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u/aminok 9h ago

The only major political faction in the United States that operates like a cult is the socialists/Democratic-leaning people:

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665?__cf_chl_tk=timrOzdpgjX2TiV1kybaeR076.UlY.GUH8wJ0npPHIM-1788266074-1.0.1.1-TOnsppJU2gE9IxLqEBY7aaycqD5oq_AQ76ad_s.qIcs

Scroll to the bottom to see visualizations of their viewpoint clustering.

Studies also show that socialists have extreme hatred for those that they view as conservatives, whereas conservatives do not hate socialists. When questioned, socialists suspect that the conservatives hate them. And when questioned, conservatives assume that the socialists don't hate them. So there's a massive asymmetry in hatred. And the reason why there's so much hatred among socialists is that they're in a cult.

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 9h ago edited 9h ago

Your only argument is tribalism. That doesn't by itself make a cult.

Alternative Facts and Shared LanguageSpecial Vocabulary: The use of repeating phrases like "fake news" or "witch hunt" creates a unified internal language that separates members from outsiders.Rejection of Consensus Reality: Disagreement with standard facts—such as election outcomes or mainstream news—helps reinforce group solidarity and trust only in approved sources.Cognitive Dissonance Reduction: Conflicting reports about the leader are often dismissed as attacks by dishonest adversaries, strengthening internal resolve.Social Control and CommunitySense of Belonging: The group offers a powerful community for people who feel ignored or isolated by mainstream society.Internal Policing: Members or former allies who criticize the leader face immediate social rejection, shunning, or political marginalization.A psychologist explains the psychological drivers and denial mechanisms behind intense political loyalty:

Would you like to hear more similarities?

No groups hate others quite like conservstives. Whether those of other colors, trans peope, etc. 

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u/aminok 9h ago

Look, you can get the AI to tell you anything you want by prompting it to do so. That doesn't answer the questions. Tribalism is in fact one of the hallmarks of a cult. Everyone converging on the same views and feeling incredible social pressure not to deviate from the group's narrative is cult-like.

Everyone outside of the Democrats has very diverse views because those kinds of cult-like dynamics are not there. It's only the Democrats where you see a very large number of people all converging on exactly the same positions across a wide set of very complex issues.

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 9h ago

Tribalism on it's own does not make a cult. Sociological speaking, Maga shares a more cult-like structure. Rejecting facts is an example.

Who won tne 2020 election? 

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u/aminok 9h ago

No, tribalism at the extreme, which the Democrats exhibit, is in fact a cult. Extreme tribalism is enforced by and also enforces cult dynamics

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 9h ago

Tribalism is all you have. I could find dozens of similarities between Maga and cults. Having your own facts that only cult members believe is an example. 

Who won the 2020 election?

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u/aminok 9h ago

Yes, I have the defining quality of a cult, which is extreme tribalism. Thank you for proving my point. If Republicans were a cult, they would not have wildly diverging views on the major issues. That goes directly in opposition to what a cult does.

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 8h ago

They are all sheep. They don't have diverging views. In fact Trump has changed the entire party from small government, fiscal responsibility, and free trade to anti free trade, large government interference and fuck the deficit. Most Magas get their truth from their leader. There's no disputing Trump himself has changed everything about the GOP.

BTW, you didn't answer. Who won the 2020 election?

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u/aminok 8h ago

This study proves that the views of Republicans diverge wildly on the major issues, while the views of Democrats converge to an extreme and unnatural degree:

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665?__cf_chl_tk=timrOzdpgjX2TiV1kybaeR076.UlY.GUH8wJ0npPHIM-1788266074-1.0.1.1-TOnsppJU2gE9IxLqEBY7aaycqD5oq_AQ76ad_s.qIcs

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 8h ago

One study doesn't prove all democrats are in a cult. Your hilarious. Not only that, but members chosen are not necessarily representative of the population. The conclusions are not such that democrats are in a cult. You are attempting to extrapolate on flimsy logic. 

Why won't you give me the satisfaction of being right and answer who won the 2020 election?

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u/aminok 8h ago

What indications do you have that the conclusions of the study are wrong? Do you have any peer-reviewed studies that reach opposite conclusions from this one? Or do you have any issues with the methodology of the study or its design?

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u/LunarEggplantAquatic 8h ago

The conclusions are not that democrats are in a cult. Show me where it draws that conclusion. 

That's your overly simplified, politically biased extrapolation lmao.

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u/aminok 8h ago edited 8h ago

The conclusion is that people who lean towards the Democrats converge to an extreme degree on a wide range of complex topics.

Based on what I understand the word cult to mean, that matches the definition of a cult. Because you can in no way get such extreme conformity of views without cult-like social dynamics.

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