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Students get smudged by indigenous elders for peace and blessings throughout the year

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u/Local-Wing-2272 3h ago

Neat. I'm sure the comments will be normal about this. 

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u/Stray-Sojourner 2h ago

They in fact, really weren't.

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u/Used_Gear8871 2h ago

Aww this is in the top comment. Do I stop scrolling here, conductor?

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u/Belvedere48 2h ago

I should've taken the hint but alas they were right :/ Once again Reddit has to ruin everything..

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u/Canadianwinters12345 2h ago

It's super interesting to see people advocate for and against bringing religion and superstitious into schools.

Especially when it's the opposite of who you normally see in favour / against.

The same people advocating for this would be against another religion giving blessings.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 2h ago

Im an atheist who has always lived in the south. Personally i don't see a problem with this nor student prayer groups. I realize religion is important to others and I can respect that.

When I do have a problem is when groups demand their religion be the only one present and/or taught in class in any form other than a comparative religion class. Religion definitely has no place being taught as science or history.

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u/Shoddy_Tour_7307 1h ago

Thats a very fair take, that most people don't have. Well said.

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u/molotovzav 2h ago

If its opt in, then IDC. If it's non-predatory than IDC. It's only forced and predatory behavior in schools that shouldn't be there. Forced prayer in school, I don't agree with. Prayer group that meets up and pray together, totally fine with that. The first time they really tried to bring religion into school I was 13. It was post 9/11 and they tried to get prayer in during the morning allegiance time and had pushback so it became a moment of silence. Even that left a bad tatse in my mouth. I'm not religious, I believe in freedom of religion and I believe it's a two way street, I should have the freedom to not be religious. But often, court cases and society here does not respect the right to be non-religious as much as it protects religious behavior. School is a secular thing, people can be religious. That's why it should be an option, never forced when in school.

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u/GladClock2212 1h ago

This is an inter-tribal private school, not a public school

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u/Canadianwinters12345 2h ago

It's a little more than that. Like you're forcing kids to reject it, and putting them in a position to say no.

And when it's saying no to a person in a positon of power that becomes iffy.

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u/MorePhinsThyme 1h ago

And for a younger child, most adults are effectively a person in a position of power. 

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u/raccoononreddot 1h ago

yes and no. i personally wouldn’t mind this forced upon me but would hate and react someone trying to force me in christian prayer. its all subjective no? hypocritical sure but context matters. i for one dont think its right without consent. have a bunch of options at school. let kids choose what speaks them. sadly relgion is going away so i don’t think we should ban a convo or exposure but some people forcing that we are a christian nation is weird and off putting.

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u/Training_Wind_4997 1h ago

I think as weird as it has become it's a good opportunity to educate about other religions. If it's deemed that the commandments need to be displayed then you can bet your ass they'd be displayed right next to the doctrines of other religions.

It's all just a ploy at racist favoritism otherwise

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u/PersimmonExpensive37 1h ago

I don't see why anyone would have an issue with this. What I dislike is when "educational institutions" try to intertwine religion and real education. Learning about religion is awesome. "Learning" that one religion "is true" is another. 

Christianity, like all other religions, is a pretty awesome part of the human identity. Art and culture were shaped by it. It is fun to learn about. Just don't tell kids it's real. 

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u/Canadianwinters12345 1h ago

For sure. And same with smudging.

Don't teach kids that it actually does anything.

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u/AgnosticScholar 2h ago

If this was Catholics putting ash on people's foreheads redditors would be less happy about it.

Let's be real: there are religions redditors like and religions redditors dislike. Christianity is one of those they dislike

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u/crashnginthesamecar 1h ago

How is this not religious? It definitely goes further than carrying a "good luck charm". It is done to spiritually cleanse and purify an individual so that they can be closer to the Creator. How is this not a religious belief? It's so funny how Westerners have so much guilt about their own religion that they downplay the religions of outsiders. It's called the bigotry of low expectations. I'm not suggesting that you are doing this here, but you seem to be making assumptions based on the feelings you have about what you were raised in rather than seeing another religion for what it is. It's not always a bad thing to give others the benefit of the doubt, but it is a little silly when it comes to religious/superstitious practice. "Native American not Christian/Catholic= Native American Good"

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u/EveryAccount7729 1h ago

how many child sex abuse scandals are associated with this ?

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u/leni710 2h ago

There's certainly a difference between a religious company that requires strict adherence or else you burn in hell, btw, they collect your money and assault your children.

Versus a cultural practice that's designed to bring peace to a space. But doesn't tell people they burn in hell.

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u/pixiedreamhag 1h ago

I dislike it being a mandatory part of my kids’ public elementary school curriculum, which in Texas, it is.

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u/GladClock2212 1h ago

This is a private, Native school

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u/KoolDiscoDan 1h ago edited 1h ago

Yeah, Catholics putting ash on Native American/First Nations children would make me angry.

But I know the damage Catholics have done.

New Archive Sheds Light on Indian Boarding Schools Run by the Catholic Church

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u/One_Recognition385 2h ago

its really funny because its just smoke and incense, they do the same thing in christian churches.

people just find it weird when other cultures do the same exact thing.

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u/edebt 2h ago

Well she doesnt have the incense in the metal wiffle ball censor thing they swing around, obviously that is what makes the magic work for Christians.

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u/One_Recognition385 1h ago

God dammit you right how could i be so ignorant.

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u/texxmix 2h ago edited 2h ago

This school is located on a reserve. And she's asking each kid if they would like to participate. Y'all need to chill out.

Also Atleast here in Canada (I know this video was in the states) indigenous practises like this are viewed more so as cultural practises rather than religious practises because indigenous practises typically arent monotheist in nature.

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u/HoodSamaritan420 1h ago

Something can be religious without being monotheist

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u/Jeix9 21m ago

I’m in Canada, I work at a big art gallery. We were doing an exhibition with all indigenous artwork. The artists actually came to the gallery and smudged every employee, including myself, similarly to how you see here just more thoroughly. Honestly, i found it very relaxing. The purpose was to remove any negative or bad energy we might’ve been carrying before we handled the artwork.

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u/Flannel_Panels 13m ago

Right? Its not like shes forcing every kid to pray or read the 10 commandments everyday

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u/bepse-cola 11m ago

People misunderstand what native spirituality is, the Europeans projected their own religious structure onto spiritual practices

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u/ReiOokami 2h ago edited 2h ago

Plot twist, it's THC.

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u/Lunabbg 2h ago

Good teachers deserve calm students /s

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u/KeySite2601 2h ago

If it's voluntary and not a public school, then who cares?

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u/GladClock2212 1h ago

It's a inter-tribal private school

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u/Academic-Hospital952 1h ago

And if it's not, also who cares

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u/damutecebu 2h ago

These are indiginous children being blessed by an elder prior to entering school. There is nothing wrong about this from a church and state perspective.

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u/unconvincedhuman 3h ago

This is 100% harmless yet people here will have a problem with it.

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u/Randomizedname1234 2h ago

Idc what your religion is, if you’re sending good vibes and a blessings I’ll take it!

Like who would be mad at that?!

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u/Any-Mobile-2473 2h ago

Exactly. My own people do the same but with Syrian rue ("espand" as we call it). Nothing really radical or deeply religious expected here, just a nice gesture to bless someone/some place and keep away negativity. Also makes for a better smelling home, if you've ever smelled sage (or whatever the elder above used ) or Syrian rue. Just saying

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u/emotumbleweed 2h ago

Even the most anti-spiritual, science minded person should be able to understand that good smells can be a calming presence that “blesses” a space, aromatherapy is a thing. It makes sense that cultures will attribute significance to them.

As long as it’s not hurting anyone, some adults in this thread are being way more pissy than the kids actually involved here.

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u/One_Recognition385 2h ago

christians do the same exact thing is the thing, they go up and down the aisle with little metal boxes on chains and blow smoke and incense on people.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2h ago

What if people don't want any participation in any other religions ritual whatsoever? Then what?

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u/sparkster185 2h ago

"no thank you" is just basic common courtesy.

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u/Randomizedname1234 2h ago

Then keep walking and smile lol

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u/Floorgis 2h ago

Pretty sure they can keep walking or say no but I do agree that this has no place in schools like any religion.

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u/SpaceSlothLaurence 2h ago

Consider that this is most likely coming from a school on a reservation, aka where the native tribe that was forcefully displaced from their homelands in an act of genocide, is finally able to govern themselves again due to the grace of the white man....

Now take your comment and add a little nuance to it?

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u/SyrianArmpit 2h ago

I think you’d be hard pressed to find a reason this is bad, looks like it takes a few seconds of standing there for it to be over. At the end of the day you’re building community and spreading good vibes.

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u/unconvincedhuman 2h ago

We just leave them alone to be miserable like you.

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u/namereset4badmouth 2h ago

They politely decline

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u/BobbbyR6 2h ago

Then keep walking. What an insufferable mindset.

Somebody is wishing you good health or luck or otherwise being friendly and you take offense.

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u/Natural_Chain3190 2h ago

About the same as receiving Merry Christmas when you aint Christian.

Enjoy the vibes and literal well wishes bro

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u/Tall-Needleworker422 2h ago

The concern isn't the positive intent, but the precedent. If a *public* school sponsored entryway blessings from a priest or imam, many parents would understandably object. So, opposing this isn't about being angry; it's about protecting the principle of the division of church and state.

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u/Bright-Ad4601 2h ago

My only problem would be if it's mandatory, if you can opt out I don't see the harm

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u/Substantial_Meal_530 2h ago

If this is a public school in the US separation and church and state? I don't want the ten commandments in schools and I also don't want this.

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u/Unlucky-Cook2578 2h ago

it is not

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u/SignificantInside877 2h ago

That’s not what separation of church and state means at all.

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u/JustHere_4TheMemes 1h ago

It pretty much is. Its not a strong example of it, but still an example. Separation of church and state means that the apparatus and power/influence of state (i.e. government) should not be seen to endorse or promote one specific national faith. SO, no, its not like the school is teaching the doctrines of one faith and claiming them to be true. Nor is the 'state' is openly declaring the nation is officially X faith. But unless there is a conscious effort to make something like this a multi-faith learning opportunity, a public school should not be in the habit of front-lining any one faith.

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u/adinmem 2h ago

It is exactly what it means if that’s a public school and the other religions aren’t invited to all be there at the same time.

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u/GSilky 2h ago

What if it were Catholic nuns handing out rosaries to kids entering a public school? Assuming this is a public school, of course.

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u/Elismom1313 2h ago

I mean that happened to me as a kid, I said no thank you and kept walking. Not a big deal

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2h ago

I'd hand it right back to them. I don't want it. 🚫

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u/oceanhymn 2h ago

I also wouldn't care. What matters here is the option to decline.

What people get caught up on with the distinctions between cultural appropriation, appreciation, and assimilation is two pronged. A) Whether or not the culture is being shared by someone within it and B) whether or not the recipient is given the opportunity to decline.

So long as the child or their family are given the agency to choose whether or not their child participates and it's being presented honorably by a member of the community who is enthusiastic to share their culture, I'm not sure why there would be anything wrong with it.

I feel like the majority of negative comments here are just showing a very rudimentary understanding of the conversation and are hoping to find the perfect gotcha to validate their misery.

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u/mallcopsarebastards 2h ago

> I'm not sure why there would be anything wrong with it.

Well, there's at least a dozen libraries worth of hard won knowledge around the value of separating church and state in public schools, and specifically around the idea that it must be institutional, enforced neutrality rather than optional access / broad accommodation.

In constitutional law it's referred to as non-establishment, meaning that a public facility cannot endorse any religion at any level. This isn't something that came about lightly, there's definitely a reason for it, and it's one that's been tested millions of times.

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u/ShredGuru 2h ago

Christians definitely forced those Chick Tracts on us and little shitty bibles too. We used em to roll joints..

Why do "what ifs" about shit that actually happens every fuckin day?

Seems like a Christian looking to project persecution while doing the exact same type of behavior to me.

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u/GSilky 2h ago

How about the idea that all spiritual and religious practices are nothing necessary for school, unless it's an expressly religious school? Supporting one without supporting the other is pure hypocrisy. Fwiw, I don't care either way, but I get tired of the one way criticism that is easily picked apart being presented as rational thought on a topic.

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u/unconvincedhuman 2h ago

It’s not.

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u/Lifteveryone 2h ago

How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

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u/Unlucky-Cook2578 2h ago

Cute, but that isnt how this works. Catholic schools exist. You can play the what if game all you want, but that may as well be 'what if they stood there and shot each kid?'

The relevance of the question is about hypocrisy, which isnt the case here.

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u/GSilky 2h ago

How do we know this? Genuinely asking. I don't see any context.

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u/ShredGuru 2h ago

Color me an "unconvinced human". Christians are so horny for indoctrination in schools it's wild. As an atheist kid in public school it was obnoxious and unavoidable and way more aggressive than any kind of native awareness they presented us.

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u/unconvincedhuman 2h ago

You sound sad and miserable. Hope you have a nice day.

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u/Justinaug29 2h ago

Just don’t get offended when I ignore it and just walk in

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u/grumpy_herbivore 2h ago

They won't.

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u/hippityhopkins 2h ago

If it's private school acting with transparency to the parents then go for it.

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u/Forrest-Fern 1h ago

It's on a res

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u/cottonopposite 1h ago

She's asking if they'd like to as opposed to "here are the ten commandments whether you like it or not" - "also we're going to start restricting the books you can access"

MAGA really are the biggest two way bitches you can find...it's hilarious and depressing watching in from Switzerland at this shitty fucking country.

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u/cjerni01 2h ago

Top comments getting really into the weeds on separation of Church and State without considering this isn't really a religious thing.

There's a sort of gray area between cultural and religious traditions/practices, especially for less deistic religions. In a sense, when someone sneezes and you reflexively say "bless you," you aren't blessing the evil spirits out of their body as Christians used to believe, but it's now just a cultural practice.

When she smudges them, she isn't giving some incantation or invoking any gods. It's used as a way to wish luck and a means to maintain a minority culture surrounded by a larger majority culture via practice. The kids will remember in 20 years how it was neat that their private school did some Native American cultural stuff for them (even if a bit cringe) not that their school forced a religion upon them.

Y'all are being super reddit-atheist brained and it's only tangentially related to what you're watching.

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u/Forrest-Fern 1h ago

People on Reddit are 100% not going to understand the nuance of culture/religion of native culture unfortunately.

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u/Nikki-C-Puggle-mum 2h ago

If it is a private school then it doesn't matter anyway because private schools can do whatever they want as far as religion goes.

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u/Hour_Apartment_5150 3h ago

Imagine if a priest was there giving holy water blessings lol heads would be exploding.

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u/Unlucky_Buy217 3h ago edited 3h ago

I mean you compare in vacuum, but to ignore the context is exceptionally stupid. Indigenous religions don't have any political backing, no major following, and have been reduced to some traditions and rituals that are unfortunatelg long getting lost, just engaging in something harmless but meaningful to the population that was largely wiped out by settlers is not the same as a hyper political and extremely powerful religious organization.

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u/fearos9449 2h ago

Nope, there is no context where you can say

>My religious presence in schools is OK, but yours isn't.

This is mental gymnastics to try to justify your biased double standard.

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u/MelanieWalmartinez 3h ago

I’m pretty sure they do that at religious schools

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u/Mental_Service_918 2h ago

I love seeing these post, I'm in America & very exposed to native American culture. I remember when examples like this were "entertaining" & the myths of a lost culture. For those who want to turn this into a religious fight, it's not. Period.

I was forced pray to Jesus in a public school, I remember. I have never been forced or given the opportunity to learn native American beliefs in public school.

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u/SoFloDan 3h ago

I’ll take native sage burners being around kids over a fuckin priest any day.

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u/Majestic-Tiger2742 3h ago

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u/Designer_Chicken_832 2h ago

Some of y'all just be Googlin' butt stuff all day.

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u/viceman999 3h ago

Idk what church you go to but holy water doesn't go on the lips wtf lol

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u/macronotice 2h ago

Chugging that holy water

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u/heartisallwehave 2h ago

I went to catholic school/church as a kid and I have seen people dab their fingers (usually inside of the thumb) in the holy water, do the sign of the cross, and then rub their thumb over their lips. I think holy water is also used during the sacrament (please correct if I’m wrong, been a long time since I’ve been to church) to rinse out the cup, and although it gets dried, that same handkerchief is used to wipe the cup rim between recipients.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2h ago

Holy water is a scam anyway. Idk why people have their priests spray them, their houses, etc. with it.

https://giphy.com/gifs/U690zgM8p84c2EVnIc

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u/Hour_Apartment_5150 3h ago

Who’s wetting their lips with holy water?

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u/KiKiKimbro 2h ago

Awww those kids are adorable. I love learning about other cultures and traditions.

I’m sure after I submit this I’ll see all the other comments that say they love learning about other cultures too. Sadly, /s

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u/MALCode_NO_DEFECT 2h ago

When you put a big log on the fire and all the termites redditors come scrambling out:

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u/tristtaniskanye2 1h ago

Better than standing outside of the school yelling and screaming with pictures of dead fetuses and bloodied babies. Get me lit!

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u/timbotheous 2h ago

Beautiful

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u/AnakinSwagwalker420 2h ago

It’s a private school but if it were a public school I’d be against it due to separation between state and church, albeit I think I’d be the most lax about indigenous/ Native American traditions
Considering we owe everything to them so

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u/Single-Will6284 2h ago

People who can’t accept this as part of their culture don’t belong here . They should
Go back to where they came from

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u/grumpy_herbivore 2h ago

Assimilate or go home. 😅

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u/helpfulplatitudes 3h ago edited 2h ago

...And this works into the obligation of separation between church and state in Canada how exactly?

Edit: This is in a private school in Milwaukee County so my comment is entirely irrelevant. If they want to smudge in a private school, who cares?

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u/SquirrelInATux 2h ago

My guess is this is either a private school or they just started doing this and nobody has complained yet.

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u/helpfulplatitudes 2h ago

They often smudge in public schools in the Yukon. I worked in one school in Vancouver, BC where it was also done.

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u/joeycuda 3h ago

cite your source for that..Canada does not have an official constitutional separation of church and state

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u/helpfulplatitudes 3h ago

It doesn't, but courts have found that there is an obligation to maintain perception of Church and State in Canada. See Mouvement laïque québécois v. Saguenay (City) https://scc-csc.lexum.com/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/item/15288/index.do

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u/BoringPrinciple2542 2h ago

Nobody said that until you did.

I name you “Wonderbread who gets offended with the mayonnaise”

Do not discredit the reality of Rez life to get your social media points.

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u/Separate-Ad6636 3h ago

That’s American, not Canadian. WTF are you even talking about.

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u/PunchPartyPat 3h ago

Is this religion? Seems more like a cultural practice than a religious practice.

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u/helpfulplatitudes 3h ago

The purpose of smudging is to get rid of evil spirits. It's not really in the same vein as language protection or beading patterns.

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u/Salsa_and_Light2 2h ago

And a four-leaf clover grants good luck.

Now is that culture or religion?

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u/helpfulplatitudes 2h ago

Great example; you have me questioning myself!

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u/Beaulteon 2h ago

That’s not the sole reason, that’s the popularized, media explanation.

It’s not solely “religion” as it’s also traditional and cultural, and does not fit the European definition of religion, given it is held and practiced in a different context and belief.

Actually understanding the action is fundamental.

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u/Darkseid210 2h ago

Where's the indigenous elders?

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u/huluvudu 1h ago

There are people >= 1/16 indigenous who proudly and fully practice indigenous traditions and look nothing like what a typical person view as indigenous.

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u/scotusforis72 2h ago

I have absolutely no problem with this.

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u/Ojibwe_Thunder 2h ago

Lots of uninformed folks in the comments.

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u/crashnginthesamecar 1h ago

I know this looks like I'm fighting with ghosts, but my comment is to serve as a thought experiment. I am not religious at all.

How is this any different from a Christian praying for a student aloud while they enter a school building or passing out Christian materials? My point being that people who mock Christianity (usually people on the left) have no issues with other religious/superstitious acts performed at a public school as long as they are done by a group that has been deemed "an oppressed minority". It's a double standard and shows inconsistency.

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u/Forrest-Fern 1h ago

This is a private school on a res. No one is making a fuss about what happens at private school, like Catholic school. You're not fighting ghosts, you're fighting a straw man.

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u/MelanieWalmartinez 1h ago

They can do that in Christian schools

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u/vikster16 26m ago

Because they are not trying to convert.

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u/thesquidsquidly22 2h ago

I love how triggered this makes people. Lol. I smudge up almost every day.

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u/DavidC_M 2h ago

Those crazy right wing Christians will have an issue with this, but not about those psycho people exorcism videos in the middle of a Barnes and noble.

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u/Still_Interview6360 3h ago

Is that Elizabeth Warren?

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u/1_H4t3_R3dd1t 2h ago edited 2h ago

a lot of native americans are actually white... they are a mixture of vikings and other human ancestors who resided in north america

they kinda looked like mr bean

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u/Chainmale001 2h ago

Smudging is akin to lighting a scented candle. While it CAN have religious ideals, it's not one single religion that it's assigned to. They all do it. Now if someone said no, then they can't force it.

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u/RedditNotRabit 2h ago

Indigenous to where? Is this North America?

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u/MelanieWalmartinez 2h ago

Yes, Indian community school in the USA

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u/RedditNotRabit 2h ago

Neat, fun to see people wanting to show off their culture. I also have the same backpack as the little girl just in a different color as a diaper bag lol

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u/YouSnuffTheBlaze 2h ago

Yo that little girls outfit and backpack designs are sick!

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u/Express-Low-48 2h ago

Wish my son could be blessed like this before school!

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u/Jolly_Ad2446 2h ago

that makes me smile

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u/malteaserhead 2h ago

Indigenous to where sorry? I cant get guess which country

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u/grumpy_herbivore 2h ago

North America

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u/StripperWhore 2h ago

That's too sweet.

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u/Mental_Service_918 1h ago

I'm apologizing in advance, I am really fired up about this! The comments I'm seeing are ridiculous. I don't believe OP was hiding & secretly obtained this footage. Please let me know OP if I am out of bounds with this...

Why is everyone so angry about native American schoolchildren at a private school(?) Getting a native American blessing before entering their school? I was so happy to see this, it is lovely. Just as I was happy to see the Atlanta students welcome to school. Just as happy as I was to see what our school bus driver made our kids 1st day back lovely.

Our children also deserve to learn about these things, they are the future leaders.

My honest opinion is not a good one. This post is full of people who feel bad & don't want to make things better.

Is it ok to teach religion in schools, yes, but it's gotta be it all & it's gotta be in the context of culture & free choice. The only way you yourself will be able to be free is to accept that everyone else is free too.

& OH yES.....I would also like to remind ALL of you that all of the Americas forcibly made the people they enslaved convert. So an example like this video & all the others are a pass you asses.

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u/TerninoMarchi 1h ago

That practice was done in that area way longer than adoring a guy dead on a cross, getting mad about it makes no sense

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u/Raz_Magul 49m ago

Nothing indigenous about the white woman

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u/Grenrion 5m ago

I think that's pretty cool keeping some traditions alive.

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u/[deleted] 3h ago edited 2h ago

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u/OperationOk7959 3h ago

"White Hippie Woman" absolutely qualifies.

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u/macronotice 2h ago

She’s done enough peyote to connect with elders across time and space

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u/Illustrious-Tear-921 3h ago

I think the same but that does look like an eagle feather which is a big no no and prohibited if shes not really indigenous

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u/The-Figurehead 3h ago

In the interest of fairness and equality, there should be multiple religious ceremonies performed on arriving students.

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u/pdxchris 3h ago

The goat sacrifice didn’t go over well last year.

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u/RealNiceKnife 3h ago

Can't wait for my blood rites initiation!

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u/Unusual_Candle_4252 3h ago

Olmec's blood rituals in the name of GODS.

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u/sickassape 3h ago

I'll take all of the to maximize the buff.

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u/Cappyburner 2h ago

Holy attack +10, divine protection, blessing of Cthulhu

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u/Feverstone 3h ago

One satanic blessing please

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2h ago

How about none? None is good.

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u/StandardUpstairs3349 54m ago

Praise Quetzalcoatl! Bring forth the offerings!

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u/ungreatfulshit 3h ago

They should be more diverse. They need to form a row of different rituals and all walk through them.

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u/Muted_Buy8386 3h ago

"Elders."

This shit is the worst. It's so performative in Canada rn.

I love the land acknowledgements though, "we stole this, we're still here, but like, we want you to know we know." Progressives, as regressive and segregationist as the diehard nazis.

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u/joausj 3h ago

Having the "land acknowledgements" at meetings and events run by the federal and provincial governments always felt weird.

Like if you acknowledge the land is stolen, give it back? Otherwise its just bullshit virtue signaling that makes the event even longer.

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u/bwoah07_gp2 2h ago

The land acknowledgements are generally the most pointless thing ever. They repeat it in schools all the time now! School newsletters and emails begin and end with it.

https://giphy.com/gifs/1oeJBXHDcjuF1A7dO2

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u/grandalfxx 3h ago

They didnt steel it though, their ancestors did, the same as the natives did to eachother.

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u/gooneau 2h ago

SINCE TIME IMMEMORIAL BABY!!! ugh, I'm Alaskan so I feel your pain, even in this deep republican state it's so over the top. My local government is constantly falling all over themselves to act like best friends with tribal entities (which half the time in alaska just means for-profit native corporations making it extra ridiculous) going as far as saying they are "co-governing" including in emergency response, when the tribe contributes literally zero resources or expertise and just provides some dignitary to stand there at pressers. Then, every single time it benefits them, they turn around and basically tell the actual government and non-natives to go fuck themselves because they are their oppressors and land-stealers. They constantly do shit that would land any non-tribal entity in legal trouble, like building a casino they 100% are not allowed to. Not even on tribal land, just a lot owned by a native dude. Who, hilariously, was apparently duped by the tribe into building a casino on his land, his entire family came forward recently and spilled the tea that they have been fighting the tribe about it (the tribes original lease on the land was for building a fireworks store, which is also illegal locally but our govt is too big of pussies to do anything). There is also a cluster of homes near the former site of a native village from 150 years ago, no special status or anything, that has turned into an open-air fentanyl and stolen goods market that the city refuses to do anything about. I'm pretty damn lefty but the tribal stuff around here is such an obvious example of the nonsensical bleeding heart bullshit that drives people to the right.

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u/Tenchi_Muyo1 2h ago

Nothing harmful with that, looks like when orthodox Christians burn aromatic incense and charcoal during ceremonies which is very calming

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u/teacup_24 2h ago

I work at a residential treatment center and some of the native Americans smudge and help. It is such a nice ritual.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 2h ago

Still more wholesome than forcing 10 commandments into schools

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u/Big_Tap_1561 2h ago

I’d take this over Christianity any day.

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u/ButtToucherPhD 2h ago

Oh so now y’all are cool with religion in the schools

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u/infinity-ash 2h ago

this is a private school.

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u/One_Recognition385 2h ago

what religion is this dumb ass?

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u/citizensloth 2h ago

What religion is this?

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u/CowabungaCthulhu 3h ago

Honoring old beliefs is one thing.

Performing nonsense actions that do nothing simply because your ancestors did them and claimed they worked is intentionally regressive and anti-thetical to learning.

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u/Salsa_and_Light2 2h ago

And that's why we should ban Christmas. /s

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u/grumpy_herbivore 2h ago

You will obey corporations and like it, consumer! Have a merry Xmas or else!

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u/Tronkfool 3h ago

I would take this over hugging my teacher or standing in a line waiting for an awkward high five.

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u/DisorderlyAqueduct 2h ago edited 7m ago

You don't celebrate any holidays, or birthdays, nor acknowledge the new year?

or you just being a hypocrite because it's a native American/ first nation's tradition? 😉

as an atheist, this is a weird agenda you're pushing.

edit: or, to say that differently, you've never taken such a stand against mall Santas. right? right.

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u/Stale_Jellyfish 3h ago

A statement that applies to every church and religion.

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u/One_Recognition385 2h ago

yeah i agree, burn down christian churches and burn the bible

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u/Majestic-Tiger2742 3h ago

You must be catholic.

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u/DisorderlyAqueduct 2h ago

they have all sorts of silly ceremonies!

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u/too_dumb_ 3h ago

Um, it's nice. Students probably know they don't have to do it. And for some it's probably a warmth or highlight of their day they don't get elsewhere.

You ever been a kid and dreaded going to school? Sure, this won't solve every kids dread - maybe not one student's at all. But these kids seem to be excited they get to do it.

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u/AutumnMama 1h ago

I know right? I went to a kid's birthday party the other day and when they started singing happy birthday I was like WTF WHY ARE WE PERFORMING THIS NONSENSE ACTION??? and then when the kid made a wish and blew out the candle I lost it, I was like THIS DOES NOTHING. I can't believe people are ok with their kids being this regressive and unlearned. SICKENING.

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u/NocaSun38 2h ago

I hope this isn't a public school. Separation of church and state, and all that.

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u/One_Recognition385 2h ago

this ain't religion dumbass lol

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u/LazerChicken420 2h ago

It took a lot of filtering out influencer rage reactions to find the original.

Posted by the mom who is part of a tribe.

Surprised me too because everyone here looks white af

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u/Delicious-Laugh-6685 3h ago

Indigenous old white ladies?!

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u/No_Knowledge_938 2h ago

But if it was Ash Wednesday and a pastor was outside putting ashes on students this would be a hate post. Oh the hypocrisy😂.

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u/SuspiciousInternet58 2h ago

So can you tell me what religion she's pushing by smudging?

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u/MelanieWalmartinez 1h ago

I don’t think that would happen in a private religious school

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u/Gogojojokujo 1h ago

“Indigenous”. Clearly white

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