Hello and Welcome!

I'll preface this by saying that I've been considering myself an INFJ 4w5 with so/sx instinctual variants and 459 as my tritype, but admittedly it could be very off. I'm not sure if I'm an INFJ at all, considering I identify more with Si than Se, but that's probably a discussion for the MBTI subreddit. I think the reason for this is probably worth mentioning, that being that I tend to gravitate a lot more towards descriptions of what I think I should be or what I would like to be than what I genuinely am, though that might just be an everyone thing.

I found a questionnaire online that I'll be using!

1. What drives you in life? What do you look for?
- The idea of fulfilling my goals (and often others seeing me fulfill my goals, and not necessarily congratulating me but validating all the hard work I've done to get there). Sometimes I don't like the idea of someone, especially someone I dislike, being happier than me, and work harder towards being happy out of spite.

2. What do you hope to accomplish in your life?
- I hope I can achieve a life that I'm satisfied with. Which is pretty vague, but I honestly don't have more specifics in mind. I don't, however, want an easy life.

3. What do you hope to avoid doing or being? What values are important to you?
- I don't want to be 'normal.' It's important to me that I'm my own person and that I don't let social norms control my behavior and interests and such, and yet I'm scared to stray too far from what's considered normal for fear of being the center of attention, because while I want to stand out and be recognized by someone who shares my interests I also somehow don't want someone else to be like me. I generally find it important to be inclusive and genuine.

4. What are your biggest fears (not including phobias)? Why?
- Having regrets, or running out of time. I often struggle with making hard decisions and time management, and I really hate the idea of being on my deathbed and having a huge looming regret still haunting me.
- I also don't like the thought of someone perceiving me wildly differently from how I want to be perceived. I don't want to not be known.

5. How do you want others to see you? How do you see yourself?
- I want others to see me as someone they would find cool or want to befriend. I want others to recognize my talents in proportion to others'. I often find myself wanting to show off my work when others show off theirs and I think it's inferior to mine. I think mostly, I would just like others to see me as me.
- I don't really know. I see myself as an artist, mediocre at best, who's wandering around life on their own terms. I often change with time and that's just who I am.

6. What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
- I feel my best when I'm allowed to freely express myself as I am with no judgment, either positive or negative.
- I feel my worst when I've spent too much time around people or the same person and I can feel myself growing to hate them or act more rudely to them.

7. Describe how you experience each of: a) anger; b) shame; c) anxiety.
a. I guess I feel anger more like frustration. When I get angry, it's hard to articulate the exact reason I am, or articulate anything at all, though it seems so clear in my head. Usually it manifests in the need to move physically. In the moment, I feel helpless, and afterwards I feel tired.
b. I don't feel ashamed about my negative sides, but I do when I'm sharing those sides with someone else, or if someone else finds out about it through other means.
c. In the past, I was a pretty anxious person, but I've mostly gotten past that. When I get anxious now, my mind goes kind of haywire while planning exactly what to do in every scenario I can think of.

8. Describe how you respond to each of: a) stress; b) unexpected change; c) conflict.
a. I tend to isolate myself when I'm stressed, sometimes unconsciously, because it's difficult to talk to people when I have bigger things to worry about. I spend more time ruminating in my mind and rationally (as rationally as you can be when you're stressed) brainstorming the worst possible outcomes and trying to get used to those outcomes/training myself to expect those outcomes so I'm not as disappointed when it comes.
b. I really don't like unexpected change, or change at all. Usually it throws off my plans (even if it's just to do nothing the whole day) which makes me annoyed. On a larger scale, it makes me lose my footing, and I feel like I have to relearn everything again which tires me out.
c. I'm not very conflict averse, but I don't seek it out or anything. When it's unexpected, I feel the same way I do about unexpected change. If it's necessary, I don't mind at all, though I might be reluctant to start things unless I'm very heated about a topic.

9. Describe your orientation to: a) authority; b) power. How do you respond to these?
a. I typically don't like or trust people who are in authoritative positions, but I find myself too afraid to speak up against them.
b. When I'm in power, I feel like I can be prone to power trips. When I catch myself, I feel guilty and try to atone. However, I'd also feel like I can be more openly and loudly myself, since no one would dare to judge me.

10. What is your overall outlook on life and humanity?
- I would say I'm a positive nihilist; life doesn't have any inherent meaning and that idea is liberating. I feel like overall I have relatively positive perspective on most things, and I like to romanticize the things I don't have positive perspectives on so it doesn't feel as bad.
- My perspective on humanity largely changes with the context and my mood. At times, when I think about humanity as a whole, I feel like everything just sucks. Somehow I think I'm still more optimistic about it, though, and at times I feel like the general state of the world doesn't matter as much to me as long as I'm not impacted.

11. If a stranger insults you, how do you respond/feel? What if they compliment you?
- I take compliments to heart most of the time. I don't like the idea that people are just complimenting others to be nice, since it takes extra effort to compliment people and it's something I personally do because I genuinely mean it (I tend to assume everyone thinks like I do). In some situations, like when I'm meeting someone for the first time and we're in the same group of people, it does feel a bit fake, but I don't mind it too much. I respond pretty well to them but sometimes I think I sound kind of fake when I reply and I worry about it for a bit. As for insults, I feel more indignant yet also ashamed than hurt. It doesn't ruin my whole day but I probably won't forget about it anytime soon, though it won't hurt when I remember it later. It also depends on the insult--if someone's just being a bigot, then I'll just be disappointed.

Anywho, thank you for reading all this! I would really appreciate it if you could leave a comment :)

I’m trying to figure out how my mind actually works, so I’ll describe the patterns rather than just giving traits.

Day to day I’m very analytical and detached. I notice people and situations, but I don’t naturally feel the need to participate. I’m much better one to one than in groups. I’ll sometimes observe group dynamics or even eavesdrop just to understand how conversations work, but I don’t necessarily care about the people involved. I can enjoy talking to someone and want to become friends, but I’m also capable of internally thinking, “I don’t really care whether you’re here or not.” I need a lot of space and have fairly strict boundaries.

I’m quite socially awkward, but I’m not generally ashamed of being awkward, I’m quite verbally confident anyway and I’ll ask for info when needed. I can be loud, jovial and confident when I first interact with people, almost like I’m performing, then after a while I become quiet and aloof because I stop caring. I’ve been told I have “old man energy.” I’m much more comfortable around quiet people because I feel like I can actually be myself rather than having to play a character.
I’m quite detached from rejection in general. I also lie a lot, I make up stories or take them from things I’ve seen online and use them as anecdotes that “my friend experienced”. If people catch me out, I don’t mind admitting it and laughing it off but the consequences of credibility sinks in internally

If I approach someone and they reject me, I can usually just think, “Fair enough.” But if I’ve actually invested in someone mentally, it hurts badly. I don’t necessarily think I’m deficient; I just feel fucking sad and embarrassed internally. Sometimes I cope by thinking, “There must be another way,” and wondering what else I could have done to make it work. I can also feel bad that I didn’t make it work, or that I was too rude.

I struggle a lot with empathy and I’ve been told I can be too prideful. I find softness quite scary, so I don’t always know how to deal with it properly. If I’m desperate enough, I can retreat into an idealised version of things where we’re together and everything works out. I might even get delusional enough to make fucking fan fiction about it, which I recognise is a bit pathetic, but it can happen when I’m really attached.
I’m also quite sensitive to disrespect. Usually I don’t escalate things. I’ll withdraw or say something like, “That’s not very nice, man.” I care more about maintaining my own self respect than winning an argument. If I don’t care I’ll start shouting at them if they’re being childish and petty

With women, I can be quite idealistic. If I really like a girl, I can think about her a lot and genuinely want to improve myself for her. I might replay interactions and wonder whether she would like how I acted. I idealise love despite knowing it wouldn’t magically fulfil me. At the same time, I’m not particularly romantic in practice and find relationships quite energy consuming.

I’m attracted to shy, quiet girls because they’re easier for me to be around. If someone is too loud, I feel like I’m playing a character. I think I get attached quite strongly, but I try not to show it.

If I’m socially isolated for long enough, I can become quite hateful and resentful towards people. But if I’m around people consistently, that resentment gets subdued and I eventually stop caring about it. Sometimes I’ll see a guy with a pretty girl and think, “How the fuck does he have that? I should have that attention,” while simultaneously knowing I don’t really try and don’t have the social ability for it. I don’t blame them for it, though. I usually resent people I admire, and those are often the people I’m most interested in getting to know. I think I objectify women but that’s not really type related

I don’t really care about knowledge for its own sake. I’m not particularly curious and don’t retain much of what I read. But when something does interest me, I can analyse it deeply and try to fully understand or picture what’s being portrayed. Not something I care to share with others though and I struggle to verbalise it articulately. I don’t think I’m especially fixated on competence either. I actually talk myself up more than I do things.

I’m very go with the flow. I don’t like planning much and I’m genuinely content just walking around, travelling, journaling, making art or music, researching jobs or doing nothing. I don’t need to see every landmark or constantly have something happening.

My imagination is quite rich, and I tend to romanticise things. I fantasise about relationships and happy moments with people I like, but also about darker or more intense things. My emotional life is fairly private. I’m usually quite flat and straight faced, and I mostly experience some mixture of sadness, fear and anger. I try not to show it.

I don’t have a particularly stable identity. The way I describe myself changes depending on the day, and I honestly don’t care that much about figuring out exactly who I am anymore. The consistent things are that I’m analytical, calculated, aloof, need my space and romanticise things a lot.

I also genuinely want to be normal. Not an NPC with no personality, and not necessarily unique or special either. I just want to be a normal person who has friends and can have fairly surface level connections. I’m not saying that in a sad way. It’s more like an ideal world scenario I sometimes notice when I see people walking around.

I feel quite disconnected from it, with a mix of admiration and melancholy. Sometimes I’m curious about what it would be like to see the world through other people’s eyes, but I don’t necessarily think most people are constantly thinking about things that I could learn from. They just seem to get on with life, almost automatically, on autopilot.

Ultimately, I don’t want anything particularly grand. I want a stable job, friends, a girlfriend I genuinely connect with, and a normal life where I can just get on with things.

The types I’ve considered are sx5, sx4 and so4, but I’m not particularly convinced by any of them. I don’t feel especially driven by competence, uniqueness or intense relationships, so I’m genuinely unsure.

I need some help figuring out my typology. Very broad request so more specifically I mean my tritype/core. I am almost 80% confident in what my tritype and fixes are (not sharing to avoid bias), but I want to be sure and have some outsiders perspective. I have also heard many interpretations of myself, and typed myself as other things, so the possibilities feel endless (bad).

Link to my questionnaire
I’d be happy to answer any questions if anyone wants to help, also hi, new to reddit !!

So far i’ve been sp/so sp/sx sx/so, ISTJ INTJ ENFP ISFP, LSI ILI EII, 351 461 649 - been called an sx7 an sx4 and an sx5.

I understand the human mind is nuanced, I understand the best thing to do is read, I understand only I can know who I am, but what if i don’t know that? Each time someone has a new theory for me I immediately have to embrace it, so I need help.

First, I had to point out that it is very possible that I have autism and ADHD.

I’m confused what enneagram I’m well I want to know what you think.

In very early childhood, I was more extroverted. That changed because of my traumas. When I was 9 years old, my contact with my dad, whom I loved very much, was interrupted (not completely but in a very large part) because he was violent towards my mother. And also bullying changed a lot in me (because of all this I lost trust in people, I started to want to be independent as much as possible, but I also learned not to worry about others)

I’m person that always is in their head but not in fake scenarios just isolating myself from the outside world (often about my interests) And I also feeling like I’m more observing world than being in the outside world. I can go outside but just when there isn’t many people and it isn’t very noise (like concerts) Idgaf and I do at the same time. Like sometimes if my room is absolutely messy I don’t even about it, but when it’s something small , I can even cry because of it. I often ignoring me needs (like eating, or going to bathroom) and I even can forget it, because I’m focused on something.

I’m lazy, but also a little bit ambitious. Like I want to have better grades, study more but after one day I just don’t want to do this anymore. I like learning about topics that interests me, and I want know as much as possible about it. But I don’t have any reason for learning about things (and that how they also not in a specific way)

Idc about relationships. I’m just like „If we not be friends anymore than okay” (I have only one person that I care about more) I don’t think there’s a person that fully know me (I me fully don’t either) I have tend to hide me emotions, but I also can angry from something very easy sometimes. I can’t do be things that someone told me that I have to do. I like giving advices, but I don’t like if someone gives me them. It’s just annoying to me. I love logic, and understanding things (and I hate things that don’t make sense) If something doesn’t make sense then my head is like „that’s wrong it have to be like …”I was always ignored, because I don’t like socialising (I have one friend and our spending time it’s mostly quite time
I love to know how something works, but if it’s in reality, I often accidentally destroy something while learning how it works.

(You can ask me more questions, because it’s a little short)

Any questions are welcome. FYI, I know I’m not e3, e2, e1, e7, or e8. I also don’t know my instinctual variant either! Thanks in advance.

How would you describe yourself?

I always describe myself as a fairly laid back person most of the time. People in my life usually describe me as "serious" and "intense", but also "confident" and even "charismatic." Even had a romantic partner describe me as "magnetic" a little while back. Relatives and friends consider me "thoughtful" and that I have a "big heart" despite my quiet and serious demeanor.

That's something I think is a critical part of me that I didn't realize for a long time is that I have this innate reflex of caring for others and treating people fairly. Even if I don't like someone I don't want them to be treated in a way I think is unfair. Looking back at my childhood and teens, I think an easy example of this is how I played video games as a teenager. I would always strive for "the best" outcome and try to save as many people as I could in games where choices mattered. I would feel guilty or wrong even if I tried to be 'evil' in-game; It felt so pointless to act that way. I'd reset and keep trying until I got the outcome I thought was the best for the greatest number of people based off of what I knew.

More to the point on my ethical standing - No matter how much I might want out of life, I would never want it to come at someone else's expense. I wouldn't feel good about that. I'd rather be comfortable with myself as a person, to know I'm still who I want to be as an individual, rather than wealthy or powerful. To know that I am who I say I am.

This is something that's become more and more apparent to me over the past few years, as I've gotten older. Throughout my life I've always had hang-ups about certain things that don't feel good or right to me, utterly refusing to compromise on things that I felt a certain way about, but it's become a much more conscious thing as I've come to grips with the realities of the world around me. I'm always mindful of if I feel like I'm making the right choices when it matters.

What do you want out of life? More than anything?

Since I was a teenager, my dream has always been to have a place to get away from everyone and everything. Whether it was imagining a huge mansion as a teenager, or a cabin in the woods in my early twenties, or simply a nice piece of farmland with a decently sized home where I could live peacefully away from everything as I wish for now - that has always been the core desire. Everything else revolves around that.

I do want to have a positive impact on the world, a large part of me wants to be up on stage in front of an audience of thousands as I speak. Making use of my speaking abilities that I've developed throughout my life and giving other people hope. Even when I wanted to be super rich as a teenager, I still dreamed of donating massive amounts of money to medical research and to help those in need. But at the end of the day, if I don't have my place where I can get away from everything, I'm not sure what I'd do.

What is the worst thing you can imagine happening to yourself?

The worst thing for me would be losing my ability to be independent and live life on my own terms. When I imagine this, I usually think of it either physically (e.g. stroke, paraplegia, or some other neurological cause that would make me dependent on others) - or mentally (e.g. Alzheimer's/Dementia, psychosis, paranoid schizophrenia, etc.) I always figure that I can come back from anything as long as my mind and body are intact. I have full confidence in myself and refuse to give up.

No matter what else happens in my life. No matter if I'm successful or not, my one thing has always been wanting to be my own person and never needing to depend on others. To decide things for myself and doing my best to never let anyone else influence my opinions. It took me a long time to accept that it was okay to ask for help when I needed it because of my own pride and belief that I can handle anything life throws at me. Realized that you look a lot stupider when you're stubbornly refusing help when you need it.

What are your greatest talents?

When I'm committed to something, I tend to be ruthlessly efficient and thorough. I've been told countless times that I'm a "natural leader" and a "strong presence" in a room - following up on the comments I've gotten about being intense and serious.

I naturally take to organizing and directing others to get things done, and genuinely enjoy being in charge. There's a satisfaction I get from it, alongside genuinely wanting to orchestrate things to get the best possible results (or the desired result). I not only like being in control, but demonstrating that I'm really good at it too. If I'm not living up to a certain standard, then I feel like I could be doing more.

What would you consider your greatest flaw(s)?

I tend to live in my own head a lot. While I do work out three to five times per week, I tend to live a very sedentary lifestyle. I think a lot about doing various things, but rarely act on them unless I feel a serious compulsion to do so. Still, I can be impulsive at times. Though for me that manifests as simply choosing to eat at a new restaurant, indulging in food or other things. For most things that are unknown to me, I usually like to take serious time to think it over and prepare before acting.

I also have constantly fluctuating interests. I've been like this for as long as I can remember. I tend to fixate on something for varying lengths of time, diving deep into it for days or weeks at time until my interest is exhausted. After drifting away and finding something else, I may have completely forgotten about whatever I was fixated on previously.

So, what do you think?

She is our second eldest, 23, currently majoring in Graphic Design for her Bachelor’s Degree and single, never been in a relationship

Out of all my siblings, she’s the main snitch. No one trusts her with their secrets. But I understand where she’s coming from. She’s like the teacher’s pet of the family, always telling on others if they skipped class, sleeping later than we should, skipping our chores and the list goes on. She’s righteous, but she can be a hypocrite. She gets heated when someone cusses but when she did it, suddenly its alright

She was the more “physical” sibling growing up. As a child, she was often punished for being too active. She broke things a lot and was troublesome.

As we grew up, she became softer, but she would get physical before apologising (she hit me with a broom for talking back, pinched my arm until it left a tear, etc, but then she will come to me and apologise softly). We all cringed when she tries to speak softly. Not because we hate her, but because we grew up having to tough it out so hearing her soft tone irritates me and most of our other siblings.

Our family is quite strict on “family first”. So when she had a big exam and stopped spending time with the family, everyone basically ghosted her. I was young so I also disliked her because of influence from the elder family members. Even my father ignored her, even said something like “If you ignore everyone in the family, I will ignore you.” Her mental health at that point was terrible, she had to go to counselling at school because of that. But she achieved great results at the end

Now, she’s still soft spoken and our family’s own teacher’s pet. I still try to minimise our time together because of bad experience growing up. She achieved many great things ever since she was little—but now she made our parents even more proud. Got fully funded Bachelor’s Degree scholarship, President’s list, Dean’s list and many achievements from her university.

Hello :) I got deep into the enneagram back in 2020 and it helped me a lot in my early 20s, especially with managing feeling flawed. I’ve always known myself as a 4w3 (occasionally 5 wing), and I related hard to integrating at 1 and disintegrating at 2. I know I’m deep in disintegration right now, as this is one of the most unstable points of my life at 25.

I came back to enneagram recently for some direction, and hearing the 4 description again made me wonder if I mistyped.

Much of it still fits: I like standing out, my partner (6w7) calls me performative, I romanticize pain sometimes, I feel like an outsider in my friend groups, like some are permanent members and i’m a temporary member.

But a lot of it doesn’t fit anymore. I’d rather keep the peace and match the group’s mannerisms. Even while having strong opinions I blend in and mirror so well I pick up my friend groups’ accents. Envy and comparison aren’t big themes in my life. I don’t relate to the melancholy or the need for deep authenticity. I’m very social, my interests change drastically every few years, and I’m colored by whoever I’m around: more masculine with masculine friends, more feminine with feminine ones, and both are me. I’m never “unapologetically myself” and very few people see all sides. I’m not eccentric and never have been. I care more about security and stability than authenticity, and I’d like my inner world kept completely private except with my 2-3 closest people. I’m also not artistic at all (I work in political research).

The key idea: I don’t have a persistent focus on what’s missing, or assume everyone else has an easier path, deeper connections, a better grasp on life or feels “whole” while I’m not. I never truly felt that and always saw how much everyone struggled. And I don’t mind being told what to do…I actually seek it, especially from people I love (after not telling them about any of it for months so I don’t burden them… disintegration at 2).

Does anyone else feel this way as a 4?

I (Type me Tuesday) help me find my subtype

I hate how much I care about how I’m seen by others. At work, school, in my social circles but I’m aware I also vehemently deny how much I care. I don’t want to care. I don’t want to sacrifice my authenticity but I feel this constant push-pull with wanting to be liked and wanting to be seen and recognized but also wanting to be myself and needing to be alone and be invisible. I feel so pathetic with my need to be recognized. I want to be popular but I don’t want to lose myself and I don’t want to lose my privacy. I admire those that don’t seem to care about how the group perceives them and they just live freely. I’m always comparing myself with everyone around me. Feeling both intense hatred and anger but also deep self loathing and wondering why I can’t be like them. I know I can’t no matter how much I work at myself I will never be satisfied with myself so I don’t even fucking bother. I feel like a horrible person for being hateful and envious of the people I love. I always feel like the most hated person in every group. I can feel how much everyone hates me. I’m diagnosed AuDHD so it kind of explains my experiences but i just feel like there’s more to it. Idk what’s wrong with me, but being ND isn’t my whole story.

I don’t relate to the “look how much pain I’m in” so4 description, but I also don’t relate to the competitive and angry sx4, nor the stoic sp4. I never cry in front of others and im bad at talking about my feelings. Maybe it’s because I’m a man. I express myself through art and music to show how I feel but I only share it online so no one irl can see my work and judge me further for it.

I know I’m a 4 so don’t try and type me as something else.

 im working on a character for a book and I'm just struggling to place what enneagram she is. she is also a big work in progress so if you have any ideas on how her enneagram shows up in her life and her personality, that would be cool. im struggling between 1, 2, 6 and 9. she is somewhat based off of me, and im a sx9 (if that helps at all)

She is a 20 year old autistic university student, and she is a genderqueer butch lesbian. She has a personality similar to a service dog and a knight

A big part of her character is her desire to fix things for other people. Her parents divorced when she was quite young and she became her mum's therapist in some ways, feeling love from her mother when she was helpful to her and to fix her problems. She is a high achiever because it would drag away attention from her mum's coping with her issues, towards her instead. kind of in a "made it out of the rough" kind of way. Her culture is also quite prideful, a big emphasis on "your family is my family", very close knit people, a lot of expectations to look perfect as an only child to a single immigrant mother. and together these influences created someone whose goal in life is to be helpful to people because it's the right thing to do. She would bend over backwards to help someone even at her own detriment. selfless but to their own detriment, out of self preservation but because its all she's ever known, to be useful.

She is a perfectionist and she knows it, and has trouble figuring out where she belongs. she also doesnt appear very emotional to most people, but is internally very anxious and is a big overthinker

In the story, she meets someone who she cannot fix as they are chronially ill, and her personal development is learning how to be okay with that, and how to listen to herself. She struggles with the idea of not being able to fix someone, only being able to help and alleviate symptoms. She wants to be a saviour towards this person but cant because again, this person is chronically ill and she is not a doctor. The relationship with this person teaches her that there are some things you cannot change, and that the pattern of life she is living is not sustainable unless she wants to waste away. She needs to be independent and stop finding her worth in others

Hello,

I have spent a few weeks now researching typology/enneagram/tritypes, and I've found myself to be stuck. I want to preface this entire post by saying that I have Autism, BPD, and copious amounts of trauma. I've seen people say those things can affect scores on tests, but I'm not aware of how much. I have spent so long taking tests and even just doing my own research outside of that. (I have seen that the tests can be very inaccurate at times.) I just keep getting similar results, from what I can tell, I seem to be an INTP 2w3.

Curiosity struck me, and I wanted to see if anybody else had the same results. After a long while of reading through threads and seeing what people had to say, I saw that a good amount of people said it was impossible. Now I'm just confused. They do resonate with me, and they make perfect sense in my mind. I know it's contradictory, but it really does match my way of thinking. The fears and desires that come with being a 2w3 fit perfectly for me. Being an INTP just makes sense as well... I've considered that to be my MBTI for years. I don't understand it. I don't know if it's my disordered brain's fault or I'm just mistyping myself. I'm in a constant battle with myself. I need to be loved, I need to have worth to people. If I'm not the best, then I have nothing. But I need to be alone, I am very much an introvert. I hate social activities, I hate talking to people. I just like being by myself and thinking.

I would love some help, resources, thoughts- anything, really. I know it seems silly to be so worked up over something like this, but it is my current fixation. And I'd just like to know if I could be wrong. Sometimes I feel self aware, but I worry maybe my perception of myself is skewed.

I’m the third daughter in a family of 11 (parents included). Many siblings, I know, but I always feel like the odd one out

I have an RBF (resting-b-face). My personality ; blunt, especially to the ones I’m close to. Otherwise, I’ll try to not be too straightforward. I have a boring personality, I can tell that much. I don’t think others look forward to seeing me, they only do when I match their vibe. I tend to isolate myself because no one feels safe to me. My time with others are very limited. My parents sometimes wonder where I am but I’d just be in my room doing work. I spend too much time in my head and I adore reading, but in this economy? I have to work as a freelancer to have some money to spend and help my family

Growing up, my parents weren’t too absent, but I spent a lot of time alone. My two elder sisters are years older than me so they had their own thing going on. I learned to seek connection outside of my family and ended up being friends with bad influence—that led to my eventual punishment (my phone got taken away for roughly 3 years). My elder sisters can get physical but they mostly use words to keep me in check, my parents basically let them raise me and our other siblings. Their words can be very hurtful so I work in the shadows lolol, I kinda try to make my younger siblings happy when they just got yelled at

Hobbies are drawing, reading, listening to jazz as I journal, doing research (that’s simply out of my own curiousity). I absolutely hate being ordered. I’d want to defy that person. I’m not very selective about who I interact with because I know I’m not gonna be putting effort to make a connection. They’re just another stranger I’d forget in a few days. People rarely gets stuck in my mind. That only happens when I see someone inspiring and/or they changed my perspective on something. Prone to procrastination but hate every second I wasted… I’m full of contradictions

I don’t like stupid arguments. If someone wants to argue with me, bring answers that makes sense, logical. Not argue just for the sake of winning. I’d get silent quickly. I also don’t like when people act clueless, especially in public. I’m not patient, I will take action—with or without calculation

I also find it hard to like someone romantically. Everyone I’ve actually liked are fictional… something in actual human getting to know me intimately is very intimidating and I hate vulnerability above all. I don’t let anyone in, not even my family members. I don’t cry easily, but it also doesn’t take too much to make me cry. Confrontations can be emotionally overwhelming because of how exposed I feel, and tears comes easily. I hate crying in front of others too

Lastly, I’m interested in Sociology, Philosophy, World Literature, Psychology and History

A user typed me as so4. Actually, when I opened the definition of so4 and looked at it, it suited me, but I also thought that I could be so9 because both of them had the need to belong to a group. How can I understand this better?

My personality always shifts a lot according to what I feel is good for me to have to people and to myself and is very fluid sometimes find myself thinking: why can't I have more of a particular personality trait now?

Then I start to embody that trait suddenly and it also changes a lot depends on my environment is this an SO dominant thing? It's like I keep changing it to find the perfect personality that is the most favourable /useful/ beneficial. I care lot more about how others perceive me than my own needs or wants so I'm probably not SP dom

It might be that I'm Sx last because I don't prioritize pleasure and I hate myself over doing enjoyable things that are unhealthy I resonate with the intense connection to things part of Sx.

But I know I'm either an SO/SP or an SO/SX because social has to be my instinct as I care a lot about how others think of me and see me.

As the title suggests I am making this post trying to get some feedback distinguishing between being so1 and so6, I've read about both but I have observed myself repeating patterns of both so it's been difficult to understand if I am so6 with 1 fix or so1 with 6 fix.

• 1. What motivates you the most in life? Do you think you have a reasoning to your course of actions in your life? As in something you wish to gain or benefit from your actions.
• I am motivated by my personal wants, my views of what is considered the best way to do things and by contributing to society, I prefer having a purpose where I can bring positive change and order. I also have a reason for everything I do and never take actions I cannot justify or am not entitled to, I do sometimes take impulsive action based on what I think I should do but I always try to cover it with a justification, or at worst, apologize. What I wish to gain is order and avoid being blamed or judged unreasonably.
• 2. What do you think is something you fundamentally lack/is bad at? Something you acknowledge how it affects aspects of your life?
• I know I can be too stubborn and easy to aggravate but I don't consider myself a person to have noticeable behavioral flaws, at least in my perspective. If I had to list one it'd be procrastination but it switches on and off depending on my motivation for things I do and why.
• 3. How do you deal with authority? Authority can mean anyone in a position of power, regardless of the place. Do you push against them, adhere to them, fear them, or do you think they are crucial for order to be established?
• I don't have any inherent problem with authority but I always tend to judge how logically consistent their opinions are, if they tend to justify their actions and how reasonable they actually are. I tend to push for reforming or actively defy authority if I believe they are being unjust and acting on personal gain, otherwise if they are reasonable I have no problem adhering by the rules and doing things their way.
• 4. How important is your image in regards to how others perceive you? Do you want to be perceived in a certain way? Does it bother you if you are perceived in some other way than the one you wish to be perceived with?
• My image is important to me yes, huge part of why I believe I am social instinct dominant. I want to be seen as a person worth of respect whose judgement is not to be questioned, I dislike it when people argue with me about my statements or don't follow along with what I say but I also make sure to not be harsh or rude for no reason and not be forceful on people unless their attitude earned it. I also dislike when people view me as stubborn or stuck up for simply holding different opinions from theirs and sticking to my own thing.
• 5. What is your reaction and thoughts to others' rejection, criticism and disapproval of you?
• I become internally heated up at criticism and feel entitled to be mad and internally(or externally if I can afford to) judgemental of the person who made the criticism, listing all their flaws/bad behaviors and thinking that they had no right to judge me when they are 'no better'. There is not much reaction to disapproval or rejection however, people are free to disapprove of/reject me, as long as they don't make it a personal thing or start insulting me.
• 6. What sort of events/situations in life that causes you anger? Anger is an emotion characterized by antagonism towards someone or something you feel has deliberately done you or others wrong. If there is any, elaborate on them.
• Being blamed, judged and being inconvenienced because of other people gets me pretty fired up. In the first two cases I can be pretty straight forward and confrontational about it then hold resentment towards the person responsible until they apologize. In the last case, I have a strike system depending on how much of an inconvenience something was and whether it is a repeated pattern. I am a patient person mostly.
• 7. Following the last question, do you think anger is necessary in life? How do you express your anger, or do you choose not to? Why and why not?
• Anger isn't the most necessary part of life but it's certainly there and should be monitored in order to have a functioning and safe society. When mad I tend to start acting cold around the people responsible for making me angry, ghost them and refusing to acknowledge their presence externally even when I am pretty aware of it internally. In general I try not to express my anger unless I am very justified to do so and won't face severe consequences(though if I explode I tend to ignore that sometimes). I don't think shouting and cursing out at people is productive so I prefer to keep quiet about it and wait for them to realize their mistake or until I've completed forgotten about the event. I've noticed my anger tends to be more hot-fired and explosive-like around my family and way more restrained and cold when around other people, whether friends or strangers.
• 8. What is the importance of the concepts, ideas and meaning behind things to you? Are you trying to make sense of your everyday life?
• I am a pretty grounded person, though can be very idealistic, but I understand the importance of concepts and ideas and I enjoy them myself in my free time. I am of the mind that staying too grounded and not ever looking at the ideal or abstract can keep a person never changing or never improving, seeing other concepts and interpretations can be mind-opening.
• 9. What situations in life bring you the most guilt? Guilt is described as a feeling that you have committed a fault, which may be internal guilt towards yourself, or guilt towards your actions regarding another person. Do you frequently experience feelings of guilt?
• Not doing something I should have done and forgot, procrastinating on things that are important, wronging others, not respecting their autonomy and being forceful on them without them ever giving me a reason to tend to eat me up inside until I have found a way to correct or justify my actions. I always think of compensating, "shit I didn't do this, okay I will do double the work next time", "I didn't mean to be forceful or dismissive like that, I should apologize and explain myself" even when said actions will not have that big of consequences, I feel uneasy leaving them unresolved.
• 10. What makes you feel ashamed the most? Shame signifies a self-conscious emotion arising out of feeling that something is fundamentally wrong about oneself. Are you prone to such feelings often?
• I am ashamed when I make wrong/rush judgements and sometimes I can't outwardly admit them, sometimes I can become so focused on not being wrong and judged that I end up producing arguments for why my position was reasonable even if I internally know it wasn't, not always. I tend to find more faults in others than myself but I do hold myself accountable for my mistakes, especially when they affect other people. Things like "I should have thought this through before acting" "I shouldn't have been quick to judge" rise up in my mind but instead of dwelling on them I try to think of the ways I could fix things or compensate, if I can't do any of those, I will move on and as I find dwelling on what can't be fixed unproductive.
• 11. What makes you feel fearful the most? Fear is described as an emotion which warns us of the presence of danger or threat of harm, whether physical or psychological. May be internally ingrained feelings, or externally because of other people/situations.
• I am fearful of having my autonomy be overridden, of my opinions not mattering, of being contradicted publicly, of hurting the people I want around me and being unable to act or fix my problems. I always struggled with identifying my core fear, so this is the best way I could describe it, honestly.
• 12. Is it important for you to have a high social status, to be socially connected, to integrate/fit in and belong to a group? Is it something you work towards achieving?
• I don't care much about status as I do about being respected but I acknowledge that to have status would mean to make changes so I would chase it when possible. I do like integrating into groups for casual talk, I am a social person after all, but I tend to observe first what said groups value/do/say rather than immediately hop in. I usually tend to become part of groups by stating my opinions, people agreeing with me and then respecting me enough to include and ask for my opinions, it brings me satisfaction. There were cases where my opinions were not welcome or really acknowledged but I always defended them and then detached from the group as their communication style, interests and opinions didn't fit mine.
• 13. To what extent do you value issues related to the quality and status of relationships with specific individuals, and maintaining relationships and connections?
• I don't value relationships as much as I do my place within groups and don't really pay much attention to them. I tend to, of course, be a good friend/partner, one who helps them out, discusses their problems, gives advice and spends time with them but it is not my focus and I have ended many friendships/relationships without batting an eye because of them not reciprocating and generally not being worth my time and inconveniencing me.
• 14. Would you consider yourself a self-sacrificing individual? How much time or resources are you willing to sacrifice to assist others or make things easier for others? Or are you simply seeking your own good and well-being?
• I wouldn't consider myself self-sacrificing in the casual sense nor egotistic, I do sacrifice my time and resources to help others and convenience them but only when I have nothing else, that I consider more important, to do. I care about people's issues in general and many times rush to give them advice or be with them when they need it but nothing too crazy.
• 15. What are your thoughts on expressing your vulnerability? Vulnerability is a willingness to express emotion or to allow its weaknesses to be visible or known. What makes you think or feel you are vulnerable?
• I am not one to express emotion readily, I tend to voice things impersonally like "This was frustrating/irritating/ridiculous" with the occasional "This pissed me off" when I know it's justifiable/makes sense to say so, rather than actively involving myself to the emotion even when I feel it unless I am with a person who I consider close. Most of what I share about myself is information or experiences rather than actual vulnerabilities unless, the person is close to me and they have also shared many vulnerabilities of theirs. What I consider vulnerabilities is expressing what hurt me, why, and that I am too attached to my subjective views of things which I constantly try to justify as reasonable. I don't like being in the position where the other person has ground to hurt me or point out any hypocrisy or contradiction in my thinking.
• 16. Is self improvement important to you or is it something you ignore? Are you in a position where you're perfectly content with who you are, or do you constantly strive for more? Elaborate.
• Self-improvement is important to me and I believe it should be important for everyone. Honestly, I believe that as a person, I have the right mindset on life and only need to become more disciplined with myself rather than only show my best self around people. I am definitely not content with how I currently am in ways other than personality, I strive for being competent in all I do, in being the right and respectable paradigm for everyone and finding ways to perform better in my studies and in finding an efficient and consistent routine that will work for me. I need to put a lot of my life together.

By this I mean specifically, for example, when they complain about physical things they don’t want to put up with, or when they’re forced to change a plan, or when they have to expend too much energy that they didn’t want to expend (Sp dom). And the same goes for anger issues—when someone forces them to do something they don’t want to do, or when they see something unfair, or when they’re forced to open up. And by “lazy,” I mean when they’re forced to do something they clearly don’t want to do.

*I don't know what subtype I am, but SP4 is the one that fits me best (especially SP Dom), although I don't identify with the idea of never complaining or being quiet. I’m also not as competitive as SX4s, and I don’t express my sadness as easily either, because I see that as a sign of weakness, like SO4s do. I can be intense like an SX4, and I do engage in masking and experience a lot of social anxiety like an SO4. But otherwise, I identify with all the subtypes. I have ADHD and autism—I don’t know if that makes it harder to fit 100% into the description of a subtype.*

I am an ENTJ and I clearly had fewer doubts about my MBTI than about the Enneagram. Recently I came to the conclusion that I am 1w9 and not 8w7. I have a lot of traits of the unit, from behavior to integration into other types, but I have not seen ENTJ 1w9, only ENTJ 1w2 and I have a question - is ENTJ 1w9 a really possible combination or not?

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I'm rather new to ennagram, but I know for a fact that my enneagram is e5. but I don't know if I am sx5 or sp5. I'm also confused on my gut and heart type, it's either 3 or 4 for heart, and 8 or 9 for gut.

(Please help)

Can the estp-t be 3w4? I'm sure about mbti, but it seems that the enneagram also describes me. And the same way. If you can, tell me what might be in the last place in the prefix. I'm not sure about the sx6 on the end.

I kinda relate to 4 or 2 but i really cant decide which one I am . It wold be very helpful to be asked questions or whatsoever...

Pls tell me this is possible

Ive been trying to find my typology for days

I created a community for enneagram 4w5s. Many 4w5s are INFPs, so I am sharing the link here.

As a 4w5 INFP I find myself deeply drawn into solitude and cultivating a relationship with the universe. At the same time, there is always a yearning to meet someone deeply, and find others who are like me, even if that is very difficult to find.

Hope this community is a step in that direction.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram4w5/

Does ENTP Ne>Ti sp/sx 748 flev rcuei work??

I'm actually an sp5 but I realized I used my Ne a lot more then Ti and I read more about e7 core and I feel like I relate to the core much more than I did with e5 core but Im really reserved so I'm just thinking can a sp7 be reserved?

Здравствуйте. Хотела бы спросить насчёт своей типологии, ибо я сильно сомневаюсь, и тревожусь о неправильном, нелогичном построении.

Я infj 6w5, но существуют ли они в целом? Инстинкты sx/sp. Я слышала, что 6 это онли исфп, правда ли это??

Мой тритип - 638, знаю, что тритип не коррелирует, но не должно ли оно выглядеть как 658?

Вообще я немного новичок в этом, я читала разные ресурсы, чтобы понять, но все еще сложно полностью освоить.

Спасибо заранее всем тем, кто откликнется и поможет мне!! 🥺