Pros & Conscription [OC] - War Never Changes

[u/FacsistGrammarian]

More on my bluesky.

Read the previous entry here!

[u/Corvid187]

TBF the treaty of Vienna did secure 99 years of relative peace.

[u/Commissar_Tarkin → u/Corvid187]

Ah yes, relative peace. Like the Franco-Prussian War. Or the Crimean War. Or the two wars for Schleswig-Holstein. Or the Austro-Prussian war. Or the wars of Italian unification. Or all the colonial wars the participants had...

[u/Decoyx7 → u/Commissar_Tarkin]

Extended wars between great powers.

The Napoleonic wars were as bloody and Armageddon-adjacent as the First Great War was.

These conflicts and wars in the interim that you list were of such small scale, they may hold barely a candle to the utter devestation that was witnessed between the Human Lawnmower wars that saw the beginning and the end of the 19th century.

EDIT: Yeah, I recognize it is an entirely Eurocentric, and also ultimately contradicting perspective. The 19th century was definitely wild times.

[u/Ebony_Phoenix → u/Decoyx7]

1864.The devastation of the Taiping Rebellion was so great that certain Chinese provinces did not recover from the damage until well into the 20th century. It is believed that 20–30 million Chinese soldiers and civilians died during the war.

[u/Corvid187 → u/Ebony_Phoenix]

I don't think that those fighting for a more peaceful future for their children in the Napoleonic Wars included many Chinese people though

[u/Ebony_Phoenix → u/Corvid187]

And? Are Chinese people not people now? Only European wars count now?

[u/Corvid187 → u/Ebony_Phoenix]

The Chinese are people, they just aren't people who participated in the Napoleonic Wars and therefore weren't fighting in them with the hope that the settlement from the conflict would produce a more peaceful future for their children, which is the point of the comic.

[u/Ebony_Phoenix → u/Corvid187]

And what does that has to do with my statement and the one I was commenting on how again? Re read my comment AND the one I was responding to.

[u/Corvid187 → u/Ebony_Phoenix]

The comment you were replying to was talking about extended conflicts between great powers. The Taiping rebellion doesn't fall into that catagory, even if we generously assume 'great powers' doesn't mean the European great powers who actually fought the Napoleonic war.

[u/Ebony_Phoenix → u/Corvid187]

The part i was talking about was the "horrific devastation not seen till WW1".

Ok sure how about the France and Prussia that had a million dead within around a year? Half a million in Crimea? Guess all those don't count either?

[u/Corvid187 → u/Ebony_Phoenix]

I think it is pretty clear that the common you are replying to is speaking with specific reference to the examples given by the commenter prior to them, focusing on Wars within Europe during that period.

As I think I said elsewhere, I don't think that the Franco pressure war did generate a million dead within a year. They count obviously, but they are still the most notable of a series of relatively minor exemptions to the overall trend of great power peace, and notably came over half a century after the vienna settlement

[u/Ebony_Phoenix → u/Corvid187]

Again, look it up instead of "i don't think so". 50 years is far less than 99. Having to make excuses and exemptions continues to point out how arbitrary your point is.