r/PoursTea • u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 • 4h ago
PoliticalTea š³ļø What's in a Name? A Lot Actually!
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u/hugoriffic 4h ago
Does anyone think Trump or his sycophantic administration care?
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u/sweatboxy 3h ago
Or the companies like Google that are anxious to please him in return for mercy.
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u/Idaho-Earthquake 2h ago
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u/sweatboxy 2h ago
Trumpās presidency has āradicalizedā me. Seeing the billionaires, the corrupt corporations, the corrupt institutions kowtow to Trump has convinced me that they are primary threats to democracy and must be contained if freedom is to survive. I never thought anything like that until Trump revealed it.
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u/jigga1383 3h ago
Tell that to the bootlicker running Google. Cunts, all those involved.. Trump, google, the entire Trump administration.
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u/ThelIIusion0fSeIf 3h ago
Trump literally doesn't understand how anything works. LITERALLY ANYTHING. Give me one audio/video clip of him speaking intelligently on any topic without any teleprompting and I'll delete my account. Trump thinks his role as POTUS is to do whatever he wants unilaterally through EOs because he doesn't understand how the legislative process is supposed to work.
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u/Own-Scallion-8713 4h ago
What was the quip he made about someone having intelligence? We need a suit brought up by a lawyer ASAP. They can get this overturned.
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u/No-Koala1918 3h ago
Maybe Google AI missed that. More likely, Google Trumpsuckers just went with their non-existent backbone
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u/AshamedAd4240 2h ago
Incorrect he can legally change the name it just wont be recognized internationally https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/28/trump-lake-ontario-lake-america-explainer/91505554007/
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u/EitherChannel4874 1h ago
He can override and did because still no one is challenging him in any way. America has allowed him to do whatever he wants. If you guys don't like it then do something or enjoy your rapist leader.
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u/LostExile7555 43m ago
You'd think he'd love the name "Ontario" for a lake because it means "The Big, Beautiful Lake."
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u/Individual_Check_442 2h ago
Not that Iām defending Trump but did the 1795 treaty actually say it could never be renamed?
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u/BIayneRobinson 2h ago
No, it doesn't.
It simply mentions the lake and OP thinks that if a place's name is mentioned in a treaty that it can never be changed.
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago
The name of a place being mentioned in a historical document doesnt mean it cannot be changed.
This is like saying that because Istanbul was called Constantinople in some Roman document it can't be called Istanbul today.
It's a silly argument.
He changed the name of the lake in all official US documentation going forward, of course he can't change the past.
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u/OldNeeds 3h ago
Thereās a lawful process. He doesnāt believe in process, nor does he follow it. Heās not a king, he needs to bring this before lawmakers to lawfully change the name. His signature comes after that.
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u/no_kids-and-3_money 3h ago edited 3h ago
Completely missed the entire point of what they were talking about?
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago
What was their point if not "Lake Ontario was mentioned in a treaty, therefore the name cannot be changed"?
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u/no_kids-and-3_money 3h ago
Their point is that a Senate ratified treaty can NEVER be overridden by an executive order. It is becomes āthe supreme law of the landā.
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago
The treaty doesn't establish the name of the lake, it simply mentions the lake.
The lake being mentioned in a historical document does not mean that the lake can't have its name changed.
This is a very stupid argument.
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u/no_kids-and-3_money 3h ago
I donāt care what you think is a stupid argument. Take a civics lesson or something.
It cannot legally override or erase historical names set by sovereign Indigenous treaties or international agreements.
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u/KactusVAXT 3h ago
So you think George Washington was wrong? What part of America are you trying to make great again?
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago edited 3h ago
I'm Canadian; OPs argument is just stupid.
And wtf do you mean "you think George Washington was wrong?".
Do you think I'm saying that when the treaty mentioned Lake Ontario it was wrong?? š
I can't even figure out wtf you're asking.
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u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 3h ago
Ever think that a treaty between adjacent nations is more than a simple "historical" document? It's an agreement that is intended to have an enduring legal effect (at least until Diaper Donnie decides to wipe his arse with it). And the treaty uses Lake Ontario to identify the boundaries of the sovereignty of the respective signators.
Because the U.S. Senate ratified the treaty and George Washington signed it, the agreement remains the supreme law of the land under the U.S. Constitution (see previous clause relating to whether the Constitution is an enduring legal document).
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago
The names of places can be changed without breaking a treaty that mentions the name of the place.
Your idea that because Lake Ontario is named in a treaty that the name cannot be changed is very very stupid.
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u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 3h ago
The first rule of Dunning-Kruger Club is you donāt know youāre a member of Dunning-Kruger Club.
Please tell the class where you obtained your law degree.
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u/BIayneRobinson 3h ago
Said the dunce who thinks that if a place is mentioned in a treaty, it can NEVER have its name changed š¤£
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u/Fast_Adhesiveness528 2h ago
Now ... about that law degree of yours? Trump U? YouTube U?
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u/BIayneRobinson 2h ago
You're saying you have a law degree? š
Which school taught you that "if a place is mentioned in a treaty, that name can NEVER be changed"? š„“
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u/MosquitoValentine_ 3h ago
The Great Lakes came from indigenous tribes. It wasn't named after the Canadian province, but these morons wouldn't know that would they...