For this post whataboutism is defined as deflecting an issue by raising a different issue or accusing the other person of hypocrisy, and straw manning is defined as mishandling an opponent's argument by distorting, exaggerating, or oversimplifying it to make it easier to attack.
Not all "what about" questions are bad. It depends on whether you are actually trying to help solve the problem.
A good example of this is if I post, "We should ban cats from going outside so they stop killing birds," it is totally fair to ask, "What about stray cats with no homes? What do we do with them?" This is a good question because it points out a real problem with the plan. Also notice how I said cats as a whole and did not specify that I was referring to pet cats, therefore it’s not unreasonable for people to question the logistics*.*
I recently posted that it should be mandatory for girls over 16 to be tested for uterine health conditions (like PCOS or endometriosis). As someone who has endometriosis and friends with same and other uterine conditions, these illnesses mess with hormones and make it hard to focus during exams. Putting it on their medical record would help them get extra help during tests. It would also be beneficial for girls with parents who don’t take their health seriously.
Whether you agree with my plan or not is not the point of this post you’re reading. The problem is that people instantly commented “Well, what about boys? Boys have hormone problems too!"
Bringing up boys on a post about uterine health fails basic logic for two reasons.
It creates a fake fight (Straw Man), I argued, "We should help girls with uterine conditions." Commenters twisted that to mean, "Only girls matter, and I hate boys." That is completely fake.
It assumes care is limited (Whataboutism), Helping one group does not mean you are taking away help from another group.
Also, if you’re born a boy, right, you don’t have a uterus, so boys have no relevance in the discussion.
Also, often times the OP will clarify or make exceptions in their post (for example, Everyone should get vaccinated against cancer …. except for people with autism or those allergic to the vaccine) and people will still go what about autistic people and those allergic?
I hate it when people twist the conversation just to feel included. If you want to talk about boys' health, go make your own post about it. Stop derailing ours.
At the end of the day, saying "I want to help one group" does not mean "I hate everyone else." Healthy debates only work when people actually listen to the specific topic being discussed. If you cannot look at a post about uterine health without shouting, "Well, what about boys?" you are not helping. You are just derailing the conversation. If you want to talk about a different issue, go make your own thread. Stop ruining everyone else's posts with textbook internet brain rot.