r/motorcycles • u/Low-Dragonfruit9646 • 15h ago
Doing everything right and still getting taken out
You can ride perfectly and still get hit by someone staring at their phone. Watch your mirrors and always leave yourself an escape path. Stay safe out there.
Location somewhere in turkey
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u/puff-d-magicdragon 14h ago
Car driver was not focused on driving...
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u/DeltaGrunder 4h ago edited 3h ago
Not just drivers, riders too. 90% of riders in my country use automatics and thus do stupid shit like watch videos while riding in city traffic. Really makes the intrusive thoughts come in when I see at least one person doing this when I ride/drive through town.
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u/Educational_Board_51 15h ago
I don't know if there was much you could have done differently to avoid this.
Hope you are ok mate and hope the bike gets repaired soon and you back on the road.
btw the person who hit you is a P.O.S
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u/the_ism_sizism 14h ago
Riding closer to the parked car would be it, but it leaves you at risk of getting doored.
Driver probably on phone.
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u/de_das_dude gixxar 13h ago
Definitely doom scrolling on insta.
The amt of people who do this shit is scary
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u/the_ism_sizism 12h ago
It’s frightening dude, I watch them all the time in my job as a heavy vehicle operator. Just both hands texting, watching vids, liking FB posts. Had a truck driver give me a thumbs up after I tooted him because he was watching YouTube’s on his phone.
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u/Educational_Board_51 14h ago
Driver was definitely distracted. I would be hesitant to stop on the car side because you run the risk of being slammed into a car and more injure + more potential damage.
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u/rareandyeteuclidian 12h ago
Car side usually involves someone opening a door and killing you / landing you In the hospital. This is a rare "nothing really could have been done"
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u/PotatoGamerXxXx 14h ago
Closer to the middle of two lane makes you more likely to be blocked by A pillar on a car. It's a shit show with no one to blame but the car.
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u/Poor__cow 02 Harley V-Rod, 05 KX450F 8h ago
Not stopping for the pedestrian is the real answer but I don’t know if it would’ve been correct technically based on local laws.
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u/OffWhiteBruceForsyth 14h ago
There's always things you can do to make situations like this less likely to happen. Sometimes they just happen anyway.
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u/Educational_Board_51 14h ago
While I do agree with you, in this case I really don't see anything that could have been done to mitigate the incident.
If there had been a second lane, then sure. Personally I always try and stop on the lane line or there abouts. Just in case someone doesn't feel like looking where they should be looking.
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u/anotherNarom 13h ago edited 13h ago
What was interesting to me is this is the first self uploaded crash video edited like it's on TikTok. Showing us the crash, then the whole lead up + crash again
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u/Sancticide 11h ago
That and the black bars that make you watch it vertically, even though the actual video is landscape. JFC.
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u/forrest4thetrees 7h ago
I turned my phone sideways to see more detail... Nope, video gets smaller.
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u/EasyBend 12h ago
Looked for this comment!
Why the fuck are we seeing the crash before the rest of the video like some sort of brain rot content. Keep that shit off here
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u/Relevant_Glass_9198 9h ago
I'm starting to notice a lot of non-marketing people suddenly having tiktok/shorts brain. A behavior learned purely from consuming too many short-form content themselves.
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u/AntalRyder 1290 SuperDuke | XJ600S Diversion 7h ago
I don't understand it, but the downvote is immediate.
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u/Roy_McDunno VFR 750, VTR 1000 14h ago
That really sucks.
Szar Trek has a nice quote:
You can do everything right and still lose. That's called 'life'.
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u/CertifiedSoft 8h ago
“It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.” - Jean Luc Picard in S2E21 of Star Trek Next Gen
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u/Diss_Respect 12h ago
This is where I live. Never in a billion years I would have imagined I would see Kurtköy/Pendik in this Sub but I should also say that I am not suprised.
People here drive like maniacs, eventhough it is relatively less congested and less populated than the rest of Istanbul. I always tell this to people when they want to start riding motorbikes in Istanbul;
Most people in Istanbul that are in trafic know how to operate their respective vehicles(Bus, Truck, Car, Motorbike...). However, almost nobody knows the rules of the trafic. Its basically everyone driving and riding with little to no regard for rules of the trafic...
Get well soon and ride safe. -Geçmiş olsun
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u/Potential_Tonight_17 14h ago
I almost never stop in the middle of a lane for this exact reason. Even when I'm Infront I pull to the side like I'm lane splitting.
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u/Hankol S1000R 14h ago
It’s mandatory to stop at zebra crossings. At least in my country.
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u/the_ism_sizism 14h ago
He means stop in centre of lane, not continuing despite the pedestrian.
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u/aandy611 14h ago
100% driver was distracted not looking ahead. Please can we have tougher laws, just instant loss of licence for years and jail time. Motorcycle list could have died or paralysed
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u/StickyNotesEater 15h ago
This happens very often in the roads, that's why always check the mirors if im going to let a pedestrian cross or give the pass to another vehicle, If something is coming behind me, sorry but I wont stop. I preffer being called a dick than let a moron rear end me because they dont know how to drive. An indeed, you were doing the correct thing, but the roads are full of dumb f*cks.
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u/EquivalentFishing 14h ago
It does look like this guy even checks his mirrors before slowing down. Absolute moron behind him, very likely on their phone.
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u/theonly_salamander 10h ago
I hate these videos that show 2s of action and then cut back.
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u/Hutches_Corduroy 10h ago
Glad the end was at the beginning, saved me the time of watching the whole thing. Gotta be the worst video trend.
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u/MonkinVideos 10h ago
Sorry this happened. Hope you and the bike recover. Freaking idiot driver.
I ride in the PH, where zebra crossings are basically optional. I’ve had close calls stopping for pedestrians and almost getting rear-ended — in a car.
On a bike the risk is worse.
If I have to slow or stop at a crossing now, I take the side of the lane, not the middle, and I check mirrors before I’m fully committed. Rear-end likelihood is higher than people think.
You can do the legal/right thing and still need an escape path.
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u/LonelyReader95 9h ago
Dude, Italy here and same. I literally avoided two days ago getting rear ended because I constantly look at my mirrors when stopping. I bought my new bike three weeks ago...geez people are just plain fucking dumb.
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u/aaronjohns 7h ago
"Think of how stupid the average person is and realize half of them are stupider than that." -Carlin
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u/Quick-Penalty4883 5h ago
Who invented this idiotic format of showing the last part of the video first?
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u/Patient-Video6979 11h ago
I gotta say, when I'm riding on the Interstate (in the U.S.) it is HARROWING how many people I glance at in the next lane and they're doing like 75mph looking down at their phones and not even glancing up at the road at ALL.
And they have NO IDEA how far they travel without looking at the road ahead of them.
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u/CasiyRoseReddits 14h ago
I can't believe so many people nearby like started walking over to make sure motorcycle dude was okay! And that the vehicle behind the white car didn't just go around the accident! Like they actually give a fuck 😭
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u/ManDan_666 13h ago
Damn son hope you and your bike are fine. This is the scariest situation for me.
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u/J1mj0hns0n 11h ago
Yep. Assume everyone on the road is asleep at the wheel and act accordingly, because no one is paying as much attention as you'd hope, and half as much as you would think mandatory
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u/noxaeternus1 7h ago
I had this happen in Istanbul. Literally stopped at a red traffic light (in a car fortunately) and guy behind me just slammed into me. He then had the balls to have a go at me saying WHY DID YOU STOP! Pedestrian crossings and red lights seem to be for decoration.
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u/Mister_Brevity 6h ago
Happened to me on a Grom. Guy behind was watching tik tok on his phone and I was stopped in front of him. I had front brake on nice and tight and he heard another lane go and just…. Hit the gas without looking up. Broke my bike in half under me - the front brake held, the frame snapped under the seat and pushed up. It was like getting kicked in the balls by god - but after he stopped and I’m standing in the middle of the street with my several-inches-shorter from under me I was like…. That’s it? I got a bruised “under carriage (not recommended!)” and a destroyed bike but I didn’t even fall.
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u/generalkkaos 6h ago
Common norm in Turkey that in pedestrians crossings cars ceoss pedesteians wait. Unfortunately when i am approaching a pedesteian cross, i check my mirrors, if there is a car behind me, i dont stop. Sad but true,i dont want get hit
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u/Friendly-Turnover262 6h ago
Well, if it weren’t for the motorcycle he might have killed the pedestrian… either way the white car is a complete tool.
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u/Ciccio3102 3h ago
I'm sorry and I know it's wrong but I've seen too many of this tipe of incident. Every time there's a crossing, unless it's a full on people barrier I'll always (slowly) squeeze through. These situations happens based on the fact that the car drivers, knows it's a junction free road and doesn't expect a bike suddenly stopping.
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u/Hour-Imagination5041 2h ago
I’m actually to the point that I don’t stop to let people go unless I’m required to. I hate the idea of that happening to me
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u/Twisterpa 2h ago
After 15 years of riding and one of the most important facts I realized is to ride permanently on the lines of the road.
People aren't used to seeing the liminality of it. They see me on the line more because it is a transitory space. Whether they "like it or not" they see me more.
It is just far safer. You are closer to cars technically. However, you essentially isolate the events that can realistically happen to you and YOU are in the mirror of the car near the line you are currently on.
Cars do not set their mirrors properly and bikes are invisible in the center of the lane from both sides.
- This never happens, or rarely does if you're on the line. The most common type of accident is this type of accident and fuck that.
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u/CarlosG0619 1200 Triple Enjoyer 24m ago
I cant wait for self driving cars to be mandatory, people cant drive for shit
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u/ConsciousSpirit397 13h ago
This is a big reason for me that riding is not really reasonable. It’s not just you that must never make a mistake, it’s that you have to trust every single other driver to not fuck up or you could easily die or be injured permanently.
I’ve seen people driving out there, it’s not safe.
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u/Public_Mastodon_1201 12h ago
I also never leave my house for this exact reason. Should probably not leave my bed either. You have a good point.
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u/ConsciousSpirit397 12h ago
I personally wouldn't go that far but everyone has their own safety tolerance.
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u/Auto_update 9h ago
Brown rice and steamed zucchini. Gotta watch that human fuel, some of it is bad for you.
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u/No-Needleworker4796 8h ago
rule #1 of riding, never trust any driver out there NEVER, sometimes you have to do what is considered illegal to be safer, because the legal way can kill you. In this case, moving over to the right shoulder and watching the side miror, can give you enough space to escape, worst case it's the pedestrian who get hit (but if I see it coming and not stoping im screaming RUN!!!)
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u/el_barbarero 11h ago
Smartphone usage while driving should have a high penalty.
For the driver, I'd avise to not stop in the center of the lane, trying to give some space for a car to squeeze through if necessary.
When you brake for traffic lights, stop signs, etc., try to look in the mirror and figure out what is happening.
Note: These are mitigating measures. Unfortunately, they'll never keep you 100% out of the way of these assholes that don't care for what they're doing on the road.
Drive safe.
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u/RokRoland 14h ago
Something is wrong with your music player, it seems stuck.
Hope rider is OK though
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u/Pipeworkingcitizen 14h ago
Damn i hope that driver got penalized and their license taken. Its all recorded too
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u/ItzMichaelHD Hornet 600f 14h ago
You did nothing wrong of course, but the only thing I could think you could have done differently is whenever you change speed do a mirror check.
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u/wolfox360 13h ago
Then next time who travels in Chaotic city;When you stop, do it on the center line. For the guy of the post, Thank you for your sacrifice! hope everything ended well.
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u/2oonhed 13h ago
My freind was riding his brand new GSR 1000 aroun San Rafael and a woman hit the back of the bike....*but not him".
He said he was just sitting there, first in line at red light, and then all of the sudden the bike shot out from under him and went into the intersection. He was left standing there, in shock, but completely unharmed.
Lady in a car did not stop for the red light in time.
The bike was in the shop for months.
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u/Warm_Sky_9735 12h ago
I am 100% sure that the car drivers first answer was "You shouldn't stop there" second one was "You stopped so suddenly"
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u/PsyFyi-er1 12h ago
Similar hit on me. My fault was stopping for the red light. 1 year after and still have lower back pain. 🥲
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u/dreamdaddy123 12h ago
Has there always been people on phones or is it an increase? I drive with these kinds of idiots.
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u/Late-Button-6559 12h ago
Licence gone forever. And personally paying for all expenses of the victim, even if it makes the guilty person homeless.
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u/AbaddonR 12h ago
I think i still carry the trauma from my own accident. Watching this literally felt like it hurt me. Cant watch these videos. 😢
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u/thejourneybegins42 12h ago
I would not be stopping in the middle for reasons such as that. This is a part of riding defensively. Act like everyone wants to kill you.
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u/nightstick308 12h ago
I am also a frequent top box user. The first thing I noticed is how the top box slammed into his back, but then also prevented him from flying back into the offending car and instead caused him to end up on the side of the road. Is that better or worse? Would it be better overall if there was a backrest/cushion on the box?
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u/Chance-Agency1261 11h ago
On one hand it’s refreshing to see how everyone stopped and came to you. On the other hand I genuinely feel like some people shouldn’t ever touch a car. When I started driving I was very aware of the fact that I have a deadly weapon under my control and that I should always be careful and mindful of what’s happening around me. Seems like some people don’t share that notion
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u/ThisWeeksHuman 11h ago
That's why I prefer using my bike recreationally on roads with winding curves and little traffic. I avoid cities as much as I can, even with a car. The amount of poor drivers is insane. And there are so many extremely aggressive drivers too! Running red lights, honking if you don't go at least a bit over the speed limit, honking and trying to run you off the road if you drive defensively and watch out for pedestrians is commonplace. In Hamburg Germany and as you may imagine city populations are often less well.. civilized and have poor cultural manners. Maybe it's the anonymity or the stress of so many people in one place or maybe cities attract people with more aggressive mentalities
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u/Jaded-Breath3462 11h ago
If he's French which i think he may be, the driver will get out and shrug his shoulders as if it is the riders fault.
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u/Nordic-Candle 11h ago
thats what im paranoid the most when driving my bike, but its also the one thing i cant really influence. i generally drive pretty passive, but you really cant do anything about the person behind you.
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u/Capital-Plan-1563 11h ago
This has happened to me here in Greece twice, once with a car and one with another motorcycle, so now if and if I have to stop for pedestrians I always check the mirrors because some people are braindead when driving or riding.
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u/Lisa_Dawkins 11h ago
Not the brainrot editing where you have to show the highlight in the first seconds and then go back to show the full context.
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u/Sassy_snuggles4293 10h ago
That gave me PTSD I’ve been hit by 5 cars in the past. I don’t know how im still alive.
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u/DarkNafs83 10h ago
Almost got taken out twice on my motorbike like this along with the pedestrians trying to cross the road. Unfortunately when there is a car behind me I dont stop anymore to allow pedestrians to cross unless they are in the middle of the road because of my experience. Greece btw
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u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG 10h ago
I know you are supposed to brake for pedestrians to pass but if you are in a motorcycle, it would be safer for you to keep going. its not his fault that he got rear ended but I would have kept driving instead of stopping here. it just looks like you are stopping out of nowhere.
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u/Wuz314159 10h ago
As a bicyclist, we have a saying: Graveyards are full of cyclists who were in the right.
I got 2 broken ribs and 11 stitches for going straight through a green light. r/fuckcars
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u/Hunter_sapien 10h ago
Only thing I could say (in hindsight) is to keep an eye on that mirror instead of glancing
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u/gco0307 10h ago
Happened to me 5 years ago.
Stopped at a roadworks red light and struck from behind by a car that had hardly slowed, if at all.
Spent 3 weeks in hospital with a year rehabbing my leg (badly broken) and a while longer building body/mental strength.
Driver was distracted and admitted at the scene although did give 2 different reasons, and in the end neither held up in court
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u/Numerous-Fig-1732 10h ago
It happened to me too, the crash was so hard it bended the frame and the bike was garbage. I was sent flying but my ankles where hooked by the handlebar so I remained on the bike. A couple of week and I was on my feet again, very lucky.
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u/Antrimbloke 10h ago
Shouldnt have slowed down for the ped, many countries in europe/asia its not mandatory. Still a pisser though. Happened to me at a junction a few years ago on a brand new bike, being careful pulling out, people just assume you are going.
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u/Knife-Fumbler 2002 BMW F 650 CS 10h ago
cagers will complain about driver assists in new cars then do shit like this
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u/Peaceful--Warrior 9h ago
There's no way you can save yourself from inconsiderate people driving behind you.
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u/Quattordicesima 9h ago
I saw someone on the highway lose their wheel cover and get a flat tire today on a tir
They were on the phone and did not even notice
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u/live4daV 9h ago
Wow, thats insane. People hate being aware of their surroundings. Hope the biker is okay
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u/toss_me_good 9h ago
Yup, that's why I stopped riding. Took advanced riding courses, wore solid gear, always looked in my rear view when stopping. Still had a 82 year old driver cross double yellow without signaling and make a left in front of me. At least advanced riding courses taught me I didn't have time to stop. Ditched the bike as it smacked into the car. ended up with multiple broken bones, two surgeries, a year of PT, etc. But because of the gear no road rash, saved knees from knee guards, saved fingers from enforced gloves, saved ankles from full boots. Insurance also paid out for all the gear at full original price. Really smart purchase if you ever use it insurance pays you back. The gear was wrecked. Did its job but ended up having to put aside a lot of my other hobbies and athletic fitness. Motorcycles are though in cities
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u/bugra101 9h ago
That’s in Turkey. Where pedestrian crossings means absolute fuck all.
Feel sorry for the biker and anyone who regularly rides there.
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u/RigamortisRooster 9h ago
Those crosswalks need fixing. Ive had seen experience, the walker does make eye contact and just walks across. Seen some standing not paying attention to cross as i get closer with my brake covered, then last second they go.
Needs a buuton the walker presses and put some bright lights in the pavement to illuminate the path
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u/Cannibale_Ballet 15h ago
The car driver doesn't even press the brake pedal after he hit him, reaction time was a disaster.
I always wonder what's going on inside the brains of people like this. They must be mentally deficient to be that slow and clueless but somehow they make it to adulthood.