r/expedition33 1h ago

Discussion How do you even defeat the boss who just erases me out ? Spoiler

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I have completed all the bosses with little effort but now I am stuck on this wall called "Simon". The difficulty spike from other bosses is quite substantial.

After 2-3 hours of try-harding I somehow managed to clear its first phase and thought okay it was not that difficult until he got Clea's power for the second phases ?!

He has absurdly high speed attacks with little to no time in between and a very tight parry window. One miss and my character gets one shot from the hit. Because of this I made a survival build with second chance lumina on all characters + lune healer and maelle shielder mode, turns out it's pretty much useless because this boss ERASES me out of the canvas ?! If I die once, no matter if I dodge or not, I just get erased out ? Wiped my whole team which was barely hanging on !! And now I can't even revive them, then struggled with the last stand until I died from missing one parry from the thousand light speed swords he throws at me.

And I am not even on hard difficulty, I am playing on expeditions difficulty. I can't even imagine how people are doing it with x100 health + hard mode challenge.

Please help, I liked the boss design and battle style but I wanna kill it in my way, what things can help me to not get erased or at least survive it till last or break it's shield faster ?


r/expedition33 2h ago

Question How far in the game am I? Spoiler

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First time player here. I grew up in the PS1/PS2 era with FFVII and FFX, and this is one of the best games I've played to date.

I just beat the Paintress, had the big plot twist, and from what I can tell I'm about halfway through the return to Lumiere where sh*t is going down left and right. Renoir is in some kind of tower and the Expedition is honing in on him.

I went into this game completely blind, so I have no idea how much of the main storyline is actually left. It felt like I was nearing the (real) final boss, so I went back to the Continent and have been doing all sorts of side quests. My characters are all between levels 58-65.

Can anyone enlighten me on roughly how much of the game is left? Or is Lumiere the final dungeon? I want to explore every last part of the world, including the Gestral arenas and the tower with the trials, so I'm really hesitant to complete the storyline. The world is just too good!

Also, if anyone has any recommendations on areas to check out, I'm all ears. I finished the Paintress' Workshop and promptly got slaughtered - same with some of the harder trials in the tower. It seems like there's a fine line between the areas you're supposed to go, and the bonus bosses (a la FFVII and FFX). Thanks in advance!


r/expedition33 4h ago

Meme day 43 of making Reacher memes because i love her and think more people should appreciate her

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this one is so dumb, i love it


r/expedition33 4h ago

Bug Report/Issue How am I meant to parry an attack I cannot see?😭

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This is stage 10 trail 1 of endless tower and it continues in all of stage ten cause for some reason they made the map have a big triangular structure get in the way


r/expedition33 4h ago

Photo Mode Photo mode has been really fun to mess around with on my first play through.

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I was just playing around with photo mode after I progressed past the seemingly optional mini boss battles in Visage, got my frame, placed some red lights to match the ambience and to try and make the characters stand out against the background, then decided to cycle through the filters. Let’s just say the Outline filter reveals some intricate details that don’t immediately present themselves as you enter this particular area lol. The last photo is what I saw first, and turning the intensity of the filter down really struck me as a fun screenshot to keep, and the first photo is what I originally intended to capture.


r/expedition33 5h ago

Photo Mode Bonjour, visage.

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r/expedition33 7h ago

Question Luminas Farm

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Guys, I need to farm Lumina in a way that doesn't take too long. I know one of the good spots to farm Lumina was the Chromatic Danseunse boss, but I beat her in the mid-game and I'm screwed, haha. I need to farm at least 200 Lumina per character, and I haven't wanted to start NG+ because I still have to beat Simon, Chromatic Clea, both Dualists, and the Lantern in the Endless Tower. Any recommendations?


r/expedition33 7h ago

Discussion About the ending *SPOILER* Spoiler

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Before anything else, I want to make clear that I absolutely love this game. This isn't me hating on the story or saying the ending ruined it for me. If anything, the fact I'm still thinking about the morality of the ending and arguing with myself over it is a sign of how much the story worked for me. This is just one aspect of the ending that I see differently from how I think the game presents it.

I know Maelle's ending is pretty clearly presented as the "bad" ending, and I understand why.

Alicia is losing herself in the Canvas and becoming another Aline, and she's forcing Painted Verso to continue existing even though he clearly wants to die. Both of those things are wrong.

But I still think Maelle's ending is morally better than Verso's for one major reason: Lumière is still alive.

The game spends its entire runtime establishing that Lune, Sciel, Monoco, Esquie, the Gestrals and everyone else in the Canvas are genuinely living people. They have hopes, fears, relationships, cultures, love, grief and independent thoughts. They're not just drawings being puppeteered by the Dessendres.

The Gommage is horrifying precisely because these people are alive and don't want to die. Lune's reaction to the second Gommage is honestly one of the most haunting images in the game for me.

So while Maelle's ending condemns Verso to an existence he doesn't want, Verso's ending essentially kills an entire civilisation.

And I don't think the game gives that enough weight.

The Dessendres are basically gods to the people of Lumière, and they're pretty cruel gods. Imagine discovering that our universe was created by someone, only for them to decide they'd become too emotionally attached to it and needed to move on, so they erased humanity. Would we really consider that justified because it was healthier for our creator?

And I think the God analogy goes even further than that. If the Dessendres created genuinely conscious life, then they have a responsibility towards that life. Creating Lumière shouldn't give them unlimited ownership over it; if anything, it gives them a duty to protect it.

Renoir and Aline have a responsibility towards Alicia because they brought her into existence. I don't see why the basic principle should suddenly disappear when we're talking about the thousands of conscious lives their family brought into existence inside the Canvas. Those people didn't ask to be created either, and they certainly didn't ask to become collateral damage in the Dessendres' family grief.

That's why, of the two endings we're given, I'd actually choose Maelle's. It's not a happy ending and Maelle is clearly going down a dangerous path, but at least Lumière gets to exist. Verso's desire to die matters, but so does the desire of potentially thousands of other conscious people to live. Verso should be allowed to choose death for himself, but that shouldn't mean choosing death for everyone else.

For me, though, there's an obvious third ending that would have been far better.

Verso dies. Maelle says goodbye and leaves the Canvas. Alicia returns to reality and the Dessendres finally grieve Verso properly. Aline puts a blanket over the Canvas and the family agrees to leave it alone. Lumière carries on without them.

Verso's creation then becomes his legacy rather than a way for his family to pretend he's still alive.

Alicia could potentially even visit occasionally. I sympathise with her more than Aline because her real life was permanently changed by the fire. She's disabled and badly scarred, while as Maelle she can run, fight and explore. There's a huge difference between permanently escaping into the Canvas and visiting your friends for a few hours before returning to reality.

If entering and leaving the Canvas is inherently dangerous to Alicia, or if Lumière literally cannot survive without trapping part of the real Verso's soul, then fair enough. That adds genuine nuance and makes the choice much more difficult.

But if the Canvas can continue without destroying Alicia or imprisoning Verso, then I think the binary choice we're given is unnecessarily cruel.

Verso deserves the death he wants. Alicia deserves to live her real life. The Dessendres deserve to heal. But Lumière deserves to live too.

The Dessendres may have created Lumière, but once they created genuinely conscious life, I don't think they had the right to erase it.

TL;DR: I love the game and this isn't intended as hate towards the ending. I just think Maelle's ending is flawed rather than outright morally worse. She refuses to let Verso die and is losing herself in the Canvas, but Verso's ending effectively wipes out an entire civilisation of conscious people. The Dessendres created those lives and therefore have a responsibility towards them, not the right to erase them when the Canvas becomes unhealthy for their own family. The ideal ending would be Verso dying, Alicia returning to reality, the Dessendres leaving the Canvas behind, and Lumière being allowed to carry on without them.


r/expedition33 8h ago

Meme Divided Swords is something else

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The piano bit oml


r/expedition33 9h ago

Gameplay Am I too underleveled

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I just beat the duelist at normal difficulty and I was at level for 14 for my characters.

I am now getting my ass handed to me by Monaco at level 16 characters. Do I need to grind more because this is giving me the same difficulty I had with the hardest Elden ring bosses.


r/expedition33 9h ago

Discussion I just started this game

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Hi everyone! I am spoilerfree and dont know anything about this game.! What do you think are essentials for new players?


r/expedition33 9h ago

Discussion Thoughts on a sequel C33 or another DLC? Spoiler

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I have around 90 hours in the game and I’ve finished the game twice (once on NG+). C33 is still preforming well, do you think there is room for a sequel or more DLCs? I think Verso’s draft was great and I feel like it could’ve had more to it. It did make me happy all the way through it (minus my beef with Esquie’s cousin)

Personally, with every good game, I naturally want more to the game but C33’s dual ending has a book-ending feel if that makes sense, like a satisfying ending. I would love more to the universe or even the game but what are your thoughts and what would you add to the universe?


r/expedition33 11h ago

Question I think I am way underleveled Spoiler

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I'm halfway through the game, and I'm fighting the paintress, I'm able to reach her second phase comfortably however I kinda think I'm way underleveled, I'm 35 across all caractères, so what do y'all think


r/expedition33 11h ago

Bug Report/Issue Newest Nvidia Update Causing Fatal Error 33 on 3070TI

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Just a forewarning for those with 3 series cards. I had to roll back to my previous driver due to crashing after every 5 minutes with the new update.

Just a PSA incase anyone has had this happening and is scrat3ching there heading trying to figure out what exactly is going on. Just roll back to your previous versions.


r/expedition33 12h ago

Photo Mode old friends ♡

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disclaimer: this does NOT happen in game. I used mods to create this scene with the UUU.5 and otis_inf camera tools :)


r/expedition33 12h ago

Gameplay 3 done, 2 more left. NG+3 parry only (no turns, no hit, 1HP). Spoiler

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r/expedition33 12h ago

Discussion Knowing that many of the devs met on Reddit, why haven’t we ever tried for an AMA?

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Just curious because I’m sure given outreach they’d be into that, they’ve done all kinds of little YouTube channels and I’m sure this community would love that kind of thing.

Edit: I don’t know what I’ve done for downvotes lmao Did we do this and I just missed it?? Or are we like “no let’s not talk to the devs if they agree to an AMA”?


r/expedition33 12h ago

Meme "Where is Verso on the Expedition 33 cover art?" Ben Starr (Verso's voice actor) answers the question LMAO

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Ben Starr is my favorite voice actor and one of the reasons is all the hilarious shi he pulls LOL


r/expedition33 12h ago

When did you finally say "Screw it, I'll face the final boss?"

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In your runs, when did you finally decide to take in the final boss?

For me, it was when I was actively looking for places to grind just to see what else the game had to offer. Not because a boss was hitting too hard but for me that was the signal of "it was time to move on".

What about you?


r/expedition33 13h ago

Discussion I started playing the game a few days ago, and the plot twist caught me completely off guard. Spoiler

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I never considered the possibility that the whole world could be an invention. My theory was that Maelle was a nevron created in the image and likeness of Alice living in Lumiere and that was why she wanted to leave Lumiere, and everything about the monolith felt so familiar and close to her. I also thought that Gustave's remark that she was better at relating to gestrals than to humans was a hint


r/expedition33 13h ago

Game references in NTE: Neverness to Everness

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I was playing NTE: Neverness to Everness today when I noticed all the references to Expedition 33. NTE is an open world gacha game set in a world fairly similar to ours, but it has a special game mode called 999 Nights that is essentially a D&D game. Turns out that this D&D game within the game uses a map very similar to the one in Expedition 33, same thing for the portals!

I couldn't make a screenshot of it, but the image warps inward for a few seconds when a boss fight begins in the open world like in E33, and the background music is reminiscent of the ones Sakapatates love! They also have mini platform instances here and there on the map that are easier for people like me who are very bad at it usually lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people considered it to be plagiarism, but I see it more as a homage since the gameplay, story and world building are completely different. Has anyone else played it?


r/expedition33 13h ago

Discussion Fun little detail I spotted. Don't know how well known it is, so i might just be throwing another drop in the ocean Spoiler

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I will give some massive props and credit to this unspoken detail thats been in my mind since I thought of it.

The fact that every expedition leaves stuff behind for others to make their journey easier, to help those who come after. And yes, even that phrase itself. And the fact the game is incredibly art focused. Ends up giving unspoken detail that I really like, that each artists journey is built on the previous persons, nothing is wholly original and every artist helps the ones who come after.

E33 is inspired by other jrpgs. And E33 will inspire other jrpgs that will inevitably surpass it. Its a nice little meta detail I actually really like.

Yall are fucking converting me into a fan and I hate it. I'm supposed to be the biggest hater. Yet I keep finding things to enjoy.

Edit: Yall keep focusing on the wrong part of my post. So I deleted it. Now focus on the actual neat detail i found.


r/expedition33 14h ago

Discussion Challenge (?) run idea

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I've just started a run where I must swap the weapon every time I get rewarded with it (either from a fight, found item or story progression). (Main story only)

Also, whenever I get said weapon, it must be used, so the "oldest" weapon in the active party leaves.

Let's say Gustave has Cruleram (oldest), Lune has Lighterim and Maelle has Brulerum. If I get Sciel's Hevasson, Gustave is out and Sciel comes in with the new weapon. Now Lighterim is the oldest so it's next in line.

Also, if you get an upgrade for an equipped weapon, it gets refreshed so it becomes the newest one and goes to the end of the line.

My goal is to learn to sinergize every combination of party members and to have to adapt my builds at every corner, basically. Pictos, luminas, weapons passives, attributes and skills.

The main damage dealer may be forced to be the support and vice versa.

I've 100%ed the game a couple times now but I feel that I always come back to machine gun Verso, burn Maelle and electrifying (?) Lune. So let's see what else may I come across :)

(Plus, I know, maybe it's time to stop painting)


r/expedition33 14h ago

Frame done - Entei Ryu 1 / 333

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r/expedition33 14h ago

Theory Ending discussion. Spoiler

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Had to remake this post because the title was a bit to spoiler heavy. My apologies to all who commented.

This theory probably has been discussed already but I just wanted to touch base and see what people think about it.

I'm currently in my NG+ run in Alicia's Epiloque and realized that the real world we see might not be as real as it seems. Finding the entire map of the game painted in Aline's greenhouse was a big sign. Fun Fact: When you look at that map from behind it goes away and the canvas acts like a window. ''Art can be a window, and art can be a mirror. And great art. Great art is both.''

But there are more signs such as.

- Why does the window outside Alica's room only show the Eiffel Tower whereas the rest of the area is shrouded by fog?

- The only other open room above the kitchen has a window with a Obscure Nevron behind is. Just like the Manor within Verso's canvas. Also this is the same room where we can find regular clothes for Maelle but why here and not in her actual room? Also why does this room have a mirror and yet the other bedrooms do not.

- All the clocks are still frozen.

- Why does Monoco The Third still have a secret room behind a painting in the ''Real'' world.

- All the paintings depicting the setting of the game long before it happened. Who painted these? If Aline and Renoir have been in Verso's canvas all this time then why took the time to paint how the inside of Verso's canvas looks and took the time to set all of these paintings up within the manor.

- December 33rd.

- The Painting showing Alicia vs Alicia long before it happened.

- Why do the clothes of Clea and Renoir have those golden patterns similar to design of the Curator and Paintress but Aline's clothing does not?

All of these things paint a pretty clear picture that even the real world isn't real but the question is who created it. Did Alicia write a story about a world within a world as a form of escapism or is there something else at play?