r/NonCredibleDiplomacy 23h ago

Does this count?

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u/PabloPiscobar Relational School (hourly diplomacy conference enjoyer) 21h ago

The paper I wrote for a grad school project, about Afro-Asian (mostly Afro-Chinese) people in Mozambique, I opened by talking about Mao's proposal to population transfer 10,000,000 women to the US.

It would've been really interesting if Nixon and Kissinger by mistake-or on purpose-accepted Mao's proposal and in short order converted ~5% of the US population to Chinese women.

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u/rdnaskelz 20h ago

5 year plan for 5%

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u/Thomas_633_Mk2 11h ago

GET READY TO LEARN CHINESE BUDDY

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u/duovtak 21h ago

Great Leader Mao defeating AI in 1973 with cheap human capital. Checkmate.

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u/Adventurous_Touch342 19h ago

Ironic considering modern China...

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u/Raesong Imperialist (Expert Map Painter, PDS Veteran) 15h ago

Somewhat, but it does still highlight the underlying issue of how women are viewed in Chinese society.

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u/Scaevus 11h ago

10 million either way probably wouldn’t make a difference. It seems like a lot of people, but represents 0.07% of their population.

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u/defariasdev 2h ago

Not ironic. Mao thinking there's an excess of women is what led to their longer being enough women

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u/StickShift5 16h ago

Considering how many girls I've met who were adopted from China, we basically got them with extra steps.

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u/Whats-on-Eur-Mind Imperialist (Expert Map Painter, PDS Veteran) 14h ago

His wife probably issued a veto.

Too bad, Zeihan could have talked endlessly about how it contributed to China's coming TOTAL DEMOGRAPHIC COLLAPSE 😱

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u/Independent_Depth674 19h ago

Why didn’t he go for it?

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u/VladimirBarakriss Neoliberal (China will become democratic if we trade enough!) 18h ago

Mao offered all the short women and Kissinger was a climber

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u/Oxcell404 13h ago

Maybe he did

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u/fromkatain 13h ago

China has less females than males now they need 10 million russian females to compensate

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u/Even_Fox2023 17h ago

TIL 10,000,000 Chinese women could have had better lives.

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u/lanicorain 15h ago

yeah, the US is famously a very easy place to live in for first generation immigrant women of color. just so much opportunity

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u/Thomas_633_Mk2 11h ago

just so much opportunity

This but unironically, why do you think the US has been getting immigration for centuries? Do you think they're all going there because it sucks so much? Even today, with everything going on, the US has a HDI of 0.938 and China has a HDI of 0.797.

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u/Bwint 11h ago

*Bravely* I suspect that Maoist China had worse living conditions than the US, even for immigrants

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u/ini0n Doesn't understand Chinese foreign policy award 13h ago

Unironically, because the USA has been swamped with demand for immigration for decades. Millions move a year, many even risking it illegally, so they must be wanting to come for a reason.

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u/lanicorain 11h ago

There's a massive propaganda apparatus called Hollywood. Many of those millions don't know anything about how the country really works.

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u/ini0n Doesn't understand Chinese foreign policy award 9h ago

Well immigrate to Asia or the middle east as a woman and see how you go. There's a reason people want to move to the west. Because we're rich and the least racist/sexist/homophobic. Only in the west can you truly be accepted as a citizen and rise to the highest positions of power and importance.

We're not perfect just everyone else is worse.

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u/tragesorous 13h ago

Hey don’t talk about that part. He asked for it not to be in the record: the record states. Seriously look at the transcript

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u/Brilliant-Lettuce695 9h ago

Same guy who said ″Women hold up half the sky″ btw.