Hasan to say "I was a progressive all along", and it sets clear boundaries for what behavior of his is or isn't acceptable.

Even for progressives/DSA, they have some standard for behavior I imagine. Mamdani disavows Piker, Bernie rejected the China book, etc.

I know this gives Hasan an "out" but he will get more shit from the far left.


r/Destiny 14h ago

Political News/Discussion Enough US politics. Swedish DGGers, who are you voting for in the Riksdag, municipal and regional elections, and why?

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Got my permanent residence granted (finally), so I can at least vote on the municipal and regional level. Doing my own research but wanted to get a feeling for where our community stands.


r/Destiny 2h ago

Political News/Discussion Bernie Sanders on Democrats “Taking the Bait” Condemning Hasan Piker

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r/Destiny 7h ago

Political News/Discussion US military carries out new strikes on Iranian targets

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r/Destiny 4h ago

Political News/Discussion Anybody else feel like they're insane for not being far left or far right

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It's hard to make connections/friends with people nowadays. I find people are either insane far left nutjobs who defend USSR, or far right sickos who go "DA JEWSSSSSSSSS", well actually with Israel/Palestine it's becoming a talking point for both sides.

Can't even talk about Islam/Muslims without some far left moron defend hamas, or some far right weirdo thinking all Muslims are behind 9/11.

Can't go see a new movie without somebody on either side disliking something because it has too many non white people, or hating a film because its overly white.

Can't get a drink from starbucks without saying you support genocide, or going to 5 guys + fries and schizo going on about MUH seed oils.

Worst part is you tell people you like some comedians who do racial jokes and you get some dork who thinks purely saying the N word is funny in of itself. Can't go to MMA gyms without people bringing up insane conspiracy theories.

I have friends whom I like but they are both falling into making politics their entire identity and I'm just like... I just wanna watch movies with somebody and shoot the shit lol. Anybody feel this way?


r/Destiny 4h ago

Shitpost Which would you rather be?

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Let’s settle this debate.

446 votes, 2d left
Hasan’s Dog
Pisco’s Boy

r/Destiny 12m ago

Shitpost Comemeorating one year

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r/Destiny 2h ago

Online Content/Clips Breaking Points x Hasan Struggle Sesh

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r/Destiny 23h ago

Off-Topic Night night buddy

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Also his hands and heart freaking magnetic


r/Destiny 8h ago

Political News/Discussion What's Destiny's current view on AOC + what is DGG's view?

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With AOC's reinstatement of her DSA membership and following much of the DSA messaging around Hasan's involvement with the MI senate race, I was curious if Destiny has voiced any opinion on her standing within the Democratic party or just his general view of her. I also wanted to ask DGG as a whole what they thought of her. Personally I was starting to have a more favorable view of her until recently (which I believe DGG as a majority did as well) but the recent DSA stuff has made me sour on her significantly, especially as a potential 2028 candidate.

source for DSA reinstatement: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/aug/26/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-rejoins-dsa