Not strictly CEDH but My friends and I are looking to play some high 4 / Fringe CEDH games, and to me Jeskai looks appealing with grindier blue and white Engines along with Compact Intuition / Gifts ungiven combo lines. I’m torn between a few commanders though, and I was looking for advice from people who’ve tried these out or have more competitive insight on these.
[[Shiko and Narset, Unified]] The more grindy option with card draw or duplicating countermagic to slow enemies win lines, but it might be a bit slow.
[[Hinata, Dawn Crowned]] Discounts my counter magic and Tutors / Dualcaster combos, but I’m worried it’s a bit clunky and will lead to kingmaking
[[Shiko, Paragon of the Way]] least keen on this option but I did see it mentioned for grabbing engines out of the graveyard and leaning into blink combos. I feel like it doesn’t do enough.

I would like some help with a deck I’m working on.

I have made some serious changes to my list recently. The main changes was I was able to snag a gemstone caverns, a git probe, Mindbreak trap, and best laid plans.

I swapped out alter of the brood and a couple of under performing cards.

The main win lines are as follows.
Thassa lines. Bloodchief ascension mindcrank lines, and foodchain lines utilizing Mothman or hullbreaker horror to generate infinite rad counters.

I’m open to changes but while some things look weird they have worked in the games I have played and while goldfishing I have consistently won by turns 2-5.

I’m definitely trying to learn and would definitely be open to any suggestions.

List below, please let me know what you think!

Been working on this list for a few years with the idea that Mothman had some potential that people were not seeing much of. I know that he has been played with a lot of counters matter and mill matters builds. But that’s not what I went for and with those builds he put up some results, not great but some.
This build isn’t like that, it’s purely combo driven with lines benefitting and unique to Mothman.

https://archidekt.com/decks/11630320/project_mothman_v12

There is some evidence that Mothman can do well

He top 8 in this tournament here

https://mail.mtgtop8.com/event?d=710093&e=67426&f=cEDH

I’m not saying he can be a tier one commander, but I do think he has more potential than expected and maybe deserves a look

https://moxfield.com/decks/WQ4-XC54xE-r1fY05ltOkg

I'm trying to put together a Mm'menon, the Right Hand cEDH viable deck, purely as my first competitive deck and my entry way into bracket 5 play. After all, what better way to learn than to push the limits of what I can play! But it feels like something isn't quite meshing with how the deck is built currently, and I'm hoping that someone may be able to see it.

First off, yes, I know Urza technically does what Mm'menon does but better and a mana cheaper, that's why he's in the list. Only reason I want to run the Jellyfish is because I have the alt art card so feels right to have it as the forefront of the deck (but for all I know I could swap the position of the two and it'd work fine). Second, I'm more than willing to make massive changes. Like I said, first foray into cEDH, I could be totally off course with what I have planned and it'll all fall apart (considering this deck has Aetherflux Reservoir as it's main wincon, and ThOracle as a secondary, it won't be hard to force this deck to a screeching halt). Any advice, anything I've got wrong, even just the smallest hint is appreciated! TIA <3

Hello! I initially built a bracket 4 Zacama deck that looped Zacama for a win, but I cut out cards like Gaea’s Cradle etc for a slower plan.

I wanted to see if Zacama is decent-ish as a cEDH commander and if there are any cuts from my list I can do to take it there. I think the graveyard lands package likely is too slow but I also don’t know too much about cEDH as a whole.

I was also wondering how people research into the current meta & recent lists / ideas in cEDH? Are there specific people I can follow that post stuff relative to the meta game?

Here’s my list as of now: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/01-08-26-Olk-zacama/

What does Jund need to become a good color combination? I'm referring to something already within its color identity. Of course counterspells would be useful, but it's never going to get them (except maybe blasts)

I recently proxied up a crystal inhuman princess deck. How many games should I give it before deciding this deck either isn't good or doesn't fit my play style? I probably have 40ish games on the deck.

I have recently been trying to find a Grixis commander that made me want to build a deck with it but I have been having a hard time finding one that feels right. My favorite commanders I play are Felothar the Steadfast, Aminatou Veil Piercer, Quintorius History Chaser, Rootha Mastering the Moment, Samut the Driving Force, Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir, and Ashling the Limitless.

I typically like to play decks that do something different than what that color normally does like reanimator in Boros or Big Spells in Izzet or have a sort of mini game/side quest attached to them like Miracle with Aminatou or Speed with Samut.

Of the different Grixis commanders I have looked at a few stand out to me, though I’m not sure how well they work in practice or what the average game with them is like. I was wondering if anyone could give me some insight.

[[Edea, Possessed Sorceress]]
[[Wick, the Whorled Mind]]
[[Marchesa, the Black Rose]]
[[Evelyn, the Covetous]]
[[Parnesse, the Subtle Brush]]
[[Kess, Dissident Mage]]
[[Lynde, Cheerful Tormentor]]
[[Sedris, the Traitor King]]

Can someone provide me with a discord invite to a Golgari channel? It's my favorite color combination, and I'm trying to get ideas for Witherbloom. Inb4 golgari not competitive

For Starters, I am a long time Kinnan player and built a very fast and fun Raph and Mikey deck, which got me thinking about Ruric Thar...

I've been working on a Ruric Thar list based around a pretty simple question:

Has the current cEDH meta gotten greedy enough that punishing people for simply playing their decks can actually be a viable strategy?

Decklist:
https://moxfield.com/decks/Nn67NZVKM0CCSPoMUT7j1Q

I'm not trying to build traditional Gruul stax.

I actually went the opposite direction. Instead, the deck stacks punishment effects like Ruric, Magebane Lizard, Rug of Smothering, Eidolon, Pyrostatic Pillar, Manabarbs, Scytheclaw Raptor, etc., and tries to get Ruric down T2-T3 with heavy fast mana.

The theory is that current cEDH decks are so efficient and greedy with life, nonbasics, cheap spells, tutors and interaction that we can attack the resource everyone assumes they have plenty of: life.

For example, Ruric + Magebane means four noncreature spells costs 34 life.

Add Rug and it's 44.

Ruric + Solphim makes every noncreature spell 12 damage.

I'm not stopping you from trying to combo.

I'm asking:

Can you finish the combo before your own spells kill you?

There's also Dualcaster + Twinflame as a compact backup win.

For people playing the current cEDH meta:

Does this strategy actually punish decks like Blue Farm, RogSi, Kinnan, Sisay, etc., or am I overestimating how much life pressure matters?

What looks strong? What looks terrible? What am I missing?

Feel free to tear the list apart. That's why I'm posting it.

Hi all,

I have played magic since Mirrodin block on and off and came back after an extended break about a year ago and started playing commander. I have recently gone down the cEDH rabbit hole and am starting to really want to play more of it. There isn't a cEDH presence at my LGS so I want to start playing online. With that as the intro here are the questions

1. What is the better online platform for cEDH and B4 play?
2. In online platforms how much chat is needed? I will be playing in the evening and would prefer not to wake the kids/wife but can find a quiet spot, I am also not the most social human in the world :laughing:
3. For online set up is a laptop and an external cam enough?
4. I am looking to start with Kinnan and proxy it is there a more beginner friendly list? I would prefer to steer away from straight Rhystic copy, is big flips a better option?
5. Is there anything else I should be looking at? I spend a lot of time on YouTube watching content like playing with power and play to win. Are there other channels I should be looking at? I am not sure if I will venture into actual tournaments at the moment and may even look at hosting ones at my LGS if I can talk them into it as I used to run and judge other TCG's years back when I used to work in a LGS

Thanks :smile:

Hey all. Wanted to see how everyone else feels about draws in “friendly” cEDH games. In other words, playing for a draw outside of tournaments. Personally I thinks it’s super goofy. However, I understand some might be practicing for a tourney and want interactions to follow that play style.

How do you all feel about it? Do you take draws outside of tournaments?

I am very new to piloting Magda and used the moxfield Magdanomicon as a jumping off point.

I'm curious as to why the deck doesn't run [[weftstalker ardent]] as a potential win condition. I understand there are likely good reasons and I would love to understand.

Looking for feedback on The Madcap Jester deck I have been working on.

Most Grixis cEDH decks focus on speed. This deck trades some speed for disruption. Rather than racing to a combo, it aims to remove key cards from opponents' libraries before they can be used, then turn those cards into resources through [[The Madcap Jester]]. Much like [[Etali, Primal Conqueror]] this deck is trying to take advantage of the homogenous nature of top level cEDH decks.
The result is a proactive stax-combo strategy. You pressure opposing win conditions, limit access to critical pieces, and create card advantage by casting cards exiled from your opponents' decks. The deck still retains compact cEDH finishes, but its primary identity is surgical resource denial backed by efficient combo lines.

https://moxfield.com/decks/nUigAbR9VHey2sXZEWjIWw

I’ve recently started trying out oppo and have found a lot of success with it as a early game slow the turbo down and to mess with sisay who seemingly just gets better and better with all the new legendaries.

I’d like to hear whether other people are using it and what they are seeing

Notably my meta is very turbo heavy but started to lean staxs

The recent period of cEDH has felt a bit stale to me. The last big change was the bans, and even though we have seen some new decks pop up, nothing really major has changed, leading to this feeling of stagnation. I just wanted to hear your opinions on the matter.

Two weeks before the invitational I interviewed Jonathan Foster, a Kinnan pilot who was having success with a different list based on consistent flips. Two weeks later Sterling took it to the invi and won. Here’s my interview with Jonathan. EP 11 - We Called It! Mana Dork Tribal takes down the Invitational 🏆
https://youtu.be/5tqwy7djR8s

https://youtu.be/zTTOG3-9kHM

This past weekend we Breach the Bay 2 took place, featuring a massive cEDH open event and the anticipated annual Topdeck Invitational making this the biggest weekend in cEDH. Today I'm going over the structure and top cuts of both of these events, giving an overview of how each event went down, and taking a look at high performing decks from both events.

Let me know which deck was your favorite and what you thought of this event down below!

Hi, I’m starting to play rogsi and the format as a whole, I have a spelltable tournament soon and I don’t know how to feel about necrodominance: it feeds the slop rhystic meta. It restricts hand size (if you can go all in at once). It needs to be bounced or bargained to breach out. I was thinking if it could be better to cut it from now (at least until I get more experienced) and just add back demonic counsel to the deck (I don’t like that tutor) or some other card (another last chance copy or strike it rich or another piece of interaction). What do you think? Thanks

Edit: thanks for the answers, I’ll keep necrodominance and see how it goes!

Here is the video of the Tier List

The Website post for people who can't watch the video

For people who've watched it/read the document, how do you feel about it?

Personally Im shocked to see Kinnan below top 10. But as much as I want to argue against it, I see the math behind it which makes me wonder how this work. Makes me want to reevaluate how I've been understanding power rankings, understanding the power of how these 99 good stuff commander decks are

Surprising to see YoshiThras over Rogthras too

The commander doesn't matter for this question since it's not part of the win condition. If it has to hit the field it means I have to get resources to get back into the game.

Newer cEDH player here.
I keep seeing Disruptor Flute in Tayam lists and wanted to ask people with more knowledge.

What are you naming most, mostly the usual cards to tax the combo, or are you using the activated-ability side too?

Thanks!

Does anyone know which LGS has an active Cedh scene? Preferably close to the Ames area?

TopDeck Invitational 2026 Breakdown

Blue Farm was still the most-played deck in the field, with 13 entries. Five made the Top Cut, giving it a 38.46% conversion rate, the highest of any deck with more than three players. It also took 5 of the Top 16 spots.

Kinnan had six entries and converted two of them for 33.33%, with Sterling Sellards ultimately winning the tournament. His Kinnan list; however, was extremely non-traditional. Thrasios/Tymna also put two players into the Top Cut from seven entries. On the other hand, notable misses were: Rog/Ishai going zero for seven, and Rog/Thras going zero for six.

It was very nice to see some "Not Meta" decks making the cut at the highest level: Kaalia, Hashaton, Super-Skrull and Rona. The brewers advantage or "Specialist" style piloting ultimately can still compete at any level.

Here are the numbers for the most-played decks:

• Blue Farm: 13 entries, 5 Top Cuts, 38.46%
• Kinnan: 6 entries, 2 Top Cuts, 33.33%
• Thrasios/Tymna: 7 entries, 2 Top Cuts, 28.57%
• Rog/Ishai: 7 entries, 0 Top Cuts
• Rograkh/Thras: 6 entries, 0 Top Cuts

As for Seat Win % and draw rate it still very much Seat 1's advantage:

At the highest level it is still very apparent that Seat 4 has serious issues. None of the Seat 4's in the Top 16 were able to convert into the finals, and it maintained below a 12% win-rate the entire tournament. Likely just variance, it is interesting to see seat 3 with a slightly hire win-rate than seat 2. I don't have the answer to solving the seat 4 issues, but I do believe that working towards a solution for Seat 4 in some fashion will ultimately help out the high percentage of draws. There are numerous occasions where Seat 4 will feel their only option is to force a draw before the game begins and especially if they are on a lower mulligan.

Blue Farm didn’t win the final pod, but it was still the best deck across the tournament as a whole. It had the most players, the most Top Cuts and the best conversion rate among the decks with a decent number of entries. Kinnan got the trophy, but Blue Farm is still very much Blue Farm. But as a little note, don't be afraid to play something spicy/different at events, there is always space for creative brewers in top cuts.

Finals

Sterling won with a new Kinnan list that he credited Jonathan Foster with creating. It was a mana-dork-heavy build with some spicy choices, most notably Pili-Pala and Knacksaw Clique. Knacksaw Clique ended up being the key card in the finals. Sterling could repeatedly activate it while over the top of any interaction, allowing him to exile an opponent’s entire library and cast any cards removed.

What stood out even more than the deck was how Sterling handled himself during the final pod.

There were deals involving his Kinnan spins where the exact terms apparently weren’t completely clear. Instead of using that uncertainty to his advantage, Sterling honored the deals in a way that restricted his own ability to win severely. At times, it honestly felt like he was being overly fair to his own detriment.

And he still won.

People sometimes talk about lying, twisting deals, or looking for technical loopholes as if those things are required to win in cEDH. Sterling showed they aren’t. You can keep your deals, play honestly, show good sportsmanship and still win one of the biggest tournaments in the format.

But the biggest takeaway from the finals is that you can keep your word, avoid angle-shooting and still win at the highest level.

(But I would've put a Marvin Activation on the stack immediately)

Recently moved to central TX. Would like to make bi-weekly trips to Austin for some games. What is the “best” place to play chill groups? I enjoy casual and fun cEDH with other chill casual groups over tEDH mindset groups. I also play a bit of bracket 2-4 as well, I just enjoy cEDH the most. I do plan on occasional tournaments. Recommendations are greatly appreciated!

Why isn't [[Oppression]] played to counter mass card draw? Is there a deck that could play it and benefit from it?