I feel like we're moving to a bunch of disgruntled Genshin 2.0 fans who continue to pray for their ex game's downfall.
It's just not happening if the game is majority casuals and if they continue to enjoy the story and characters well there's nothing to be done about that.
The people malding are not the game intended audience (anymore) and the paying playerbase are completely fine.
Like the QOLs they add to the game indicates that. As long as they are satisfied with the story, the revenue is actually quite healthy. In fact they are more similar to FGO than other top gacha now, a glorified visual novel.
Lets be real here, No one fking play FGO for the gameplay.
3t 90++ = getting all meta supports.
Beating story bosses = getting all meta supports.
Beating CQ quest = getting all meta support.
Game playwise it's HSR.
Fgo has better stages/CQ design.
HSR (Robin) actually under performed pretty hard in CN. Robin is a very popular character with strong power creep. In the past this would be a $50 million month but it’s not even $30 million. In CN charts she’d have reached top 2 or top 3 in the past. This time she only reached top 7 with a rapid fall off (7->13->23 in the first 3 days). Right now it’s sitting close to 70 just a week after banner start.
But JP saved her banner. JP is the type not to care about predatory tactics, but I want to emphasize that’s true for pretty much any gacha JP plays since they’re used to it. CN is not & the fall off has been notable.
FGO proved that gacha players are masochists. Still financially supporting the most predatory mainstream gacha to ever exist
Genshin is still making bucks because they have the biggest playerbase among all gachas. They're being carried by monthly card buyers alone regardless of banner.
HSR once again proved that a game catered to working dads with 32 kids and 7 full time jobs will bring in money. What endgame? What powercreep? Just login daily for 5 minutes and pull/spend for the newest units! It's that easy.
ZZZ is now on the rollercoaster of 'We're so back' and 'It's all over". I honestly don't know how to predict what's next for it.
Wuwa still fumbling with Mengzhou story and also once again releasing a male before a highly anticipated female. RIP Jingran
NTE and Endfield now on the spotlight to see which one is a more desirable slop.
LADS deserved what they got. Preferrably if they are in the red, but whatever.
CZN holding on for dear life. But knowing Smilegate, they aren't the type to hover around Top 10, not even during E7 glory days. Will the upcoming anniversary save it? Stay tuned.
Nikke should stop doing collabs altogether and just release their own top tier goon units.
Even if you check PS ranking endfield and NTE revenue there are world's apart. Let's be real after zhuang fangyi and that long dead ass 2nd half killed the momentum.
And? I don't care? I'll still not play AI slop? I'm not stopping people from playing AI slop. People not caring about playing AI slop is not going to make me say good words about it. I'm not earning all that money anyway.
I would defo say NTE won the battle. In spite of how low effort I consider it to be, it had a way more succesful launch, has had more content to enjoy and a seemingly liked story
I think it makes a better first impression. The characters have more personality even if they are anime cliches and the life sim stuff has more appeal.
Void hunter banner released last month and the majority of sales are in the first 3 days of the banner based on pulling trends from all 3 modern Hoyo games.
I mean there’s going to be a decent amount of carry over. The banner released just before the start of the month, so the first week is split between two months. We’ve seen this with previous void hunters. Either yixuan or ysg’s first week was split between two months and lo and behold, the second month did better than average.
It’s not like Sigrun is some miracle case.
Might be anecdotal evidence but my experience is that players are more interested in doing exploration and world quest in Genshin, whereas a huge portion of HSR playerbase is story and gone repeat every update.
Like some even opt out of dailies entirely, and just swipe for the character.
yeah but only like once every two days, the other day you gotta spend that resin unless you're doing enchantment ores which you'll need to collect crystals anyway
Eh, doing domain can go for less than three minutes. Farming crystalfly is easier now, especially in Nod-Krai where they can give you two by capturing one and move even slower than the ordinary crystalfly.
ZZZ is now on the rollercoaster of 'We're so back' and 'It's all over". I honestly don't know how to predict what's next for it.
Idk about that. Patches 2.6-3.1 have been a hit with community so far.
Mostly, it's just random tourists trying to create drama out of nowhere, like that very recent controversy surrounding the departure of one of designers
Its better than early 2.0 fosho, Gotta wait until 3.4/3.5 to judge tho. And for A2 departure people gotta read man he leave on very good term(maybe consulting sometime in the future) and certainly train other artist to fill his role
I mean yeah, tbh i kinda hate zzz at first but then looking at my fiancee playing it, the combat draw me in instantly. Also they added banyue as FG enthusiast gotta grab the him, also fuck promeia she shafted my lion rerun.
Time for copers positivity response
1. FGO has 1% rates, all main Chinese gacha have less than 1%! Check mate
2. Genshin gives players a reason to roll for older characters because their designs are just peak, it's not just monthly cards
3. The powercreeps has slowed down, if you are a long time player you'll have enough teams to clear end game anyway, only people that don't play the game then cry can't clear in HSR
4. ZZZ is bigger on PC and console than mobile, I wouldn't be surprised if it has already surpassed HSR in revenue, the only thing HSR has over ZZZ is female player base, which is dwindling every month
5. Mengzhou story didn't fumble, people just hate China, Jiyan was before Yinlin, Brant before Cantarella, Qiuyan before Chisa, Luuk before Sigrika, that male before big female character is a ZZZ trait not a wuwa one
6. NTE is slop, but AKE is just too cool and complex for casuals, rather than slop, it's a masterpiece painting only appreciated by a few
7. LADS deserves redemption, women need a win In the gacha space
8. CZN takes way less money to maintain than E7, less work goes into their character animations and they use a lot of AI to help workflows these days
9. Persona is a dead up for gacha, those players don't play gacha
Endfield will never reach higher numbers than it did during the launch patch and the player base will keep shrinking overtime. The only way that changes is if their playerbase stops defending its flawed half baked gameplay but thats not going to happen anymore because currently only the hivemind players are left in endfield community and no one wants to interact with them anymore.
If I were still in Stella Sora discord server, I would be guaranteed to see agenda cooking especially that dude that always brings up CZN lmao. Alas, the server and subreddit banned revenue talks so hopefully he stopped the tribalistic attitude.
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u/luciluci5562 9h ago
So far still no pvp-worthy results, but I'll wait for anyone to cook up an agendapost lmao