r/depression Oct 29 '19

Our most-broken and least-understood rules is "helpers may not invite private contact as a first resort", so we've made a new wiki to explain it

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We understand that most people who reply immediately to an OP with an invitation to talk privately mean only to help, but this type of response usually leads to either disappointment or disaster. it usually works out quite differently here than when you say "PM me anytime" in a casual social context.

We have huge admiration and appreciation for the goodwill and good citizenship of so many of you who support others here and flag inappropriate content - even more so because we know that so many of you are struggling yourselves. We're hard at work behind the scenes on more information and resources to make it easier to give and get quality help here - this is just a small start.

Our new wiki page explains in detail why it's much better to respond in public comments, at least until you've gotten to know someone. It will be maintained at /r/depression/wiki/private_contact, and the full text of the current version is below.


Summary

Anyone who, while acting as a helper, invites or accepts private contact (I.e. PMs, chat, or any kind of offsite communication) early in the conversion is showing either bad intentions or bad judgement. Either way, it's unwise to trust them.

"PM me anytime" seems like a kind and generous offer. And it might be perfectly well-meaning, but, unless and until a solid rapport has been established, it's just not a wise idea. Here are some points to consider before you offer or accept an invitation to communicate privately.

  • By posting supportive replies publicly, you'll help more people than just the OP. If your responses are of good quality, you'll educate and inspire other helpers. The 1-9-90 rule applies here as much as it does anywhere else on the internet.

  • People who are struggling with serious mental-health issues often (justifiably) have a low tolerance for disappointment and a high-level of ever-changing emotional need. Unless the helper is able to make a 100% commitment to be there for them in every way, for as long as necessary, offering a personal inbox as a resource is likely to do more harm than good. This is why mental-health crisis-line responders usually don't give their names and callers aren't allowed to request specific responders. It's much healthier and safer for the callers to develop a relationship with the agency as a whole. Analogously, it's much safer and healthier for our OPs to develop a relationship with the community as a whole. Even trained responders are generally not allowed to work high-intensity situations alone. It's partly about availability, but it's mostly about wider perspective and preventing compassion fatigue.

  • If a helper gets in over their head with someone whose mental-health issues (including suicidality, which is often comorbid with depression) escalate, in a PM conversation it's much harder for others, including the /r/depression and /r/SuicideWatch moderators to help. (Contrary to common assumptions, moderators can't see or police PMs.)

  • In our observation over many years, the people who say "PM me" the most are consistently the ones with the least understanding of mental-health issues and mental-health support. We all have gaps in our knowledge and in our ability to communicate effectively. Community input mitigates these limitations. There's no reason why someone who's truly here to help would want to hide their responses from community scrutiny. If helpers are concerned about their own privacy, keep in mind that self-disclosure, when used supportively, is more about the feelings than the details, and that we have no problem here with the use of alt/throwaway accounts, and have no restrictions on account age or karma.

  • We all know the internet is used by some people to exploit or abuse others. These people do want to hide their deceptive and manipulative responses from everyone except their victims. There are many of them who specifically target those who are vulnerable because of mental-health issues. If a helper invites an OP to talk privately and gives them a good, supportive experience, they've primed that person to be more vulnerable to abusers. This sort of cognitive priming tends to be particularly effective when someone's in a state of mental-health crisis, when people rely more on heuristics than critical reasoning.

  • If OPs want to talk privately, posting on a wide-open anonymous forum like reddit might not be the best option. Although we don't recommend it, we do allow OPs to request private contact when asking for support. If you want to do this, please keep your expectations realistic, and to have a careful look at the history of anyone who offers to PM before opening up to them.


r/depression May 18 '26

Check-In post, with essential info about our policies and resources. Most people are surprised by much of this information, please read carefully before posting or commenting

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Welcome to /r/depression's check-in post - a place to take a moment and share what is going on and how you are doing. If you're having a tough time but prefer not to make your own post, or have an accomplishment you want to talk about (these aren't allowed standalone posts in the sub as they violate the "role model" rule), this is a place you can share.


Our subreddit rules are very different from most of the rest of reddit! Since all of them exist for important reasons, we ask everyone here to read and follow them. Please click 'report' on any harmful content you see here - we always want to know and deal as soon as we can.

We also have several resource wikis for help with finding and giving support:

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/what_is_depression provides guidance about what is and isn't a depressive disorder, guidance on the complex nature of the illnesses that are usually grouped under the "depression" label, and redirect information for common off-topic issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/giving_help offers information on the nature and value of peer support for mental-health issues in general, and lots of guidance for learning what is -- and isn't -- usually helpful in giving peer support.

YSK that the types of rule violations that we most frequently see here are:

  • People breaking the private contact rule. You should never trust anyone who tries to get you into a private conversation in response to a post here. See https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/private_contact

  • "I'm here to help" posts. This shows that you don't understand the most basic principles of peer support, especially selectivity. The "giving help" wiki explains more about this.

  • Role modelling, i.e. "achievement" or "advice" posts. This is an expert-free zone -- that's what peer support means (rule 5). We know that "internet culture" celebrate not just bragging about your achievements but bragging about your intentions. Neither is ever acceptable here in any form.

  • Content that's more about 'making a statement' or casually polling the sub than seeking personal support (rules 1, 2 and 10).

  • Off-topic posts about difficult situations, including interpersonal issues. Grief, sadness, anger, loneliness and other difficult emotions are not mental illnesses. Feelings that can be explained by person's circumstances are perfectly healthy no matter how painful they are. A depressive disorder only exists when someone's mood is out of synch with what's going on for them. The "what is depression" wiki linked above has suggestions for other places to post about these issues, which are 100% valid and serious but do NOT belong here.


r/depression 1h ago

28f. I feel hopeless. I wish I lived in a fantasy world.

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The older I get, the more unhappier I become. I know it’s up to me to better myself, but I see the point less and less as the years go on. I’m full of dread, fear, and worthlessness.

Escapism into fantasy worlds is my only relief at times, but in a way that ends up making me more depressed, knowing those worlds are unachievable.

Just needed a vent somewhere.. sorry y’all.


r/depression 9h ago

My dad saw my house yesterday

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And i'm totally horrified and humiliated. I've been hiding how bad i've gotten lately, isolated myself from friends and family until i can get my shit together and show my face again. But my dad came over to look for a tool he needed to borrow in my house, while i was at work, and he didn't tell me. I have a good relationship with him and he's always been welcome to come and go whenever, but he usually lets me know he's coming. I think he did it on purpose because he knows i've been struggling lately and i haven't been talking to him much or letting him in my house when he stops by.

I called him this morning and told him i wish he had let me know what he needed instead of just coming in my house. I said i'm embarassed by how nasty i've let my house become and i know i'm a failure. He apologized and said he didn't see anything wrong with my house, but i know he was lying to try to make me feel better. It stinks, i have a cat and his litter box was full, destroyed blinds i haven't replaced yet, sink full of dishes, clothes all over the floor, trash on the counters, floors and bathrooms haven't been cleaned in a couple months. It's awful.

I don't know what to do. I'm in my 30s and i think past trauma and untreated depression has caught up with me. The problem is i can't afford treatment. I can't afford insurance, and i'm barely able to keep up with my bills and buy food. So i think my only way out is to find the strength to pull myself out of it. I'm trying but it's been getting worse. The humiliation isn't helping.


r/depression 5h ago

I can't do it anymore

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Life sucks, i hate myself and nothing makes me want to get up in the morning anymore


r/depression 8h ago

How do people continue living without support?

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Absent family, no friends and no partners? Is it possible to live happily, completely alone and isolated?


r/depression 4h ago

I think I’m grieving a version of myself that I can’t get back.

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I don’t know what happened to me lately.
I used to have things I looked forward to. Little things, even. I had interests, excitement, motivation.
Now I wake up and everything feels strangely dull. I keep waiting for that feeling of wanting something again, and it just doesn’t come.
And then there’s my appearance sometimes I look in the mirror and I don’t see myself. I just see everything I’ve been feeling reflected back at me.
Today I looked at myself and genuinely didn’t want to keep looking.

Then I got a message that pissed me off more than I wish it had.
Maybe it wasn’t even that serious. Maybe another person would’ve read it and forgotten about it five minutes later. But it hit me at exactly the wrong time, when I was already feeling fragile, and suddenly all the things I had been trying not to think about came rushing back.
And that’s the part that hurts the most.

It feels like I’m already struggling to be kind to myself, and somehow the smallest thing can make me turn against myself all over again.
I miss myself.
Not some perfect version of myself. Just me.
The person who could look in a mirror without immediately picking herself apart. The person who could get excited about something without forcing it. The person who didn’t feel like she was constantly trying to catch up with a version of herself that disappeared somewhere along the way.
I don’t know when I became this tired.
I just know that today, for some reason, it feels heavier than usual.
And I really, really wish I could look at myself and feel like I’m looking at someone I know.


r/depression 10h ago

The only time I'm ever happy is when I'm dreaming.

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I mean literally asleep. I wonder what that says about me.


r/depression 3h ago

Activities without hands

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Hi. I'm feeling really desperate and depressed. I have a disability that makes it almost impossible for me to do things with my hands for longer than 25 minutes. My Arms, wrists, hands and fingers hurt all the time. I can't even use a gaming controller because the sticks and buttons hurt my fingers so bad. I also cannot do real sports because exhausting activities make my body hurt. Taking a walk is ok or dancing for a couple minutes. I have lost my job because of the disability so I'm just sitting at home every day, go to doctors appointments sometimes and read and watch TV.

I started hating reading, shows and music because I have no other ideas for activities with my disability. I also started hating walks. I'm so frustrated and unhappy and have lost my purpose.

Does anyone have any ideas for activities with these special circumstances?

For your information, I've recently started therapy but it's just in the beginning so it's not helping anything yet.


r/depression 5h ago

when dying isn’t an option

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I would like to die.

I am 28 and I have been struggling with this since I was 8.

I have medicated. I have done so much therapy. I have done spiritual and religious routes for comfort and inner peace.

Around 25/26 I had a very serious series of attempts that lead to me be hospitalized. Inside of the hospital continued trying to kill myself so much I wasn’t allowed to shower alone for a week bc I would take that time to beat myself against the wall.

My mom visited me during that hospital stay and we had a very serious talk. My mom has had a hard and bad life. Not her exact words, but she said she wouldn’t be okay if died. That she couldn’t the rock if that happened. And she asked me not to do it.

I don’t kill myself for her. We made an agreement I wait until one my brothers set up to help the other after she dies and I get to go too.

Sometimes I get so mad at my mom making me make this promise to her. I know she’s just doing that what’s right and best but I just want to be here. I just would like to go now. I’m tired of fighting. I’m so tired of having to everyone else ahead of me always to accommodate them. Even in death I cannot be selfish. That’s how much the women in my family must suffer for the comforts of others.

The ultimate dream is I visit a doctor’s office and then I explain I have done x, y, z they do some tests to confirm. They give me the option of treatment plan or humane death. I choose death. They give me medication and I die. They contact my family and have grief specialists walk them through the next steps. They explain the my family how much how it got to be truly my choice.

I don’t want them deviated and I don’t want this pain to transfer to them. I want them to get help and be okay.

I want to leave them a letter and tell them to listen for me in that hum sound bees make in yard when they’re clustering on our wisteria. And I would tell them I’m sorry and that I love them.

There’s prolly hella typos sorry I’m not rereading it I was crying plus dyslexic. I’m ok I just wish I could go


r/depression 2h ago

I have no one

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Can someone at least pretend to care


r/depression 7h ago

Seems impossible to actually start from nothing after 40

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Often, when I try to search for words or guidance on this topic or discuss where I am in life and why I am depressed, a lot of the inspirational stories seem to be about someone who had already built a life and scaffolding and needed to recover from a setback. Or the guidance is really more like a permission slip to use the resources you were likely leaning on all along. It often just makes me feel worse. I am totally at rock bottom and all I can think of is ending it.

Anyway, this is just me venting. I just had to let it out somewhere.


r/depression 2h ago

Hi Guys. I'm 26M, Turning 27 Next Year, But Feels Like I'm Too Late.

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I don't why the time flies by, and I feel like I'm too old.

I can't stop thinking that I'm aged, socially isolated(ofc never dated a girl), and failed myself.

I should have realized that the time is the most valuable thing before 20s. I'm actually in my tears while I'm writing this post. I regret deeply about the past.


r/depression 2h ago

I lie awake

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I lie awake.
Distant angry voices of the past echo in my head.
I keep hearing them as they keep me awake.
Afraid of the monsters in my head.
Afraid of the pain that lies ahead.

I lie awake.
Memories that haunt and destroy everything in their wake.
But again I learn that all my friends were fake.
That their patience was thin and their ego’s as thick as cake.

I lie awake.
Alone in silence I must take.
These bitter pills to keep my smile a fake.
Not know how that this time it’s going to make or break.

I lie awake.
Fear and emptiness is now my make.
How much more must I take.
Until there is no more and I break.


r/depression 3h ago

Depression made me obsessed with my apperance

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I was diagnosed with depression when I was around 8 years old. I’m 27 now.
I was abused and mostly ignored growing up. I didn’t have many friends and spent a lot of time at home playing video games because real life always felt painful.
From a very young age, I started noticing how much appearance seemed to matter. I watched other guys my age get attention from girls, be treated better socially, and even seem to get more positive attention from teachers, while I mostly felt invisible. It didn’t help that I was extremely shy and skinny.
I remember often coming home from school, putting a chair in front of the mirror, and just sitting there looking at myself. I genuinely believed that if I had simply been born better-looking, everything would have been easier — making friends, being treated like a normal human being, getting attention from girls, feeling wanted.
This was long before all the current internet obsession with looks became mainstream.
At some point, I made it my mission to become more attractive. I got heavily into fitness, not because I loved training or cared about the sport itself, but purely for cosmetic reasons.
And the fucked-up part is: it worked.
For the first time, I started getting some attention, respect, compliments, and admiration. Nothing else I had done before seemed to change how people treated me as much as something as stupid and superficial as building a better body.
It wasn’t anything crazy. I didn’t suddenly become popular or desirable to everyone. It was more like going from complete invisibility to finally getting a little bit of attention.
And over the years, I kept seeing things that reinforced this belief.
You meet some guy who is 6’4”, handsome, tattooed, confident, and suddenly he seems to have friends, women, attention, admiration — all the things I desperately wanted. I would hear people talk about attractive people in exactly the way I wished someone would talk about me.
I wanted that admiration. I wanted to feel chosen. I wanted to feel like I was finally enough.
And it never really stopped.
I’m still obsessed with appearance. It makes me jealous and miserable, but in a strange way it also gives me hope. Because part of me keeps thinking: if I can somehow reach a certain level of attractiveness, maybe then I’ll finally be enough. Maybe then I’ll finally be chosen. Maybe then someone will actually love me.
Obviously I know personality matters too. But sometimes I wonder: how are you supposed to develop this healthy, confident, lovable personality when your entire foundation was neglect, rejection, insecurity, and constantly feeling like you weren’t enough?
I feel like people carry their childhood with them for their entire lives. I’ve met people who are 50, 60, 70 years old and you can still see how much of their personality was built around things that happened to them when they were young.
Maybe that’s what scares me the most.
That I can change my body, my hair, my clothes, my face, my career, my social skills — everything on the outside — and still have that same kid sitting in front of the mirror somewhere inside me, wondering what he has to change before someone finally thinks he’s worth choosing.
Sorry for the ramble. I just needed to get this off my chest.


r/depression 1h ago

I’m so done.

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I don’t think I’ll be able to explain anyone what’s going on with me and whatever i say people just say it’s not something worth worrying. But i am. And there’s nothin i can do about it.
I just want to quit. I want to leave. I am so done.


r/depression 1h ago

Getting in a deep depressive state after rejection

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Hi, I 26M have had chronic depression and anxiety for over 10 years. I also got diagnosed with ocd 2 years ago and also have an autoimmune illness since I was 18.

A bit about myself: I have no friends, no social life, not a lot of family and can't do most of the things people my age do because of my illness. I have been receiving medical treatment for my mental health for 10 years and have also been in therapy for 5 years now and I don't feel like a lot has changed.

I have a good job with some nice colleagues but I developed a crush on a colleague and I found out today that she is dating someone else. I told her how i felt some months ago and she said that she was going through a breakup and that she also didn't want to mix professional and personal life.

After I heard the news today, I got really depressed and anxious. I started sweating, my hands were trembling and I didn't feel well so I called in sick for the rest of the day.

The issue I have is that I don't know what to do when I get these depressive phases in my life. I feel things so deeply that I then lose all motivation in my life and just want to waste away. I then also get so depressed and emotionally drained from all of this that I can't cope at work and have to call in sick. Bear in mind that I only know her from work and we don't even talk often.

I feel like a loser and just want to disappear and isolate myself. I really want a good and happy life but I haven't felt really happy for the past few years. When I am in that depressive state, I also start feeling guilty for wasting my best years away but I just don't know how to fix this. I have no one in my life besides my parents and my sister and nothing going for me. How can I ever be truly happy if nothing good happens. How can I go back to work and not feel like a complete idiot and not feel anxious and depressed all the time. When I feel like this, I can't work properly and this annoys me so much. My mind is just flooded with so many things at once and I can't tell what they are


r/depression 2h ago

There is not a single soul that cares for me anymore...

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Plain and simple: there is no one on this earth or in my life that really cares about me.

My parents and family are no bad people, but all caught up in their own problems. Friends don't ask how i feel or how I'm doing. If i bring up the subject on my own, they dismiss it quickly with "ah, you're fine, you can't feel that bad!"

I assume, if I disappear tomorrow, maybe my colleagues will notice. If I tell them I'm on a spontaneous vacation, nobody will notice I'm gone for maybe two weeks or so.

And that makes me really, really sad on one side. On the other, I more and more feel the urge to "proof it"...


r/depression 2h ago

Im just existing, not living

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What the title says. I just exist but add no value to this society. I have nothing to give and just feel hopeless. Im not made for this world and i dont know how mych longer i will be able to survive. Im alone here. I dont know what to do with myself and my existence. I have no degree, no job, no money. Nothing. Im doing therapy but it doesnt seem to help and i dont think anything will help and that im alone stuck with my rotten mind and its thoughts. I don’t think ill ever able to function normally and find meaning of life. Theres so much going on in my brain that i dont even know where to start. I hate that im so broken


r/depression 29m ago

Feeling overwhelmed

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Just writing to vent, but just renewed my IT certificates and I feel like a loser. I got divorced 5 years ago while getting my IT certs to give a better quality life for my kids and to be able to spend time with the family (I used to travel a lot for work and barely got to spend time with family). While I was in another state getting my certs my ex wife cheated on me and try to take my rights as father so her new BF can be the dad to my kids. I stopped it, got a lawyer and everything but felt like everything was for nothing. I remember getting a 250k+ job and turning it down because of my kids. It was a dream job but it required me moving. I live comfortably now since I pivoted away from IT and more into managerial since the IT market is crashing. My dream was always to get a degree and now I don't like IT anymore like I used to.

I associate it with the bad time for my divorce. Working long hours, crying because my ex would call me and say disgusting things to me (I blocked her number for that reason and use a parenting app). Now I just want to chill and play video games. I don't want to do anything else. It was nicer when I worked from home I spent so much time with my kids but now I'm back in the office and I hate it. I hate working in the office with all the people there and how uncomfortable the chairs are.

Everytime I want to study for new certification or get my degree a massive shadow of sadness comes over me and I can't. Took me until today while renewing why I have been feeling this way. I was afraid I was going to lose my certs but I remember I took some courses for a cert I never pursued and was able to get my CPE.

I am not happy with my life. I think is because I don't want to work in IT anymore.

It's been my dream to work in IT since I was a teenager and now it's associated with all these terrible things. :'( another thing ruined.


r/depression 7h ago

It's over for me and I want to die

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I wasted my life in a relationship that made me feel like I'm responsible for someone else's survival. I bound myself to a city I hate, am stuck on a PhD. I missed everything and there is no way I'll ever feel ok about it. Not having dated while young, not having just hung out with new people or friends while it's easy, just her, nothing for myself because when I tried to fill my time, she'd just do nothing and start fights from afar. My whole adult life was that insane relationship and nothing else. It ended insanely, literal hell for years.

I missed everything, I am too old for everything and I'll never feel ok about not having been myself, just a pathetic, nervous nothing who hasn't lived and it's too late. I have been in therapy, I'm fit af... I had a breakdown which made me harm myself and took my sleep. I got medication for that and got addicted to sleeping. Now I'm other medication and don't sleep anymore. I just want it to be all over. I don't want the next decades, nothing about life looks appealing to me having missed being young.


r/depression 15h ago

Brain fog and recurring sadness

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Aside from the hopelessness or regular stuff, being brain fogged all the time drags me out of any goodness I may feel. I’ve lost my inner world, any of that internal dialogue I had, and just my ability to critically think about subjects. My word processing is much slower, harder time remembering things, struggling with word retrieval. I’m already low on motivation, but even if I can garner it, I’m always blank, emotionally and cognitively. My memorizations slow and anything I’m told feels like it’s just passing through a bubble, in one ear and out the other. When it comes to physical tasks I can probably force my impatience away and zone out to complete something, but if I truly had to focus I would lose being told anything for more than five minutes. This was always my favorite part of myself and now I’m just brain blah all the time.

Typically I would say that I experience this shallow sadness but it’s growing heavy in my eyes and I just truly need words of support. Starting to drown again


r/depression 3h ago

I’m angry.

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I’m angry at a system that failed me.
I’m angry at anybody who made my feelings feel small and insignificant, just because it’s not socially acceptable that a 26 years old person is depressed.
I’m angry to myself because I work in a hospital where I see people at their utmost vulnerability, and I wish I could trade with them because they probably deserve this more than I do, to be ALIVE.
I’m angry at my family for denying my pain, because they give me everything so I have no reason to be in pain.
I’m angry at my partner because god forbid they google about it and try to understand.
I’m angry at myself because I make my pain loud yet goes unheard, yet still feels a burden, an inconvenience, so lame to have a sad girlfriend, daughter.
Yeah because it’s just sadness.
Sure.
I’m angry because there’s no sympathetic hand pulling me out of it but mine, and I tried and failed and tried again.
I have no reason to be “sad” just as I have no reason to exist. Yet I can’t leave despite trying.
I’m angry and I need help.