Well, as the title say, share please your best non romance fanfic (yours or from other people), show me which fanfics (one shots, drabbles, long fics etc) have the best dynamic between siblings, parents and childrens, friends, comrades, protector and protected, teacher and student, uncles and nephews, godfathers and godchildren, etc, not necessary good in a moral compass way, but good writing in general.

I started reading AGOT a few weeks ago and while reading good fanfics on ao3, I just happened to want to read other stuff that is not romance (which cool, I love it too) because I YEARN to read something tragic, something about love in other forms; something about stannis and renly and robert and failed family relationships for example

So, share it if you have something in mind!♡

Hello all! I recently made this post on a different asoiaf reddit, but they didn't seem to enjoy the poll idea. So I ask you maesters what you believe to be the man power for the crownlands, I know they should be around 15k, so none of the polls answers will go beyond that total. I would love to poll about a different house every couple of days, but I understand if that would be too repeative for this sub. This is just a little hobby of mine, and I enjoy hearing people opinions so my math can be more than just what I think. Anyways, I ask you people's, which of the options do you best believe depicts the man power of House Staunton of Rooks Rest, a pretty minor House that has land by the narrow sea. Rooks Rest is the last castle before Crack Claw point, I believe they may be of Andal origin, and that's simply where they landed.

An outside-context problem is when something dramatic happens and the characters, in a setting, have no frame of reference to know what it's all about, and could never have anticipated the fact. For example, when the daughter of some lord happens to be the reincarnation of a violent norse goddess.

Here are three examples of that OCP being a female character:

Götterdämmerung

Years after being shunted into the body of the God-Queen Marika, a self-insert bumbles her way across Westeros.

(MCU/ASOIAF) The Breaker of the Oceans

The death of Asgard spelled her own doom. She should've died. She did die. But, somehow, she's alive again, reborn. And she's determined to make the most of her second life, diminished though she was. Hela Greyjoy is unleashed upon the World of Ice and Fire.

From the before- in the after

Visella used to be someone else. She always knew that, even in her earliest memories of this new life.

This new life came with a really fucked up family.

………

A person in another world dies, is reincarnated, and takes her annoyingly Targaryen-like Quirk with her. She is reborn as Aegon II’s older twin sister.

(No MHA knowledge needed to read)

Please, help me find some more stories like this, with a main character who is also an outside-context problem.

PS: I suspect (with zero proof, just my instincts) that some parts of Breaker of the Oceans were written with AI assistance, but the story is still pretty good for what it's worth.

Tommen Baratheon and Tywin Lannister seem to serve as thematic foils to one another. While Tywin represents absolute, cynical pragmatism and views family purely as a political legacy, Tommen stands for the vulnerable casualty of that ambition. The only direct echo of their characters is theirs hared approach to kingship—both deeply recognize that a ruler requires wisdom above holiness, justice, or brute strength, as famously discussed between the two.

Tywin ruthlessly manipulates the kingdom and his own children to ensure the Lannister legacy endures. Tommen, however, is the ultimate product of this ambition—a gentle boy whose kingship has no autonomy whatsoever. Tywin's cold, calculating nature ultimately alienates his own family and directly leads to his assassination. In contrast, Tommen’s empathetic and naive nature makes him ill-suited for the ruthless game of thrones.

But due to his age and inexperience, Tommen is very much like his great-grandfather Tytos Lannister the Toothless Lion. The most notable aspect is that the both of them are easily exploited by the people around him. As mentioned, for Tommen its due to his age and inexperience. And doesn't even have someone to steer things right after or offer better guidance due to the death of both Tywin and Kevan.

Tommen's Future: Uncle Kevan

That actually makes me think about the notion of Tommen's future. Meaning the person he could be like in the event that he likely survives. While I often imagined that he could become a hardened person to be someone similar to Tywin, I've come to realize that he already has parallels with another Lannister: his uncle Kevan.

Both inherit immense power following sudden family tragedies. Tommen is crowned King at a very young age after the death and poisoning of his brother Joffrey, and Kevan becomes Lord Regent of the Seven Kingdoms after Tywin’s murder. Unlike their predecessors—Joffrey’s sadistic cruelty and Cersei’s paranoia—both Tommen and Kevan genuinely seek the realm's good. Tommen simply wants harmony (and to play with his cats), while Kevan acts as the steady administrator attempting to clean up Cersei’s messes.

The overarching theme of second sons/younger siblings—like Stannis and Kevan—is present as well. Kevan lived all his life as Tywin’s shadow and loyal younger brother. Similarly, Tommen’s tragedy stems from being the "spare" to his tyrannical older brother Joffrey, being thrust into a position of authority he is too young and pliable to manage. Something that Tywin was hoping to take advantage of to mold him into his own version of an ideal king.

Neither one of them was born to be the ultimate decision-maker; Kevan willingly and happily deferred to his older brother Tywin, and Tommen naturally defers to authority figures like his mother, wife Margaery, and Kevan himself due to his age and inexperience. They both are inherently kind-hearted, soft-tempered, and compliant in a world that requires cutthroat cruelty to survive. Both lack the viciousness required to maintain power in King's Landing. Tommen is gentle, forgiving, and easily cowed. Kevan is a capable administrator and soldier but lacks the political ruthlessness of Tywin or Cersei. Likely a reason as to why he preferred to defer to Tywin in the first place, as he doesn't seem to have the stomach for the more gruesome parts of war, despite being a veteran.

In A Dance with Dragons, Tommen's gentleness is perfectly reflected when he plays with his three kittens (Ser Pounce, Lady Whiskers, and Boots), while Kevan is consistently characterized by his quiet tolerance and support for the young King and the vulnerable members of his family. In A Feast for Crows, after Tywin dies and Cersei's grip on the realm becomes destructive, Kevan becomes a vital source of stability for Tommen. Kevan recognizes Tommen's sweet nature and did his best to shield the young King from Cersei’s tyrannical influence, effectively stepping in as a competent father-figure and Hand, until his own demise.

Tygett and Tommen: The Overshadowed

There is a small amount of Tygett in Tommen as well. Despite being a capable and courageous knight, Tygett was widely known for being one of the most amiable and genuinely kind members of the Lannister family. He was overshadowed by his brother Tywin, just as Tommen was initially the overshadowed younger brother to the sadistic Joffrey. Both characters were suffocated by their powerful male relatives. Genna Lannister famously noted that the shadow Tywin cast was so long and black that his brothers struggled to find "a little sun," making Tygett increasingly angry as he could never match Tywin. Tommen himself is overshadowed by Joffrey in large part due to Cersei lamenting that he's not like Joffrey.

Tygett possessed a true fighter's spirit but lacked the political shrewdness and ruthlessness that defined Tywin. Tommen's "decent" nature translates into political passivity and extreme malleability, ultimately leading him to yield royal authority to the Faith Militant. They both also harbor immense affection for Tyrion. Both characters represent the "decent" or more compassionate side of the Lannister bloodline, which often acts as a foil to the cold ruthless ambition of Tywin, Cersei, or Joffrey.

Second Sons: Tyrion and Tommen

Tommen and Tyrion do share some common ground surprisingly. Both Tommen and Tyrion possess a basic human empathy that contrasts sharply with Tywin, Cersei, and Joffrey's sadism. Unlike Joffrey, Tommen is deeply fond of Tyrion, likely recognizing a kindred, gentle spirit in his uncle amid a toxic household. Both are physically or temperamentally unsuited for the brutal expectations of Westerosi lordship—Tyrion due to his stature, Tommen due to his extreme meekness.

They also do have a love of literature. Of course, Tommen's love of reading is simply ranged to simple stories that children love. Tyrion loves reading and gaining knowledge. But they both have "escapist" tendencies. Tyrion dives into his books not just for knowledge, but in an effort to escape into something else to deal with his family's cruelty. One could say that Tommen does the same with his playing with his kittens.

They ultimately suffer under Cersei’s toxic control—Tyrion through bitter rejection and trial, and Tommen through her suffocating coddling and emotional manipulation. Both become alienated and marginalized by Cersei, who views Tommen's meekness as a dangerous flaw and Tyrion as a lifelong monster. Ironically, she's not wrong about Tommen's meekness, but it's something that she exploits. She uses guilt, emotional manipulation, and intimidation to force him into compliance, expecting him to be a docile puppet compared to Joffrey. And then dislikes it when Tommen shows cases of being "strong".

And this is something that Cersei does with Tyrion as well. She repeatedly undermines his endeavors, as Cersei wants absolute power as the queen mother and views Tyrion’s sharp intellect and competence as a direct challenge to her authority. Cersei views and believes herself as a political mastermind, but she feels deeply threatened by Tyrion's sharp intellect and cynical wits. It could be subconscious hint of envy. But the rest of the time, as later revealed thru her own POV, it's largely rooted in paranoia due to the valonquar prophecy.

Like Father, Like Son?

Although Tommen doesn't know that Jaime is his biological father, the two shared a passive, sensitive nature in stark contrast to Joffrey's cruelty. Jaime later viewed Tommen with hidden fondness and guilt, wishing he could protect him from the harsh realities of the Iron Throne.

Jaime is bound by the Kingsguard and his toxic devotion to Cersei, while Tommen is trapped on the Iron Throne as a puppet king manipulated by his mother and the religious zealots commanded by the High Sparrow. Both are defined by a high-status royal uniform (the white cloak and the crown) that acts as a gilded cage. Tommen tries desperately to be a "good king" within a system controlled by his mother and anyone around him like the High Sparrow and the Tyrells, just as Jaime tried to preserve his honor inside a corrupt Kingsguard.

Jaime transitions from a distant uncle into a protective, guiding figure for Tommen, offering quiet advice on how to endure the horrors of the world—implicitly passing down the emotional defense mechanisms Jaime himself learned under Tywin and Aerys. Jaime explicitly advises Tommen on how to endure the horrors of the world—by fighting, laughing, or learning to "go away inside"—mirroring the exact defense mechanism Jaime used to survive Aerys's court.

If anything, Tommen is Jaime's more better qualities come to light. Without all the armor, the literal and the metaphorical. Beneath all the snark and cynicism, Jaime is at heart a rather decent person. But unlike Jaime, Tommen doesn't seem to have a warrior's spirit or prowess. He dislikes watching martial games or violence and is easily frightened by intimidating fighters like Sandor Clegane.

That may have changed somewhat, as before he did seem to have an interest in knighthood and practiced sword-fighting against a quintain. He does ask have Ser Loras Tyrell named as master-at-arms so he can train, but Cersei blocks the request out of jealousy and paranoia over Tyrell influence, likely stunting another type of growth that Tommen would benefit from.

Myrcella and Genna: Proud Lionesses

But we can't forget Myrcella. As Arya has said, women are important too. If Tommen is most likely to be like Kevan, what would Myrcella be like if she survives? Well, we have another example within the senior branch of Lannisters for her: Genna.

Both serve as polar opposites to their immediate leaders. Genna bluntly defied Tywin by recognizing that Tyrion—not Jaime—was his true heir. Myrcella is noted by Tyrion to have Cersei's beauty but none of her mother's dark nature. This subversion mirrors Genna, who lacked the ruthless, cold ambition of her brother Tywin but possessed incredible emotional intelligence and shrewdness, using it to keep her family grounded.

Genna is known for her political shrewdness and observational skills, using them to keep the peace and stabilize the family. Myrcella similarly exhibits a quiet intelligence, courage, and high dignity, willingly accepting her betrothal to Dorne without weeping or throwing tantrums. They both represent ideals and concepts that Cersei lacked and may never had.

Myrcella more or less represents the innocence and idealism that Cersei lacks or once had at that point in time. Despite being the product of incest, Myrcella is sweet, courteous, and diplomatic. Where Cersei views the world through paranoia and madness, Myrcella embraces her duty and uses soft power, genuine affection, and charm to forge real alliances in Dorne. Despite Cersei's cruelty and Joffrey's sadism, Myrcella embodies the idealized, intelligent, and courageous aspects of the Lannister legacy. Genna herself represents the pragmatism and sharp-witted political intelligence that Cersei lacks. A true daughter of House Lannister, Genna possesses a deep understanding of human nature and house loyalty. She famously keeps her head during crises (like when she scolds her Frey in-laws or sizes up her nephews) and operates effectively behind the scenes, contrasting sharply with Cersei's explosive, self-destructive rule.

They hold and use power differently and more effectively then Cersei as well. Genna commands respect naturally through wisdom and wit. Myrcella earns the loyalty of the Dornish simply by being kind and adaptable to her surroundings. Compared to Cersei, who tries to brute force anything that doesn't really go her way. Genna famously assesses the political landscape and identifies Tyrion as the true inheritor of Tywin’s strategic mind. Similarly, Myrcella displays an acute awareness of the political maneuvering around her, outmaneuvering Prince Trystane in cyvasse and grasping the nuances of the Dornish succession.

The Beauty and the Imp

It's actually because of her intelligence, Myrcella is arguably similar to her infamous uncle Tyrion. Each has an abusive elder sibling of the opposite gender (Cersei for Tyrion, Joffrey for Myrcella) and a sibling they are close to (Jaime for Tyrion, Tommen for Myrcella) and are often overlooked for different reasons by a parent of the same sex (Myrcella because she's a girl, Tyrion because he's a dwarf) despite having potential for more.

Both are used as political pawns by Cersei or Tywin, though Tyrion evolves into an active player while Myrcella remains an innocent casualty of southern game-playing, due to Arianne's machinations. Unlike Joffrey, who terrifies and abuses everyone around him, like Tommen, Myrcella treats Tyrion with genuine warmth and respect, which consistently brings out Tyrion’s softer, protective instincts. Tyrion did ship Myrcella away to Dorne to secure an alliance but it was ultimately to protect her, treating her with care unlike the rest of their kin.

Tyrion notes that Myrcella is remarkably smart, brave, and perceptive for her age, mirroring his own strategic mind. Especially poignant as she repeatedly beats Trystane in cyvasse. Myrcella handles her displacement in Dorne with unexpected grace and adaptability, mirroring Tyrion's own survival skills in hostile environment.

And rather unfortunately, both of them suffer terribly from the violent impulses of their dynasty; Tyrion is scapegoated and ultimately outcast following his trial, while Myrcella is ultimately reduced to collateral damage in the endless power struggles of Westeros.

The Overlooked: Myrcella and Kevan

Much like with Tommen, Myrcella has some common ground with Kevan Lannister. They are both sensible, dutiful figures who contrast with Cersei's destructive nature. Unlike Cersei, who is driven by paranoia, cruelty, and a volatile thirst for power, both Kevan and Myrcella show remarkable composure, dignity, and common sense under pressure.

When parting with her family or facing danger, Myrcella comforts others and behaves with mature courage rather than flying into a rage or a selfish panic. This actually matches Kevan's ability to keep a cool head during crises. Similarly, Kevan acts as the steady hand who cleans up Cersei’s political messes, prioritizing institutional stability and family survival over personal malice. Kevan operates as a seasoned player of the game—albeit one ultimately vulnerable to Varys’s plots—while Myrcella is thrust into political scheming as a young pawn by Arianne Martell. Myrcella handles her political role in Dorne with poise and composure, mirroring Kevan’s loyal, steady, and sensible counsel as a stabilizing force in King's Landing,

While Cersei lets paranoia and narcissism rule her actions, Myrcella and Kevan display a functional, calm intelligence that earns the quiet respect of outsiders like Tyrion. Myrcella comforts her younger brother Tommen, mirroring how Kevan steadily supports the family and tries to guide Tommen as Hand of the King later in the series. Both of them serve as narrative foils to show that not all Lannisters are consumed by madness or cruelty; they represent the functional, graceful potential of the house if uncorrupted by power-lust. Myrcella displays quiet courage, kindness, and poise, while Kevan acts as a dutiful, grounded, and practical administrator rather than a vicious tyrant. Their moderate, sensible approaches highlight how far gone Cersei and Tywin’s methods are, serving as tragic contrasts to the violent impulses dominating the Iron Throne.

Despite their gentle nature and appearances, both Myrcella and Kevan represent legitimate threats or anchors to stability. Myrcella’s functional claim makes her a target for mutilation in regional power plays, while Kevan’s brief competence as Lord Regent makes him a final, necessary target for elimination by Varys to throw the capital into total chaos.

Like Father, Like Daughter

Myrcella is surprisingly similar to Jaime herself. Despite being raised as a princess, she shares Jaime's underlying grace and physical/emotional resilience.

When leaving King's Landing for Dorne, Myrcella comforts her crying brother Tommen and displays composed bravery, strangely mirroring the noble ideals Jaime strives for beneath his cynical shell. Tyrion and other observers note that Myrcella is very much a Lannister in spirit—inheriting Jaime’s distinct mental fortitude rather than the erratic volatility of Cersei or the bluster of her "father" Robert Baratheon.

While Jaime often struggles with what it means to be a real knight versus the dishonor of his reputation; Myrcella naturally embodies the grace and gentle honor that Jaime wishes he possesses. Myrcella has actually inherited Jaime's calm reason rather than Cersei's volatile malice, representing the best parts of his more hidden nature and qualities he believes he lost over the years.

Potential Future Versions

Due to Cersei's prophecy, it seems as if these two lovable lions will be put down. In one way or another.

Tywin had three children (Jaime, Cersei and Tyrion) but he focused on Jaime while ignoring the other two. Cersei was one of the ignored ones and she hated it. However, as a paradox, she repeated the pattern. She also had three children but she focused heavily on Joffrey while basically ignoring Tommen and Myrcella. Since the two younger children were practically raised by septas and nannies and had limited contact with Cersei, they grew up to be surprisingly decent.

But what do you think? How will Tommen and Myrcella be like in the likely event that they grow into adults? Please comment respectfully.

Let's say he is valerion Targaryen, younger brother of vaella born in 225 AC maybe? His father daeron died sometimes in 228 to 231 of syphilis. Then would valerion directly be named heir ? In 233 after maekar death. Valerion would be 8. Regency time will be very long so would he be chosen king or it will go to aegon like in canon ? Would he marry his sister vaella or cousin shaera ?

Or in addition to Bran; either works. I'm just curious to see if anyone's written it or how that would work out.

Obviously, this would be a stretch, given the reasons Bran was left behind and the reasons Sansa went south, but even if its a bit contrived I would be interested.

Or even if the Three Eyed Crow reached out to her despite her going south...

Title: A Prince Unpromised

Author: VaeronTargaryen

Rating: Mature

Language: English

Length: 50,193

Status: Ongoing

Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/85145791/chapters/244190041

Summary:

So I expected to get to Vaeron's reunion with his dear old dad in this chapter, it was supposed to be around the length as the last one, but the more I wrote the more and more Vaeron just kept pissing off Rhaegar and getting annoyed with him in turn. Because sibling rivalries are always fun, right?

So now they sorta backed off from each other and the previously longer chapter has become split into two POVs. One posted now and the next probably either later this week or the next depending on my work schedule. This is for the best, I think, since Vaeron's meeting with Aerys demands a direct POV anyways. I already have the plot and dialogue I want in my head, so the next chapter should be out relatively soon.

Quick run through, this is for a ttrpg I’m working on, it’s set some time during the reign of King Aerys II before the defiance of Duskendale. Also what I had in the first post, the vale and Dorne have their own sects very different from the rest of the south. The rest of the south have a very loosely defined beliefs with the general outline being defined by the starry sept but there is a somewhat ever growing split between that and the great sept of Baelor. Ok some more ideas I’m working with:

1. historically Dragonstone, Driftmark, and Claw Isle, all have historically had a sizable population who worshipped Valyrian polytheism, this was ended during the reign of Baelor the blessed with a small crusade of sorts. But they still maintain some traditions.

2. the gods eye has a large amount of old gods following tribal communities around it. As does Oldstone.

3. kingslanding has neighborhoods of R’hllor followers(and other faiths but they’re the main ones) even before Thoros or Mel arrived. But they’re not influential.

4. so some context first: I’m working with the idea that in the area that once was Andalos there is a Kingdom of nomadic people of Andal descent who were valyrianized of sorts. Anyway, they would follow a religion based around seven deities from the Valyrian pantheon that have each been loosely assigned one of the seven archetypes of the faith. Now to explain this I’m using Greek gods I’m basing them on to get the point across because I don’t have names yet. Poseidon = the father, Demeter = the mother, Hephaestus = the Smith, Artemis = the maid, Athena = the Crone, Ares = the warrior(duh), and obviously Thanatos = the stranger.

5. some places beyond the wall see Giants as deities. Or embodiments of the old gods.

Recently, I’ve seen some Star Wars crossovers with ASOIAF. There are very few of them, despite both universes having a lot of potential for great crossovers, so I wanted to discuss: how do you think the people of Westeros would react to the Jedi and the Force?

Let’s say a Jedi crashes in Westeros. With the Jedi Order being centered around peace and justice, being brought into a world without much of either would be very interesting to explore.

And what about Westeros itself? What would the nobles' reaction be to the feats a Jedi can perform? And the smallfolk? Would their first assumption be that the Jedi is a sorcerer? After all, there is some magic in Westeros.

And then there’s the lightsaber. But I think the ideological aspect is the most interesting part. Would the people of Westeros find the Jedi too strange? Someone who puts themselves in danger to save others, someone who doesn’t see a difference between nobles and smallfolk, someone who speaks about a higher power that is very different from the religions they know, etc.

Are there any fans of both Star Wars and A Song of Ice and Fire around who would like to share their thoughts on this?

Scenario: the MC is forced to land his or her flying craft in the area west of the Orange Shore. MC is render unconscious but physical unharmed.

The MC wakes up just in time to see large forces of warriors and soldiers fighting over looting rights. Good thing the MC is more than a match for all of them so he drives them off and captures a few. Thankfully the ship is still flight-capable but not space/dimension-worthy to travel.

Once secure, the MC "asks" his or her prisoners general info about the land and it's people. With the little information in hand, the MC realizes there's one viable place to setup: ruins of Chroyane.

It doesn't deter the MC. He or she has tools and abilities to wrest control of the ruin and it's environs plus deal with other issues to found a settlement.

So the MC flies off to lay claim to the city while leaving enough forces for guard and recover efforts on the crash site. The MC is half-entertaining the idea to make it a connecting settlement once he or she creates a canal.

That being said, the MC is not a SI so he or she has no full knowledge of Essos.

Now what geographical, territorial and political hurdles the MC will face this long-term project?

I'm not gonna get anyone's hopes up and claim this is something in the works, right now it's more-so a worldbuilding thing. The premise is basically a dragonlord (Aurion, most likely) unrelated to the Targaryens, surviving the Doom and the murders of dragonlords all across Essos then deciding on being either Aegon the Conqueror before Aegon or this world's Aurelian crossed with Alexander the Great.

The character himself is an SI and I'm thinking since I kinda wanna depict him as more of a man-shaped force bending the world to his will from outside perspectives so his own perspective will either be non-existent or rare. He views himself as somewhat better than ASOIAF's inhabitants because he's from our world of law, institutions, and overall order and decides (and this is a sorta desperation for something familiar) to bring some of that via force, feeling that he's uniquely qualified to "civilize" GRRM's world which helps his rationalize his conquests as "necessary evils". There's also some ego involved; he wants to keep the power he's been given access to in his new life and become someone remembered like how Alexander the Great and Augustus Caesar were.

He's the man who improved the lives of millions by breaking the cultures and religions of hundreds of thousands and should (at least historically) be depicted as this beautiful paternal figure who spread prosperity and enlightenment who was also a brutal conqueror who put down rebellions, conquered cities, and erased entire cultures for his ambitions. He's the dragonlord who introduced liberalism to GRRM's world. Man. Monster. Sovereign. Oppressor. Builder. Destroyer.

The question of staying in the east or going west is maybe the deciding factor of this whole thing because there's reasons for both. If Aurion stays east, he stitches the Freehold back together under him by reconquering former territories and then dealing with invading Dothraki and Westerosi crusaders while having to play politics. Heading for Westeros lets him become Aegon the Conqueror one hundred and two years before he's born (if he's born) and maybe doing things better by building a better city than King's Landing, establishing succession, and even laws about who can or can't claim a dragon. I have established Aurion as someone who looks at things on a macro-level so with him knowing about the Long Night and the Others and how they'll come from Beyond the Wall, it would be in character for him to take Westeros now as it would probably put his descendants in a better position than having to fight the dead after they've taken a significant chunk of Westeros.

Annnnnnd that's the gambit. Questions, comments, suggestions, and concerns are always welcome.

I find scenarios where Jon Arryn and Lysa have an older, healthy child very interesting, since it changes canon quite a bit and makes room for an OC to influence events. Usually, though, these fics give Jon Arryn a son, so I was wondering: how might an Arryn daughter change things?

First, let's say she was born in 283 AC, meaning Lysa got pregnant on her wedding night, just like Catelyn.

I'm not sure what her name would be. Do you think Lysa would get to name her after her mother, or would she choose an Arryn name? Jon would likely still be at war when she was born.

She would likely be raised in King's Landing, and Lysa might have less influence over her than she had over Little Robin, since this was early in her marriage. Do you think she would have gotten along with the royal children?

Little Robin would still be born, since Jon Arryn would still need heirs. Would she get along with her brother? What about her father and mother? Maybe Lysa resented her for not being Baelish's child.

How do you think the existence of a daughter for Jon Arryn might change canon?

Something that always bothered me a bit in both canon and many fanfics is the role of the Stormlander lords and knights. From everything we know about Robert's Rebellion, the Stormlander nobility loved Robert. Even rebel ones, like House Fell, quickly swung to Robert. These people followed Robert to the end.

Yet despite this, the Stormlands quickly declare for Renly even before Stannis' letters of of the bastards. Logically, they would die for Robert's legacy, but stories often point them toward Renly immediately. While some could argue that Renly was their lord paramount, he didn't even spend much time in Storm's End. Instead, he was in King's Landing, where just like Robert, surrounded himself with non-Stormlanders.

Based on the world building, there should be a split between older Stormlords loyal to Robert's memory, younger ones loyal to Renly, and those switching to Stannis because of his letter. Instead, all we get in canon and many fanfics is a collection of lords/knights who become the Baratheon army.

Title: ​Ashes of the Dragon

Author: caesar

Language: English

Length: 27k

Status: Ongoing

link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/82671826/chapters/244392831

Summary: What if Aegon II had died, but Daeron had survived?

I am a big fan of random historical events, especially ones that are known as pivotal points in history and are known for changing the world at large.

I understand that Dance of Dragons is based on The Anarchy that occurred in England in the 1100s, which was one of the most violent and chaotic times in English history. However, the Anarchy primarily occurred due to the The White Ship Disaster which killed the then king Henry I's legitimate male heir. This pushed him to make his only legitimate child, Empress Matilda, his heir. After his death, she was later usurped by her uncle Stephen, which began the Anarchy. It is actually one of the most interesting events in history in my book.

Which is why I wish to propose a scenario in which the Targaryens had their own White Ship disaster or Erfurt Latrine Disaster in this case during Viserys I's reign, but it actually led to a semi-peaceful era. The main claimants to the throne would die without being involved in a disastrous war, instead dying in a completely unrelated accident. This would leave the survivors desperate to band together to maintain their position as the royal family.

 In this scenario, the Great Hall collapses into a sinkhole due to the various tunnels made by Maegor and also expanded by Jaehaerys and Viserys. The throne floor gives way when Vaemond Velaryon is challenging the claims of Rhaenyra's sons. The collapse kills her and her children, the Velaryons in the throne room, which include Corlys and his brothers, and her supporters that day, including Daemon, some Crownland heirs, and a few of her Dragonstone vassals as well. Queen Alicent, all her children except Daeron, and her supporters, including the main Lannister family , also die in the collapse. Her family members, such as Lord Hightower, along with representatives of his reach vassals and other supporters, die as well. The disaster basically kills all the main claimants to the throne and royal family members, except Rhaenys, who is tired of the charade and kept Baela and Rhaena at home, saving their lives. Baela stuck out on Moondancer and saw the aftermath.

The only remaining Targaryen family members are Daeron, Rhaenys, and her twin granddaughters. Rhaenys declares herself Queen Regent and negotiates with the remaining Hightowers to name Daeron heir and betroth him to Baela. Rhaena becomes Lady of Driftmark.

The only other serious contender for the throne is Borros, who makes a play for it when he initially believes that everyone except Daeron is dead. Rhaenys makes him take the Black when he tries to take over the city and names Cassandra heir. The Westerlands are in turmoil, as the Lannisters and most of the Reach are also in turmoil because their main heirs or lords died in the disaster. The same is true for the Crownlands.The Vale is not really affected, so Jeyne Arryn supports Rhaenys due to practicality. The North is always isolated, while the Riverlands also support Rhaenys.

The Targaryens currently have almost all of their adult family members and capable dragon riders gone. They also literally lose the Iron Throne, which collapses into the sinkhole. The Red Keep is gradually collapsing, leaving them without a royal palace and forcing people to evacuate the royal capital due to fear of another collapse.

Alicent has only girls, and 4 children like canon.

What happens with the Strongs?

-- I'm not giving an excact year because i havent decided that but definitely before 281 and definitely after Tyrion's birth / Joanna's death.
-- Let's say the SI thinks he's a real piece of shit and she just has to free herself of him, no matter how irrational or whatnot this might be or not be.
-- However she's very much rational enough to know this should be done in a manner that couldn't possibly ever be traced back to her.
-- She'd also like to avoid negatively affecting her position in other ways besides being caught.
-- Ideally not getting anyone else (who isnt a particularly unlikable person themselves) killed.

Odd idea but pretty much if Arthur actually acted like a knight and not a bling lapdog. If Rhaegar discussed the plan with Arthur and he stopped the folly or turned on him during the absconding with Lyanna?

I can imagine the butterfly effect being that he would be branded a traitor but should he reveal Rhaegar's plan he would likely get Dorne on his side and cause a succession crisis alongside the events that caused the rebellion if Cregan and Brandon stark would have burned by the time Rhaegar's folly was revealed.

(Yes I am filled with spite towards Rhaegar; why do you ask?)

I’m writing a hotd fanfic and was planning to use Adelaide Kane face claim which of course everyone uses. But I’ve always liked steering clear of the obvious choices for my female leads' appearances for all of my other fics.

Plus, I wanted to go for someone with Valyrian features, but my God it’s been really hard. Does anyone have recommendations for actresses who have scene packs available (I like making edits for my fics, so that’s really important to me) and aren't the usual like Lucrezia, Daenerys, or young Rhaenyra?

Hey everyone, I had another what-if scenario pop in my head.

What if Prince Aemon and Lady Jocelyn had a son? Let's say this child was born around the year 88, give or take. Let's name him Aerion. But in this AU timeline, Lady Jocelyn dies during childbirth. Aemon still dies at Tarth in the year 92, leaving behind Rhaenys and Aerion.

The years pass, and Aerion is raised by Rhaenys alongside Laena and Laenor. Then Baelon dies as in canon.

Now my question is, would King Jaehaerys make Aerion heir over Rhaenys and Viserys? This would probably make Corlys somewhat angry for choosing Rhaenys since she is firstborn, but then he would push for Aerion to marry Laena, thus still having his blood in the throne.

Or

Would Jaehaerys still call for a great council to choose the next heir since he probably thinks Aerion is still too young? And in this chase the great council still selects Viserys to be king. In this case, Jaehaerys is not just pissing off Corlys and Rhaenys. Corlys is upset for not choosing Rhaenys as the firstborn, while Rhaenys believes Aerion should inherit the throne because he is the only son of Aemon and Jocelyn. But I also believe House Baratheon would be angry at this since Aerion is half Baratheon.

I could probably see a war breaking out years later. This could happen after Viserys dies, while he is still marries to Alicent and has the same children.

Let's suppose Daeron doesn't break his betrothal to Olenna and marries her, so Egg names him heir as a punishment to Jaehaerys and Duncan the Small.

As heir, he would be much more protected, so he doesn't die fighting the Rat, the Hawk, and the Pig. Likewise, it would be him, not Jaehaerys, who would be in King's Landing during the events at Summerhall.

Daeron III becomes king, although I think he dies in the Ninepenny War alongside his lover Jeremy Norridge, leaving Olenna as regent.

They would have two sons (I'm open to any name changes):

Aemon I. Born in 254 and married to Alerie Hightower. He is seemingly the perfect king, although Olenna has a lot of influence over him.

Jeremy (or Jaehaerys). Born in 260. He dreams of being a great knight. Olenna thinks he's an idealist.

The story would begin during the Tourney at Harrenhal, with Rhaegar becoming Kingsguard in Jaime's place. Aerys is furious, but powerless to act because his adherence to exceptionalism has deprived him of allies.

The point is that Rhaegar still wins the tourney and crowns Lyanna, which infuriates Robert, who is only restrained by his father, Steffon, who is alive in this scenario. Jeremy, for his part, also falls in love at the tourney (not with Lyanna, as the age implications would make it awkward to write, but with Ashara Dayne), but Olenna prefers to marry him to the Maid of Harrenhal to secure the loyalty of the Riverlands.

Tywin in this scenario is ambivalent. He respects Aemon, but there is no affection between them. And he resents Olenna because she refused to allow Aemon to marry Cersei (it occurs to me that a spiteful Tywin, in turn, might have refused to allow Cersei to marry Jeremy instead).

In any case, Jaime is available to marry Lysa. So Tywin could try to convince Hoster that Olenna is trying to replace him with the Whents and might suggest that Aerys would be a better king than Aemon.

So, what do you think?

This scenario, I change Ned's children (Included Jon) gender.
1. Robin Stark (F!Robb 283AC)
2. Jeyne Snow (F!Jon 283AC)
3. Samwell Stark (M!Sansa 284-285AC)
4. Artos Stark (M!Arya 287-288AC)
5. Berena Stark (F!Bran 289AC)
6. Rianon Stark (F!Rickon 295)

For this AU, I’m assuming that F!Robb is betrothed to Joffrey and also brings F!Jon south with him, while M!Arya has become a squire in the Vale during the early of GOT. I won’t go into much detail about the other storylines (unless you have something you’d like to add), but I want to focus mainly on M!Sansa as the heir in this AU.

I’ve given his personality traits:

1. He is influenced by southern honor and chivalry, likely following the Faith of the Seven.
2. He is a good fighter, but inferior to Robb. ( I would rate Robb as A+, so M!Sansa would probably be around B+) . Also he isn’t a tactical genius. If Robb S-tier, M!Sansa would probably be around A-tier.
3. I’m assuming that he has a somewhat southern-leaning worldview. This makes him better at diplomacy and long-term planning than Robb. (Following the concept that Sansa would be the stereotypical southern lady, M!Sansa would be the stereotypical southern lord.)

He would lead an army of 20,000 men south for saving his father and his sister (and another half). So I’d like to hear your thoughts: What kind of war would he wage against the Lannisters? And would the battles of the Green Fork and the Whispering Wood still happen?

Author: Scarlet Carnotaurus (Tigre de Jade)

Rating: M

Language: English

Length: 18k words

Status: Ongoing

Link: AO3 ; SpaceBattles.

In ASOIAF, Asha Greyjoy and Qarl the Maid only meet eachother when already grown up and after the Greyjoy Rebellion. By then, she is a newly minted captain who needs to earn her father's aproval as an heir and he is a promissing swordsman who wants to prove himself as more than a thrall's grandson.

But what if, instead, they meet as children, their heads still full of dreams which had not the time to fade under the unyielding weight of reality? What if, from very early on, the Kraken's Daughter had a loyal Maid by her side?

Or, Asha Greyjoy and Qarl the Maid become friends earlier, and all the consequences thereoff.

Hi! So this is the first fic I post in a long time, and my first foray into the ASOIAF fandom. Essentially, I like the Iron Islands and the characters there a lot, and so wanted to tell a story exploring them and their potential a little bit more. Updates are slow to come but they do come, with the latest chapter just being posted.

Criticism is, as always, welcome.

Hope you all like it!