r/BEFire Mar 02 '20

Starting Out & Advice Getting started - A beginners guide to investing in Belgium through ETFs

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A beginners guide to index investing in Belgium

This guide is intended to help Belgians getting started with investing through ETFs (exchange traded funds). It is loosely based on the bogleheads approach. For more information, see the Investing from Belgium bogleheads wiki page.

For more information related to the principles of FIRE or on investing in single shares or bonds, see the BEFire Wiki.

0. Why invest in exchange traded index funds?

This chapter aims to provide sources proven to be useful to beginning index investors.

1. Taxes & compliance costs

There are three main costs associated with index funds. These are:

  • Taxes to the Belgian government
  • Unrecoverable tax losses: also known as dividend leakage
  • Management fees and internal transaction fees

1.1. Belgian Taxes

There are four three taxes relevant for Belgian index investors (NL/FR).

  • Tax on transactions: on every security transaction (buy and sell) there is a tax of 0,12% in case the ETF is registered on a list maintained by the European Economic Area. Otherwise it is 0,35% in case it is not registered in the EER and 1,32% in case it is registered in Belgium.

  • Tax on dividends: there is a 30% tax on dividends received from securities you hold. The main reason why Belgian index investors opt for accumulating funds.

  • Tax on capital gains (bonds): on funds that consist of at least 10% bonds, there is a 30% tax on capital gains when you sell. Officially this only applies to the bond section of a fund, however some banks and brokers withhold 30% of all capital gains of funds which consist of at least 10% of bonds. Contact your bank or broker to inform about their policy.

  • Tax on trading accounts: a yearly withholding of 0.15% applies on all trading accounts larger than 500,000 euro’s. Deemed unconstitutional and was abolished in October 2019.

For a detailed overview of Belgian taxes, including other sorts of investments such as individual stocks, see the flowchart made by /u/KenpachigoRuffy.

1.2. Dividend Leakage

Dividend Leakage is an unrecoverable tax loss, which occurs whenever a foreign company inside an index pays out a dividend to its shareholders.

Whenever a company inside an index pays out dividend to its shareholders, your fund needs to pay taxes. These taxes are based on the tax treaties in place between the country in which the fund is domiciled and the country in which the companies inside the index are domiciled. Also the location where you are domiciled (Belgium) is relevant. In case your fund is domiciled in the US, a 30% dividend tax should be paid. However, because Belgium has a tax treaty in place with the US, this is reduced to 15% dividend tax. In case you would select a distributing fund, this dividend would be further taxed by the Belgian government (30%, as seen in 1.1). On a hypothetical 2% dividend - which is approximately the dividend you would receive from a globally diversified index fund - you would have to pay 0,81% in taxes: 0,02 x ( 100% - (0,85 x 0,7)) = 0,81%. Note that since 2018 it is almost impossible to buy US-domiciled ETFs in the first place as most fund providers do not want to comply with European legislation regarding PRIIPs.

It is beneficial to select ETFs domiciled in Ireland, as they are more cost effective than holding US domiciled funds or Luxembourg domiciled funds. Just like Belgium, Ireland has a treaty in place with the US which means only a 15% dividend tax should be paid to the US. However, unlike Belgium, Ireland does not tax dividends at all; whenever the Irish fund distributes a dividend, the Irish government does not tax it. The Belgian government however, still will tax the dividend with 30%. Accumulating funds which reinvest the dividend in Ireland before it is distributed in Belgium do not trigger a taxable event in Belgium. It is therefore advisable to choose accumulating funds domiciled in Ireland. Repeating the same calculations as above, a hypothetical 2% dividend is now only taxed at 0,30% a year: 0,02 x (100% - (0,85)) = 0,30%. Additionally, because your fund is domiciled in Ireland, you do not have to worry recovering the tax on dividends in Belgium, as this is done by the Irish domiciled fund. Thanks to trackerbeleggen for the explanation.

An overview of unrecoverable tax losses will come later. For now, a partly overview can be found in the Dutchfire subreddit. For funds domiciled in Ireland and Luxembourg these are 1:1 translateable for Belgian investors. Note some of these funds are distributing thus subject to tax on dividends by the Belgian Government. In particular IWDA and EMIM are 1:1 translateable for Belgian investors, while VWRL is comparable to VWCE.

1.3. Management fees & internal transaction fees

Other main costs is the management fee. The Total Expense Ratio (TER) is a measure of the total costs associated with managing and operating a fund. It is usually a yearly percentage automatically deducted from your share value.

1.4. Euro-denominated funds & currency risk

Currency risk is the impact of exchange rates upon your overseas investments. Even though stock market prices might not change, the price of your shares can increase or decrease as a result of fluctuations in their underlying currencies. There are three important currency labels which apply to funds: the underlying currency, the fund currency and the trading currency.

To explain the difference, I will explain the process of purchasing IWDA, listed on both the Amsterdam (in EUR) and London (USD) exchange. A lot of what I will explain is true for other ETFs as well.

The underlying currency: IWDA is a worldwide tracker, with only about 9% of the underlying shares being traded in EUR. The other 91% of underlying shares are being traded in other currencies, such as 60% USD, 8% YEN, and so on. Because currencies can change in price in relation to another, this poses a risk called currency risk. As a European investor, most of your own capital will be in EUR. Therefore, since you are investing 91% in foreign currencies, 91% of the underlying value invested in IWDA is subject to currency risk. Because YOUR own capital will always be in EUR, this 91% will always be true, regardless if you were to invest in IWDA listed in Amsterdam (in EUR) or in London (USD). Had you been an American investor, your own capital would have been in USD, and only 40% of underlying shares would be subject to currency risk.

The trading currency, being EUR and USD respectively, does make a difference. If a European investor was to buy a fund listed in London (and traded in USD), he would pay an additional exchange rate conversion fee at the time of purchase and sale. If the investor was to buy the same fund, listed on Amsterdam (traded in EUR), nothing would have to be exchanged to a foreign currency, so no additional exchange rate conversion fee would apply.

The trading currency does NOT alter your exposure to foreign currencies (a European investor will always have his own capital in EUR, and will therefore always be exposed to the underlying currency risk, no matter what currency his purchased funds trade in). Therefore, it is only logical to buy funds in your own currency.

The fund currency simply refers to the currency that a fund reports in; NOT the currencies of the underlying securities which pose a currency risk. Is is generally based on the currency used for the underlying index (in this case MSCI). Note that for distributing funds dividends are distributed in the fund currency. Your broker will automatically convert this into your currency for an additional conversion fee.

Hedging: It is possible to hedge your funds against relative currency fluctuations, and thus to protect them from currency risk. Hedging is a form of "insurance" in which derivatives are used to make offsetting trades with negative correlations, eliminating any currency fluctuations that happen. This hedge comes at a cost, usually about 0,20% extra management fees. Because global equities naturally tend to hedge each other as rising currencies are offset by falling ones, it might not always be advisable to use hedged equity funds due to their increased fees.

In fact, most buy-and-hold investors ignore short-term fluctuation altogether. For these investors, there is little point in engaging in hedging because they let their investments grow with the overall market.

In conclusion, when buying worldwide index funds, every investor (whether European, American or other) will be exposed to some currency risk due to the underlying shares being traded in foreign currencies in relation to their own. Purchasing worldwide trackers in a different trading currency does NOT change this fact, and only costs more due to addition exchange rate conversion fees at the broker. Therefore, it is best to purchase funds in your own currency. Due to the unpredictable nature of currency valuations, most investors simply accept currency risks for their stocks, although it is possible to hedge against this risk for an additional fee by investing in hedged funds.

1.5. Conclusion on taxes & compliance costs

As a Belgian index investor, you are looking for widely-diversified Euro-denominated low-cost accumulating ETFs domiciled in Ireland, from a reputable ETF provider. This way, the costs are kept to an absolute minimum:

  • Tax on transactions: 0,12% whenever you buy or sell a position.

  • Tax on capital gains for bonds: 30% tax on capital gains whenever you sell.

  • Dividend leakage: Approximately 0,30% yearly unrecoverable taxes paid to foreign governments when investing in worldwide trackers, automatically deducted from the share value.

  • Management fees: Between 0,10% and 0,30% yearly management fees, automatically deducted from the share value.

  • Currency Risk: If you are an European long-term investor, purchase a fund which is listed in EUR. For the equity portion of your portfolio, it is possible to ignore currency risk altogether, as hedges would only cost more money for something that is likely irrelevant long-term.

2. Funds - Equity

2.1. Indices

The are two major indices used by fund providers: MSCI and the less popular FTSE Russel. While they both offer broadly diversified, market capitalisation-weighted indices, there are small differences in both methodologies and performances, which is why you should not mix them.

The first difference between the two indices is whether they count certain countries as developed or emerging markets. South Korea is classified as an emerging nation by MSCI but has been promoted to developed market status by FTSE. Therefore South Korea is included in FTSE’s developed market index but not its emerging market one, and vice versa for MSCI (Source: justetf).

The second difference is index composition and weights. Because South Korea is classified as an emerging nation by MSCI, the contrast in index composition is clearer in the emerging markets. The lack of said country in the FTSE index means they redistribute the weight over other countries.

The third and final difference is small-cap firms. MSCI world captures 85% of the global investable market, and exclude the bottom 15% as small-cap firms. FTSE all-world invests in approximately 90% of the global investable market, and only excludes 10% as small-cap firms. This is because FTSE defines some firms as large-cap, while MSCI defines them as small-cap. This also explains why FTSE tracks more companies (3,928 vs 2,849), although their small size tends to limit their impact.

Avoid mixing index providers in your portfolio. If you were to combine MSCI world with FTSE Emerging Market, you would not have any exposure to South Korea. For a correct market distribution, it is important to use funds which follow the same index so that all countries, sectors and firms within your portfolio follow the same methodology.

While it is true the FTSE emerging markets has proven to have better performance than its MSCI counterpart up until now, the costs of the fund following the index are more important than the index construction over long-term. Chapter 2.3 will give an overview of the most popular funds used by Belgian index investors looking for global market exposure.

2.2. Fund replication methods

The goal of each ETF is to replicate its index as closely and cost-effectively as possible. Various methods have emerged to replicate the index. The classic method is physical replication. If the ETF directly holds the all securities of the index, this is known as full replication. The development of the underlying index is generally captured well by physical trackers.

Full replication is not always possible. Other replication methods, such as synthetic replication allow to invest in new markets and investment classes. Synthetic ETFs are able to replicate some indices more efficiently and better through swaps (justetf). In case of synthetic replicated ETFs, the ETF does not invest in the underlying market, but only maps them. Because of this, some synthetic trackers, as well as short trackers and leveraged ETFs do not follow the index as accurate as fully replicated ETFs. It is therefore recommended to always choose physical replicating ETFs.

2.3. All-World, developed and emerging markets

Following the Bogleheads® Investment Philosophy, we are looking for diversification. For Belgians, this means worldwide market exposure, as we generally do not have a home bias (for Belgium or Europe) although exceptions certainly are possible. Some popular funds for worldwide diversification are:

Popular and generally reputable providers are iShares, Vanguard, SPDR and Deutsche Bank.

All-world Ticker TER Index ISIN
Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VWCE 0.22% FTSE IE00BK5BQT80
iShares MSCI ACWI UCITS ETF (Acc) IUSQ 0.20% MSCI IE00B6R52259
Developed markets Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares Core MSCI World UCITS ETF IWDA 0.20% MSCI IE00B4L5Y983
SPDR MSCI World UCITS ETF SWRD 0.12% MSCI IE00BFY0GT14
Vanguard FTSE Developed World UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VGVF 0.12% FTSE IE00BK5BQV03
Emerging markets Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets IMI UCITS ETF EMIM 0.18% MSCI IE00BKM4GZ66
iShares MSCI EM UCITS ETF IEMA 0.18% MSCI IE00B4L5YC18
Vanguard FTSE Emerging Markets UCITS ETF USD Accumulation (EUR) VFEA 0.22% FTSE IE00BK5BR733

2.4. Combining funds

To have worldwide market exposure in large cap either pick VWCE or a combination of developed (88%) and emerging (12%) markets. It is advisable to only combine funds which follow the same index (MSCI or FTSE).

2.5. Size and Value factors

Other factors have been identified to further increase expected returns. Most notably Size and Value as explained in the three-factor model by Fama and French. Value stocks have a high book-to-market ratio (as opposed to growth), whereas size simply refers to small companies outperforming big ones. It is very difficult to get proper market exposure to these factors with the limited amount of funds available for European investors. For most beginners the best advice is to stick with a market weighted portfolio consisting of developed and emerging markets as explained in chapter 2.3. and 2.4. If you are looking for additional exposure to the size and value factor consider following funds:

Small Cap World Ticker TER Index ISIN
iShares MSCI World Small Cap UCITS ETF IUSN 0.35% MSCI IE00BF4RFH31
SPDR MSCI World Small Cap UCITS ETF ZPRS 0.45% MSCI IE00BCBJG560
Small Cap Value Ticker TER Index ISIN
SPDR MSCI USA Small Cap Value Weighted UCITS ETF ZPRV 0.30% MSCI IE00BSPLC413
SPDR MSCI Europe Small Cap Value Weighted UCITS ETF ZPRX 0.30% MSCI IE00BSPLC298

Note that the fund size for ZPRV and ZPRX are small, which might indicate a low liquidity and high tracking error. Larger funds (unlike ZPRV and ZPRX) are often more efficient in terms of internal costs (tracking error) and are much more profitable for the fund provider. In other words, fund size is a good indicator for the funds durability and popularity. Unprofitable funds are more liable to liquidation. This means either you or your provider sells your shares, and you'll receive the net value of your ETF shares at the time of sale. It does not mean ZPRV and ZPRX are at risk of liquidation, per definition. They are serving a niche. Just keep in mind these risks whenever you decide to invest in small funds such as ZPRV and ZPRX.

3. Funds - Bonds

Investing can be risky. Generally speaking, the riskier an investment, the higher your expected returns. The goal is to choose an asset allocation which suits your risk profile. Bonds offer a way to reduce volatility of your portfolio and match your risk profile. Meesman, a reputable index fund broker in the Netherlands made a table which can act as a general rule of thumb for your investment decisions and asset allocation between stocks and bonds. As can been seen, when investing for a duration shorter than 5 years, stocks should be avoided as they are too volatile an asset class. This allocation slowly shifts towards more inclusion of stocks the longer your investment horizon.

Max. acceptable (temporary) loss 0 - 5 jr 5 - 10 jr 10 - 15 jr 15 - 20 jr > 20 jr
-10% 0/100 0/100 0/100 0/100 0/100
-20% 0/100 25/75 25/75 25/75 25/75
-30% 0/100 25/75 50/50 50/50 50/50
-40% 0/100 25/75 50/50 75/25 75/25
-50% 0/100 25/75 50/50 75/25 100/0

As opposed to equity funds it makes sense to opt for hedged funds as it reduces volatility considerably. The most popular options out there are:

Fund Name Ticker TER ISIN
iShares Core Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF EUR Hedged AGGH 0.10% IE00BDBRDM35
Vanguard Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF EUR Hedged VAGF 0.10% IE00BG47KH54

4. Brokers

There are a couple of Belgian and foreign brokers available, the biggest Belgian brokers being Binckbank and Bolero. Smaller ones like Keytrade and MeDirect are also available. Foreign brokers still available to Belgians are Degiro and Lynx. The lowest fees are available at Degiro (Custody account), if you're willing to file your own taxes. The benefit of choosing a Belgian broker is that they declare all taxes automatically. Degiro only does part of it (tax on transactions), Lynx not sure. The cheapest Belgian broker is Binckbank, followed closely by Bolero. The only downside of Binckbank is that is was recently bought by Saxobank, which in its turn is owned by chinese investors. Bolero is owned by KBC which is quite a sizable bank in Belgium.

In short: if you're willing to partly file your own taxes, Degiro has the cheapest rates with a custody account. Otherwise Binkbank or Bolero both seem logical choices.

In case you pick Degiro, some funds are included in their core selection which means you can trade them for for free once a month or continuously in case the transaction size is larger than 1,000 euros and the transaction is in the same direction as the previous transaction (buy -> buy and sell -> sell. Buy -> sell and sell -> buy are not free).

5. Sample portfolios

A popular choice is IWDA and IEMA (88/12) on Degiro. Both IWDA and IEMA are part of the core selection of Degiro which allows you to purchase them for free once a month (or more in case explained above). Another popular option is IWDA and EMIM (88/12), as EMIM also includes emerging markets small cap. Note that IWDA does not include developed markets small cap, to which IEMA is complementary if you wish to exclude small cap exposure. The main reason EMIM was so popular is because it was the cheapest option until the TER was lowered for IEMA.

A second popular choice is VWCE. This is a single fund which essentially accomplishes the same as above. It is available at most brokers, and my personal choice for simplicity above everything else. Note that this fund is currently only available on XETRA, which might imply higher transaction fees at your broker. Also note that some brokers - including bolero - charge a higher TOB (Tax on transactions): 1,32% instead of 0,12% whenever you buy or sell a position.

A third option - much like the first option - is to combine VGVF and VFEA (88/12). While they are not part of the core selection in Degiro, the total costs when accounting for dividend leakage are equal to IWDA / EMIM. Unlike iShares, Vanguard only uses securities lending for efficient portfolio management. Note that these funds currently only are available at XETRA.

For those who are looking for small cap exposure it is possible to add WSML to your standard world exposure. This could for example be 75% IWDA, 10% IEMA and 15% IUSN. I personally do not recommend this as mixed small cap does not capture the size factor in a good way. Instead, it is only the value portion of small cap which are accountable for the outperformance of small cap stocks vs large cap stocks. If you want to capture the size factor into your portfolio you need to find small cap funds which only consist of value stocks. I've linked two accumulating funds above (ZPRV and ZPRX) which do so, however are very small and therefore have their own set of problems. Until a proper small cap value stock becomes available in Europe, it is perfectly fine to leave small caps out of your portfolio altogether.

Changelog

This post was last updated: 5th of August 2020


r/BEFire 13h ago

Bank & Savings Strijd om spaarder opnieuw losgebarsten: BNP Paribas Fortis verhoogt rente op maandelijks sparen

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De strijd om de spaarder is opnieuw losgebarsten, zo bleek vorige week al toen verschillende banken en verzekeraars hun termijnrente verhoogden als antwoord op de Staatsbon.

BNP Paribas Fortis, marktleider op de spaarmarkt, verhoogt nu de rente op zijn Boost Spaarrekening. Dat is een rekening waarbij klanten maandelijks tot 500 euro kunnen bijsparen.

De basisrente wordt vanaf 1 september verhoogd van 1,40 procent tot 1,75 procent. De getrouwheidspremie blijft op 1,50 procent staan.

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/economie/bedrijven/strijd-om-spaarder-opnieuw-losgebarsten-bnp-paribas-fortis-verhoogt-rente-op-maandelijks-sparen/160791650.html


r/BEFire 11h ago

Bank & Savings I'm 23, when to start investing?

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Hello, I'm 23 and just graduated. I live with my parents and have around 7000eu in savings.

I will soon start a job where I will be paid about 2650eu net/month but as I will still live with my parents, I will be able to save this money aggressively (I'm thinking about 2000eu a month, probably more as I won't pay for rent nor food most of the time, but I prefer to keep a margin).

My question is when should I start investing and how much should I keep in savings?

I will probably live with my parents for another 2 years and then rent a room in a cheap apartment with roommates. My goal is to buy my own apartment (aiming for a 200-250k property) in Brussels in 4-5 years (for personal reasons, I won't be able to buy before that with the job I will have) so I'm wondering if it's really interesting to invest now even if I will need a substantial amount of this money in 4-5 years? Or will I likely have the possibility to invest on one side and save enough for a mortgage on the other side?

I don't really have any financial education (other than some Youtube channels I follow), so I'm a bit lost.

I was also thinking of discussing this with a financial advisor at my bank but I feel like their job is just trying to sell me products and I don't like that but I don't really know who to contact otherwise.


r/BEFire 3h ago

Starting Out & Advice Advies beleggen ETF voor petekind

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Goedeavond,

Ik spaar maandelijks een klein bedrag van 25€ voor mijn petekindje als cadeau als ze 21 jaar wordt.

Ik heb ondertussen een bedrag van +-1800€. Momenteel staat dit in een Tak-23 rekening van Argenta, waarvoor zij maandelijks veel te veel kosten aanrekenen.

Welke ETF’s zouden jullie hiervoor aanraden? Liefst ook Europees gezien mijn anti-Amerikaans sentiment de laatste tijd.


r/BEFire 4h ago

Investing Switch platforms (EFT)

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Hi everyone,

I’m currently with Saxo and invest €500 every month in an ETF. I don’t use the auto-invest option because I sometimes prefer to buy only when the market opens negatively.

Lately I’ve been having some issues: the instant transfer doesn’t work and always gives an error message. This means I have to use a regular bank transfer instead, which works but can take a long time. I’ve been in contact with customer service for weeks now, going back and forth, but still no solution.

I’m a customer at Belfius myself, so why not switch to Rebel? The costs seem roughly the same to me, and it would be more convenient since I already have all my finances with that bank. It might even help if I want to take out a mortgage later (though I’m not sure whether a bank takes that into account).

Does anyone have any advice, or would you advise against it?


r/BEFire 13h ago

Bank & Savings Mortgage payments after losing my job

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Edit : I have read my contract, i have Free deferral of up to 3 monthly repayments

Hello everyone, I’m not sure if this is the most appropriate place to ask my question, but I hope someone can help me.

I took out a mortgage for my house about a year ago, but I have recently lost my job and I’m currently only receiving unemployment benefits.

Am I legally allowed to ask my bank to temporarily reduce or suspend my mortgage payments while I get back on my feet? If so, for how long?

Would this increase the overall cost or interest rate of my mortgage, or would the missed payments simply be deferred to a later date?

I do have some emergency savings set aside, but I feel it would be better to keep that money available in case other problems arise.

Thx


r/BEFire 11h ago

Brokers Copy Trading - Regulatory Checks and Brokers

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Copy Trading is a big trend in US with multiple brokers who allow you to directly follow other leading brokerage firms / investors and let's you automatically copy their trade into your brokerage account executed proportionally to the revenue distribution of investment.

So if a lead trader is making $ 1M investment over 5 trades and you have only $1000, it adjusts accordingly on 5 trades of $1000.

What are the legal guardrails / constraints in Belgium/ EU for such trading. This is obviously Speculative trading so I am not looking for tax implications... Just the legality of this whole thing.


r/BEFire 1d ago

Taxes & Fiscality Trends on fiscal classification as speculative investor

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This experts hints at it being quite difficult not to be considered as a speculative investor.

I imagine for example that many on this Reddit sub have a significant amount of their wealth invested on the stock exchange.

‘Zorgt de fiscus bewust voor onzekerheid over de meerwaardetaks?’ Anton Van Zantbeek Partner bij Rivus Advocaten 12:53 Bijgewerkt: 13:07 2 min leestijd

Vooral doe-het-zelfbeleggers zijn de dupe. Willen zij succesvol uit het vizier van de fiscus blijven, dan zullen ze heel strikt binnen de lijntjes moeten kleuren.

De nieuwe meerwaardebelasting beroert beleggers. De belasting lijkt nochtans eenvoudig. 10 procent belasting op gerealiseerde meerwaarden op aandelen, obligaties, bitcoins, enzovoort. De belastbare meerwaarde is het verschil tussen de verkoop- en de aankoopprijs. Voor beleggingen van voor 2026 wordt gedaan alsof men ze kocht op 31 december 2025. Dat is het zogenaamde ‘fotomoment’. Tot slot krijgt iedereen een jaarlijkse vrijstelling op de eerste 10.000 euro meerwaarde, wat neerkomt op 1.000 euro.

Heel eenvoudig dus. Althans zo dacht de politiek erover. Die naïeve illusie heeft niet lang geduurd. Onmiddellijk bij het bekendmaken werd duidelijk dat de doos van Pandora was geopend. Breed maatschappelijk kwam veel commentaar. Maar de politiek bleef doofstom. Op 21 april 2026 werd de meerwaardebelasting ingevoerd, retroactief naar 1 januari 2026.

Sedertdien is de chaos compleet. De recent gepubliceerde circulaire van 22 juli 2026 moet de onzekerheid wegnemen. Maar daarin slaagt de fiscus niet. De meer dan zeventig pagina’s uitleg maken alleen duidelijk dat het complex was, complex is en complex blijft.

Nochtans had de circulaire bepaalde grote onzekerheden eenvoudig kunnen wegnemen. Denk bijvoorbeeld aan de vraag wanneer beleggen speculatie wordt. Die vraag houdt tienduizenden beleggers bezig. Maar de circulaire besteedt er slechts een halve pagina aan. Die beperkte uitleg betreft bovendien niet de klassieke belegger. Neen, de circulaire focust op cryptobeleggers. Lees ook – Wat houdt de meerwaardebelasting in voor beleggers, ondernemers én werknemers?

Wanneer een belegger ‘fiscaal’ een speculant wordt, is fiscaal belangrijk. Bij speculatie is het tarief 33 procent (vermeerderd met de aanvullende gemeentebelasting), is er geen ‘fotomoment’ en geen vrijstelling. Voor de gewone belegger geldt een tarief van 10 procent, een fotomoment en een vrijstelling van 10.000 euro. Dag en nacht verschil dus.

De belegger moet die fiscale onzekerheid zelf managen door een bewuste keuze te maken. De minste onzekerheid heeft de belegger die belegt in één of enkele kapitaliserende beveks of trackers (ETF’s of exchange traded funds) en die lang aanhoudt. Ook indien je het beleggen overlaat aan een professionele beheerder, lijkt het risico op speculatie beperkter. In de feiten zal ook een belegger die alle meerwaarden aan de bron laat belasten (opt-in) minder risico lopen. Maar die betaalt dan sowieso te veel belasting. Minderwaarden en de vrijstelling worden immers niet in rekening gebracht.

Vooral doe-het-zelfbeleggers zijn de dupe. Willen zij succesvol uit het vizier van de fiscus blijven, dan zullen ze heel strikt binnen de lijntjes moeten kleuren. Belangrijke overwegingen zijn dat men slechts met een beperkt deel van het financieel gezinsvermogen mag beleggen, er nooit geleend mag worden om te beleggen, er een buy-and-holdstrategie wordt gevolgd, het aantal transacties het best wordt beperkt en complexe financiële producten beter mijdt.

En zo is de recente circulaire een gemiste kans om klassieke goedehuisvaderbeleggers fiscaal uit de wind te zetten. Dat is niet gebeurd. Sommigen zeggen dat dit bewust niet is gebeurd. Onzekerheid levert immers meer belasting op. Maar zou de fiscus zo cynisch zijn? Wie zal het zeggen.

De auteur is partner bij Rivus Advocaten en gastdocent aan de Fiscale Hogeschool


r/BEFire 1d ago

Investing Long term 1.5x leverage global index investing with futures, good idea?

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Hi everyone, first time posting here. I’m a 3rd-year Business Engineering (Handelsingenieur) student. I know a lot about finance and a firm believer in low-cost, broad-market index investing.

Due to my long investment horizon and higher risk tolerance (higher than all world etf), i have been researching the lifecycle investing framework. (young investors with lots of future human capital are under allocated to equities in the beginning of their life, thus advocating for using 1.5-2x leverage in the beginning)

I am planning to invest 50k with 1.5x leverage using futures on a global index and i want to get some feedback from everyone in this subreddit.

I have researched achieving this leverage using margin, options (leaps) and futures. Futures seems to be the best option due to the institutional interest rate being easily 1.5% lower than using margin with a retail broker. (and also no 0.12% tob)

I will keep uninvested cash in funds like CSH2 or xeon and rebalance my leverage each roll over period when it has deviated significantly from 1.5x (1.35-1.65x for example)

I have searched for backtests and strategies similar to mine outperform the unleveraged scenario 90%+ of the time in 20 year periods.

Also because the futures contract gains are realised each year this plays to my advantage because each year i can use (part of) my 10k capital gains tax exemption, avoiding massive single tax when i sell it to buy a house for example (at that time the cap gain tax rate is prob higher than 10%). I think i can not deduct capital losses under the current belgian tax rules, which is a negative but does not outweigh the positive.

If there are people that have done these or have researched this i would love to hear your input on my strategy. I am fully aware that leverage carries risk, but since my personal risk tolerance is higher than that of the global index. I think this is the most optimal way to capture the return on that risk especially compared to buying more risky stocks.

I also hope this strat is considered "goede huisvader" investing, if anyone has any experience with this i would love to hear it!

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1149340

edit: i will be doing this with IBKR

edit2: to clarify, i made this post to explore how investors with a higher risk tolerance can best scale expected returns in Belgium. I want to move up the capital allocation line, scaling compensated systematic risk (market beta). I am not interested in the common approach of taking on uncompensated idiosyncratic risk by picking stocks etc.

edit3: i have also become more interested in a slight factor tilt, and also buying just etf's for the 1x and only futures for the extra 0.5x leverage instead of doing only futures to get the 1.5x leverage. If anyone knows more about this or has any experience, i would love to hear it!


r/BEFire 1d ago

Real estate High mortage low interests vs. Lower mortage higher interests

10 Upvotes

I am at the point where I have to take a loan from a bank to afford the house I am planning to build. At the moment the rates I get trough simulation are around 4%. I am planning on taking a loan for 300k. I was wondering what the smartest move would be to save as much as possible. Take the loan on 15, 20 or 25 years.

The costs wil be as following:

25y - 1571/mo - 171k total interest

20y - 1806/mo - 133k total interest

15y - 2208/mo - 97k total interest

So with the loan on 25y I have 630/mo to invest in ETF's, but the interests are a lot higher. I was wondering what the best choice would be.


r/BEFire 1d ago

Starting Out & Advice Where can I get educated?

3 Upvotes

I am a 21 year old student currently doing my Masters. However, I fnd myself in a position where every month, I am left with 3/400 euros with which I have no current ‘use’ for (i.e. expenses already covered). I’d like to get into FIRE, but I honestly have no idea how it works, where to invest (I currently use neobanks). I am just looking to get A) educated and B) started on my FIRE. Where can I find a good ‘tutorial’ to get the process started?

Thank you, and have a good day

Edit: Typo


r/BEFire 1d ago

Brokers ETF sale across 2 brokers to maximize capital gains tax exemption

3 Upvotes

Say I have the following situation for an ETF X I own:

- 100 shares on Broker A since 31st Dec 2025

- 50 shares on Broker B, bought over multiple months during 2026

I want to sell the minimum number of shares to reach 10k € of capital gains exemption in 2026: does it matter from which broker I sell?

In other words, how do FIFO principle apply in this case?


r/BEFire 1d ago

Alternative Investments Looking for advice in my portfolio distribution

1 Upvotes

Hi everyone, this is my first post on Reddit, so please be gentle with me! 😅

I'm 27 years old, and over the past two years I've gradually built up a portfolio of around €20k. It is currently invested as follows:

  • 75% VWCE
  • 5% IWDA — probably my first mistake in the investment world. At the time, I thought that diversifying between VWCE (Vanguard) and IWDA (BlackRock) would give me some additional diversification.
  • 6% CSNDX
  • 14% cash, which I’m planning to invest

My investment horizon is long term (10+ years).

Regarding the remaining 14% (around €2.5k), I was thinking of investing part of it — perhaps €1k — in IWDA, mainly because of the lower fees compared with VWCE, especially considering that I also have to pay the Belgian TOB (transaction tax), and the remaining amount in CSNDX.

I know that both VWCE and IWDA already have more than 60% exposure to the US, but I would still like to have a small additional allocation toward large technology companies, mainly in the US. I would also be open to considering European tech companies or ETFs if that makes more sense.

What am I missing here?

What are the main downsides or risks of this portfolio allocation that I might not be considering?

Would it make sense to invest the remaining 14% mostly in VWCE, or would adding more IWDA and CSNDX make more sense?

And, given that this is a long-term portfolio, would it make sense to allocate a very small portion to individual stocks (for example, a few carefully selected companies), or would that just add unnecessary risk and complexity given the exposure I already have through the ETFs?

I'm particularly interested in hearing how you would invest the remaining 14% and whether you would keep the portfolio as simple as possible or add a small "satellite" allocation to individual stocks.

Thanks in advance for any advice!


r/BEFire 2d ago

Investing 30K cash - ETF diversification or deep investing

10 Upvotes

Hello guys,

Sitting on 30K cash. Currently have a small amount in ETFs, and I wonder what my best course of action is here. Your ideas are greatly appreciated.

Current portfolio:

IWDA - 7K

EMIM - 1,2K

Individual stocks - 1K (down from 2K to remind me not to invest in individual stocks)

Possible growth path:

1K bonus per quarter to invest

What my gut tells me:

Just chuck in the 30K in my broker's app and split the 30K inbetween IDWA & EMIM at market price. Continue on quarterly basis with cash from bonus.

My open questions:

  1. All-in or spread 30K over longer period and try to buy ETFs at dips

  2. Diversify in ETFs and look for alternatives to IDWA & EMIM with lower prices (if so what are the best alternatives?


r/BEFire 2d ago

Brokers Degiro and Capital Gains

11 Upvotes

I recently sold some of my ETF for the first time (buying a house).

If I understood well in Belgium now we pay 10% on capital gains above 10K a year.

My question is simply : how do I see the capital gain I made on that trade? I can't seem to find a clear answer in the degiro app


r/BEFire 2d ago

Investing Ik heb een obligatie-spaarplan generator gebouwd voor wie een alternatief zoekt voor een termijnrekening/kasbon (testers gezocht)

6 Upvotes

Dag allemaal,

Een maand of acht geleden deelde ik hier mijn gratis staatsobligatiescreener van Bondtopia. Dankzij de feedback daarop heb ik de voorbije maanden verder gebouwd aan een nieuwe tool: een obligatie-spaarplan generator.

Als je bijvoorbeeld € 20 000 of € 50 000 spaargeld enkele jaren wil wegzetten via staatsobligaties, komen al snel de vragen: welke staatsobligaties kies ik, hoeveel koop ik ervan, tegen welke prijs en wat levert dat netto op tegenover een termijnrekening/kasbon?

Daar probeert de obligatie-spaarplan generator bij te helpen.

👉 Je kan het hier gratis testen: https://bondtopia.com

Je geeft aan hoeveel je wil investeren, hoelang je het geld kan missen, welke broker je gebruikt en hoeveel kredietrisico je wil toelaten. Bondtopia doorzoekt vervolgens de beschikbare staatsobligaties en stelt op basis van die criteria automatisch een concreet spaarplan samen met specifieke obligaties en bedragen.

Dat volledige spaarplan wordt dus nu al gegenereerd. Tijdens deze validatiefase toon ik in de gratis preview alleen nog niet welke specifieke obligaties geselecteerd zijn. Je ziet wel onder andere hoeveel obligaties het plan bevat, het verwachte netto jaarrendement, de verwachte opbrengst over de volledige looptijd en een vergelijking met het hoogste geafficheerde spaaralternatief bij Belgische banken met dezelfde looptijd.

Het volledige plan bevat daarnaast de geselecteerde obligaties en ISIN-codes, de concrete verdeling, nominale waarden, indicatieve limietprijzen, geschatte kosten en taksen en informatie over onder andere kredietrisico en liquiditeit.

Ik wil eerst valideren of mensen zo'n volledig spaarplan nuttig genoeg zouden vinden om ervoor te betalen voordat ik het effectief beschikbaar maak. Daarom staat er in de preview een korte vraag over of je € 39 voor het volledige plan zou betalen. Wie wil, kan daarna nog enkele extra vragen beantwoorden.

Geen account nodig en testen is momenteel volledig gratis.

Feedback hier in de comments is uiteraard ook zeer welkom!


r/BEFire 2d ago

Investing ETF

7 Upvotes

Good evening, I was wondering if someone could help me understand what I need to do to be fully tax-compliant in Belgium.

I am a 19-year-old student and I would like to invest €50 per month in the 'Core MSCI World USD (acc)' ETF using Trade Republic.

I want to let this money grow over the long term without touching it for at least 10 years. Ideally, I won't be living in Belgium anymore by then.

My questions are as follows:

  1. Should I stick to €50 for this ETF, or could I afford to put in more, say €100 in total? (Of course, my current priority is building an emergency fund of around €3,500, but once that is done, is it a good idea to add more?)

  2. I'm hesitating between investing 100% in the MSCI World or putting 80% into the MSCI World and the remaining 20% into another ETF like the Nasdaq. Should I do this, or should I stick exclusively to the MSCI World?

  3. I use Trade Republic—is it a good platform?

  4. I know I have to report my account to the Central Contact Point (CCP) of the National Bank of Belgium and mention holding this foreign account on my annual tax** **return. Is there anything else I need to do?

Thanks


r/BEFire 3d ago

Bank & Savings Mortgage transfer

7 Upvotes

If you already have a mortgage and then buy a new property, you can transfer your old mortgage keeping your interest rate to your new property. This can be useful in keeping your old interest rate if also selling your old property.

for example we got to keep our interest rate from a number of years ago and took out an additional mortgage on top for the rest of the money.
We stayed with the same Bank and the same agent which made it easier. Not sure if it’s transferable between banks.


r/BEFire 2d ago

Starting Out & Advice Emigratie België

0 Upvotes

Op dit moment ben ik woonachtig in Nederland, ongeveer 10km van de Belgisch/Nederlandse grens. Ik verwacht op korte termijn te verhuizen naar België, Simpelweg omdat de huizen daar veel betaalbaarder zijn en i.v.m. de naderende box 3 wetgeving in Nederland.

Op dit moment beleg in via ING in de 3 bekende Northern Trust fondsen. Mijn doel is om de komende 30 jaar periodiek te blijven investeren in een world etf met goede dekking.

Wat zouden jullie adviseren om in te blijven beleggen.

Extra info:

Ik ben op dit moment 30 jaar, en blijf in Nederland werken.


r/BEFire 3d ago

Investing First timer portfolio

8 Upvotes

Dag BEFire

Ben 26 jaar met 25-30k dat ik zou willen investeren. Na de wiki / posts / boeken te lezen kom ik uit op deze strategie:

Holding Allocatie
IMIE / SPYI 90%
ZPRX — Europe Small Cap Value 5%
FLXT— Taiwan 3%
Hoog risico ETF / individuele bedrijven 1-2%
Total 100%

Na mijn initiele investering van 25k over 5 maanden zou ik maandelijks IMIE blijven investeren en dan om het jaar de andere re-balancen / aankopen.

Tips / opmerking welkom aangezien ik zeker wil bijleren :)


r/BEFire 3d ago

Real estate First time home-buyer looking for advice

8 Upvotes

Hi everyone,
I’ve been a longtime lurker, and this will be my first post here!

My wife and I are currently renting a small apartment and are planning to buy a house in the near future. We have no experience whatsoever with getting a mortgage or dealing with all the administration that comes with buying a home.

We currently have around €190,000 in savings, and we’re looking at homes in the €350,000–€400,000 range. Ideally, we’d like to keep our monthly mortgage payment to €1,500 or less.

We’re planning to start talking to banks soon to see what we can borrow, but we’d like to be as well-prepared as possible and make sure we negotiate the best deal we can.

For those who have been through this process before:
- What tips or tricks do you have when negotiating with banks?
- Are there any caveats or things we should be particularly aware of?
- How much time should we realistically expect to spend talking to different banks and comparing/negotiating offers?
- I work during office hours. Do banks generally offer mortgage consultations outside of working hours or on weekends, or should I expect to take time off work?
- Is there anything you wish you had known before starting the process?

Any other advice for first-time buyers would also be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences and insights!


r/BEFire 2d ago

Investing 36M, goed inkomen maar te laat begonnen met verstandig beleggen – hoe zouden jullie dit aanpakken?

0 Upvotes

Ik ben 36, zelfstandige en vennoot in het bedrijf waar ik werk. Goed kunnen sparen de afgelopen jaren, maar qua beleggen niet altijd de beste keuzes gemaakt.

Situatie:

  • ±€150k geïnvesteerd in eigen bedrijf → ondertussen 7 figures waard, maar niet liquide.
  • Eigen woning ±€900k, nog ±€450k hypotheek.
  • €50–100k cash.
  • Dit jaar nog €20–30k te investeren, daarna normaal €50k/jaar (mogelijk meer).
  • belangrijk: Helaas 6 figures verloren met crypto. Vooral de opportuniteitskost blijft zuur: brede ETF's kopen en niets doen was veel beter geweest.

Ik wil het daarom de komende 10–20+ jaar simpel houden: brede, goedkope ETF's/indexfondsen kopen, consequent investeren en er zo weinig mogelijk naar kijken. Mijn tijd steek ik liever in mijn bedrijf, waar ik meer impact heb en eventueel nog extra aandelen kan verwerven.

Mis ik iets?

  • Gewoon voornamelijk ETF's en volhouden?
  • Vastgoed lijkt me niet noodzakelijk lucratiever en vooral meer werk?
  • Obligaties/andere beleggingen voor minder risico?
  • Wanneer heeft private banking/vermogensbeheer echt meerwaarde?
  • Gezien mijn grote blootstelling aan mijn eigen bedrijf: de rest juist maximaal diversifiëren?

Na crypto zoek ik niet meer naar de volgende 10x. Vooral rustig vermogen opbouwen zonder dat beleggen een tweede job wordt.

Benieuwd hoe jullie dit zouden aanpakken.


r/BEFire 3d ago

Taxes & Fiscality Revolut Flexible savings and TOB

1 Upvotes

Hi all,

I recently moved to Belgium and I have a revolut account that still has the LT IBAN. I use the flexible savings account for my spare money. Since this is an MMF, do I need to report and pay ToB for every transaction in MinFin or since this is not the stock market this is not needed?

Thank you!


r/BEFire 4d ago

FIRE [Portfolio Review] 23M - New 1,000 €/mo ETF DCA

15 Upvotes

​Hi everyone,

​I’m 23, recently started working, and I’m looking for general feedback on my current setup and upcoming plans.

​Financial Snapshot

​Age: 23

​Net Salary: 2,700 € / month

​Cash Savings: 23,000 €

​Current Portfolio (~10,250 € total)

ETF DCA (1,000 € / month) — Portfolio value: ~5,250 €

​85 % (850 €/mo) : Xtrackers MSCI AC World Screened UCITS ETF 1C (XMAW - IE00BGHQ0G80)

​15 % (150 €/mo) : iShares MSCI World Small Cap ESG Enhanced CTB UCITS ETF (CBUG - IE000T9EOCL3)

​Individual Tech Stocks — Portfolio value: ~5,000 €

​15x NVIDIA (NVDA) : +66 %

​5x Broadcom (AVGO) : +45 %

​0.72x Meta (META) : -12 %

​Crypto: 0 €

​Upcoming Project (1-Year Horizon)

​Planning to buy a starter apartment (~120k€ - 135k€) within the next 12 months.

​Use ~20k€ cash for notary fees/duties (3% registration rate in Wallonia) and down payment.

​Questions

​What do you think of this setup overall?

​Any advice, potential red flags, or things you would do differently / add?

Should i sell the stocks and buy ETF ? Add crypto ?

​Thanks for your feedback!


r/BEFire 4d ago

Bank & Savings Lenen met een hoge eigen inbreng

31 Upvotes

Dag allemaal,

Mijn vrouw en ik zijn van plan om een instapklare nieuwbouw huis te kopen van ongeveer €560.000, inclusief registratiekosten, notariskosten, enz.. Momenteel wonen we in een huurappartement en zouden we hier zo snel mogelijk vanaf willen.

Doorheen de jaren hebben we flink kunnen sparen, waardoor we momenteel ongeveer €210.000 aan eigen middelen kunnen inbrengen.

Daarnaast heb ik in 2020 een stuk bouwgrond gekocht met de bedoeling om hierop te bouwen. Dat plan is er uiteindelijk niet van gekomen, omdat ik toen nog alleenstaand was en onvoldoende kon lenen bij de bank. Volgens een recente schatting van een makelaar heeft deze bouwgrond momenteel een waarde van ongeveer €130.000.

In totaal zouden we dus ongeveer €340.000 aan eigen middelen/vermogen kunnen inbrengen.

Daarnaast schat ik dat we ongeveer €40.000 van onze ouders zouden kunnen lenen. Daarmee komen we op ongeveer €380.000 die we zelf zouden kunnen financieren, waardoor er nog ongeveer €180.000 bij de bank geleend zou moeten worden.

Nu hebben we allebei een bedrijfswagen dus dat is al een kost minder. We hebben geen kinderen en een gezamenlijke netto inkomst van 5500€.

Nu komen we bij mijn eigenlijke vraag.

Mijn doel zou zijn om zo snel mogelijk volledig schuldenvrij te zijn. Volgens een online rekentool zou een lening van €180.000 aan een vaste rentevoet van 3,5% over 6 jaar neerkomen op ongeveer €2.770 per maand, met in totaal ongeveer €19.500 aan interesten.

Dat betekent dat we iets meer dan de helft van ons gezamenlijke netto-inkomen maandelijks aan de hypotheek zouden besteden.

Is dit volgens jullie een verstandige keuze? En denken jullie dat een bank hiermee akkoord zou gaan? Of mis ik ergens iets?

Alvast bedankt!