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Hi, I'm new to this sub and I am actually from Brazil. I hope you can help me out on this question.

Is the use of "por incrível que pareça" actually right? Cause I can't stop thinking that it should be "por mais incrível que pareça" instead.

I know it's a silly question but I get so bothered by it. Thanks in advance if someone can answer me.

Oi, estou escutando muito uma música por conta do beat e pela vontade de fazer um sample para rimar. Poderiam transcrever a letra? Não precisa da tradução, mas eu quero ver se transcrevi corretamente para treinar meu inglês.

Forte abraço!

Música; 9Days - Henny.

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Hi, I've been listening to a song a lot because of the beat and because I want to sample it for some rhymes. Could you transcribe the lyrics? I don't need a translation; I just want to check if I transcribed it correctly to practice my English.

Best regards!

Song: 9Days - Henny.

Hi! I started learning brazilian portuguese not too long ago and would love to start reading some simple or even not simple books in portuguese. The problem is that it's not a popular language to learn in my country so buying them here is borderline impossible (especially if I want to enjoy the content), buying from amazon is insanely expensive and apps with ebooks don't offer much. So I'm either looking for ebook apps that are available for download in Poland but offer a variety of books in portuguese, a natively brazilian app or a site that offers books to read. Paid or free is fine :) I also don't mind using a vpn

Did you anyone try it? where do I find it the new audios? if anyone knows, thanks 😊

How is the first 'o' in the words "extrOversão/intrOversão" pronounced in European Portuguese? Different dictionaries contradict each other as to whether it is pronounced 'u' or 'ó'.

Obrigado

So, I really like portugese, but also really like anime, so if anyone knows a portugeese streaming site I would be thnakfull.

I’m putting together a band to make samba/mpb inspired music. I’m White English and started learning BRPT and listening to Brazilian music after being with ex (who was also Brazilian). I’m now putting together a (majority white) collective to make samba-inspired music.

One of the songs I’d like to cover is ‘Upa Neiguinho’ by Edu Lobo. The song uses the word ‘neguinho’ and after researching the history and discourse surrounding it I’ve realised that it has a pretty controversial role in modern society depending on tone, context etc. What do native BRPT speakers (esp POC) think about my usage of it singing along or performing it?

The lyrics are:

Upa, neguinho na estrada
Upa, pra lá e pra cá
Vige, que coisa mais linda!
Upa, neguinho começando a andar

Upa, neguinho na estrada
Upa, pra lá e pra cá
Vige, que coisa mais linda!
Upa, neguinho começando a andar

Começando a andar
Começando a andar
E já começa apanhar

Cresce, neguinho, e me abraça
Cresce e me ensina a cantar
Eu vim de tanta desgraça
Mas muito te posso ensinar
Mas muito te posso ensinar

Capoeira (posso ensinar)
Ziquizira (posso tirar)
Valentia (posso emprestar)
Mas liberdade, só posso esperar

Olá!

I'm Brazilian and I've just moved back to Brazil after living in Canada for 5 years. I was a teacher there.

I love to teach! But I don't really know where to start, as I don't have as many connections here.

Does anyone have any pointers for me? I would love to get back into it.

Hi guys, wondering if anyone can help me understand this sentence from Machado de Assis' Memórias Póstumas de Brás Cubas

“tudo isso é a dor crua e má que lhe róe á natureza as mais íntimas entranhas”

I understand the general meaning as something like:

“All this is the raw and evil pain that gnaws at nature’s most intimate entrails.”

(I'm definitely not a professional translator!)

But I'm struggling to understand the grammar, particularly two things:

1. What is “lhe” doing here?

I understand lhe as an indirect-object pronoun, roughly “to him/her/it.” For example:

Eu lhe disse = I said to him/her.

But in this sentence we have:

que lhe róe á natureza...

My understanding is that a natureza is the thing being gnawed by róe. So what is lhe referring to / doing here? It's like "I gnaw at it at the nature" ?!

2. What is the grammatical relationship between “à natureza” and “as mais íntimas entranhas”?

I initially read this as meaning:

“the most intimate entrails of nature”

So I would have expected something like:

róe as mais íntimas entranhas da natureza

But instead we have:

róe à natureza as mais íntimas entranhas

Is à natureza functioning as some kind of indirect object here, with as mais íntimas entranhas being the direct object?

If so, would the literal structure be something like:

“gnaws at/to nature its most intimate entrails”

And is lhe then somehow referring back to natureza?

I'd really appreciate an explanation of the grammar here, rather than just the translation, because I'm trying to understand how the original Portuguese construction works.

Sorry if this is a simple thing! Maybe I'm tired but it's just not clicking!

I mean, i know that sometimes "Te/De" in brazillian portuguese sounds like “Chi/Gi" in english, but i cant understand the logic when and what i must to use, when im reading the word. There are the words like "academia, interessante" where i frequently hear like "acaDEmia, inTEressante" and i dont understand why it sounds not like "acaGImia, inCHIressante" (like english Chi and Gi sounds). Why if these words has this variand of reading Te/De, the word like "frequentemente" have another variant of pronunciation like "frequenCHImente"?

***eu falo com o português de Portugal mas a música dela é brasileira

Hola a todos,
Para contextualizar, estou a aprender Português (prático há um ano) e gosto muito de música portuguesa.
A minha mãe é portuguesa mas não falo muito com ela e ainda não sei o que parece natural.
Escuto ao música de Mari Froes (ela é uma cantora muito boa e tem um concerto em Toronto a que vou). Ao início, eu traduzi as palavras das suas canções e percebi que ela fala das mulheres muito (utiliza o pronome “ela”). Ela tem muitas canções sobre o romance e nas maiores delas fala das mulheres.

Por exemplo:
Na canção “Gabriela”
“Quem é ela, essa moça tão bonita que comanda a minha vida? Essa é a minha Gabriela.”
“Quando ela ri sinto cócegas na palavra, quando ela sorri minha alma sorri de graça.”

Na canção “Espelho”
“Ela não me vê e eu fico tão só. Confusão me rasga o peito.”
“Mas quando ela vem, fica tudo bem.”
“Preciso de um conselho, por que que ela não me quer?”
Sei nessa canção Mari fala a uma espelho e o contexto é diferente de uma canção de romance normal mas pode utilizar o pronome “ele”, não?

Quando procuro de análise ou discussão das canções- ninguém diz nada sobre a sexualidade da personagem nas canções ou de Mari Froes.
Estou confuso porque…quando fala de romance e utiliza “ela”, não é gay?
Acho que talvez não sei de informação de contexto e isso é porque eu pergunto aqui.

Qualquer conselho sobre a minha forma de me expressar neste post é muito bem-vindo

Olá, todos.

I've just come back home after doing a monthly intensive course at the B1 level. I learned A LOT and finished the course with the highest grade.

Now I would like to continue studying at the B2 level, but I would like to enroll in a group course (preferably online, as there unfortunately aren't any in-person courses where I live). I'd like to have a teacher and/or a group to keep practicing my speaking. Do you know any reputable online courses like this? I've looked it up and only found one offered by Universidade de Coimbra, but it unfortunately doesn't start until April 2027.

Alternatively, do you think it would be a good idea to continue with 1-on-1 classes with a native speaker, for example, once a week, and keep these classes 100% in Portuguese, then put more focus on studying on my own? This would certainly be much easier to set up, but I'm wondering if this is a good idea at this level?

Muito obrigado e bom dia. ❤

Olá olá! Começei a estudar PT BR há 3 anos na faculdade (sou do R.U.) e, por isso, nas aulas só usavamos você, vocês, etc., e um par de vezes a professora mencionou tu, mas ninguém o usava. Eu estudei brevemente no Brasil e, como antes, só usava você. Em geral, no meu entender, a formalidade brasileira é muito diferente do meu país e de Portugal (isto é obvio). Ao chegar em Portugal, os meus colegas da mesma idade sempre usam tu, obviamente, e, não querendo ser estranha, eu começei a usar tu também e também mudei a minha pronunciação. A usar você, não preciso de mudar a conjugação na minha mente MAS meu deus, eu estou a tratar TODO O MUNDO com tu SEM QUERER! Professores, vendedores, idosos, qualquer pessoa, tu tu tu tu. Dei-me conta do erro, corregi-me, mas nas últimas semanas eu tenho visto algumas caras de choque inesquecíveis. Eu sei o significado, a diferença, mas outra vez é totalmente sem querer.

(Aliás já passei o nivel B2 oficialmente, a começar C1 em setembro.)

Umas perguntinhas:

1. As pessoas ficam muito ofendidas na realidade (sou obviamente estrangeira, pelo menos ao abrir a boca)?
2. Outros estrangeiros (que falam uma língua sem tratamento diferente da segunda pessoa, como inglês), é possivel mudarnos as mentes nesta diferença cultural e gramatical completamente ou talvez vocês façam erros também?

Muito obrigadaaaaaaaa!

What are your favourite examples of Portuguese language short form narrative? Whether prose or poetry, fiction or non-fiction, and whichever country of origin.

Share your favourites in the comments and maybe we can help learners practice their reading and us native speakers can get to know some new works.

Hi, I’m working on reading more authentic Brazilian Portuguese. I’ve been using Readlang to help with unfamiliar words, but I’m coming across some inconsistencies and wanted to check my understanding here.

For example, I came across this passage today:

"Entretanto, a coisa que mais curiosidade me provoca, é a atitude dos vendedores das casas chamadas atacadistas.

São em geral rapazes finos, limpos e agradáveis. Chegam, sempre com um jornal, mesureiros e delicados e dizem:

— "Seu" Ventura, cá estou! Tenho um arroz finíssimo, Iguape. O senhor quer?"

I couldn't make sense of "mesureiros". Readlang translated it as "measures" and added:

"In the context of the phrase you provided, 'mesureiros' likely conveys a sense of delicacy and precision in the way the individuals are approaching their task or interaction."

I tried the same word in another Portuguese-learning tool and got:

mesureiros: obsequious · bowing · ceremonious

Translation: "They always show up carrying a newspaper, obsequious and polite, and say:"

Meaning: "Describes someone who makes polite, formal bows or gestures ('mesuras'), behaving in an overly servile or exceptionally courteous manner to win over a customer."

Google seems to agree more with the second definition.

This is just one example, but I’m trying to understand why there can be such a discrepancy. Is Readlang simply getting this one wrong, or is this the kind of problem you can run into when translating older Brazilian Portuguese texts?

Any advice on how people deal with this when reading older/authentic texts would be appreciated.

Anybody else midly infuriated by this relentless trend of using 'até então' (up until some point in the past) to mean 'até agora' (up until now)?

I have been learning Portuguese (BR) for a while now, but struggle to distinguish between many accents. Importantly. I am interested in Sao Luis, yet my friends there cannot describe their own accents, and I cannot hear differences to other Northeastern ones.

Is anyone able to explain what is different about it? (Cadence, intonation, rhythm or anything)

Thank you !!

This is a post to document my progress and strategy for learning Portuguese (Br).

I started learning Br Portuguese a few months ago. I have long been immersed in Brazilian music and dance culture (forro) and so have been exposed to the language for a long time without making an effort to learn.
My strategy so far has been

• watching videos on youtube, the channel "Decoding Words" with Andrew is great for grammar, and basic introduction to the language with an emphasis on pronunciation.
• listening to and translate voice messages/ videos from native speaking friends.
• translating songs that I like

I can understand quite a lot of written text, but my comprehension is still quite basic and speaking even more so. I can formulate basic phrases.

A friend is going to send me the BR Portuguese harry potter books, and I have started to listen to the audiobooks while waiting. I know these books incredibly well in English, i can recount some scenes and passages almost word for word because i read them so many times as a child.

I started listening to the first audiobook at 0.8 speed and I am about 1/4 of the way through. My basic vocabulary and knowledge of the story allows me to understand what is happening in a general sense, but I am missing a lot of detail, because the language is above my level. Despite this, I have experienced many little moment of insight and understanding- hearing certain words together and understanding what they mean through context, so I am clearly learning. It feels incredible, even if a lot of the time it feel like my brain is straining to understand and missing a lot of detail.

I have decided to accept that I cannot understand everything yet, and just let my brain pick out the things it understands without too much effort and accepting that my concentration will drift at times. When the books arrive I will begin some structured daily reading and listening in parallel, pausing to look things up and translate, but not insisting on brute forcing understanding of every word, phrase and sentence- I'm trying to take a more natural approach. My main concern is that the level of input is slightly too high for me but I'm going to persevere.

I'm posting this for accountability and for feedback or ideas. Will post updates.

Parece um francês tentando falar português.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNpAJm2lhWA

For those unaware, Kwiziq is a website for French/Spanish learners to practice their target languages grammar. You are given each day a bunch of lessons to learn, and as you respond to their activities the website gives you new topics to learn based on how well you do and on what suspects you might need more practice. While I was studying French I found it an amazing tool,specially considering that their short lessons format with small tests worked amazing to keep my ADHD at bay.

While my Portuguese is pretty decent and I have not a lot of problems engaging with natives on the web and even in real life, I would like to engage with the language in a more complex manner. Things like slang or literature I can defend myself, but I am left scratching my head sometimes and I would like something to help me fill the gaps in knowledge I might have.

Has anyone found something similar they would like to recommend ?

Ola gente! Basically the title, but I have a reading proficiency exam coming up for my degree in about 2 months, and I need to be able to read and translate an article from PT-BR --> English. My PT-BR reading skills are decent, but not "read and comprehend an academic article" decent, though I feel like I could be there by the time of the exam if I had the right study plan. I would love some tips and suggestions for things I can do daily to prepare.

In essence, I'm asking for practices people have used to cram an intermediate to advanced reading level in PT-BR. Of course, reading itself is the most important part, so I'm trying to read the news in PT-BR (though this isn't the easiest considering how many require a subscription), but really I'd like suggestions for potential daily drills and exercises that hyper-focus on reading skills.

Obrigado!

Hi. I would call myself a polyglot, as I can speak a few languages, including Spanish, English, French, Dutch, and Italian. However, I don't speak a single word of Portuguese. I'd like to change that, but I have the feeling my pronunciation must be awful. So I recorded a short voice recording with Vocaroo so I could ask you guys whether my accent is okay for a total beginner, or I should do it differently (and how). I'd really appreciate your help :)

https://voca.ro/13bm0MuCH2iw

https://voca.ro/17VBgT4KxP3o

https://voca.ro/12NmYnBGo2OM

Para deixar claro, eu sei que não é assim que neologismos surgem, eles entram em uso de forma natural e ao longo do tempo na maioria dos casos. Porém, em uma conversa com um amigo sobre seu relacionamento prévio, vou lhes poupar do drama, ele se referiu a sua EX-sogra e seu EX-sogro e, com toooodas as minhas faculdades mentais aguçadas, sugiro os termos NAMOGRO e NAMOGRA, para referir-se a seu ex-sogro e ex-sogra respectivamente. Gosto de como soa, caso não haja nenhuma outra sugestão mirabolante, tem um tom um pouco "áspero" e "ácido, fazendo uso de nossa querida sinestesia, porém não de uma forma rancorosa (a não ser que seja seu intuito). Compartilhem suas ideias :)