r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Inside_Blacksmith480 • 8h ago
ao3 is down AI Generated Stick Figure Comics
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u/IsamuAlvaDyson 8h ago
People complaining about Elden Ring unplayable at 30fps yet it's universally acclaimed and sold a lot
Okay
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u/sherbodude 7h ago
It's only 30fps on the PS4 and that's how a lot of people played it
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u/MrZephy 7h ago
Is the Xbox one version 60 fps?
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u/sherbodude 7h ago
No its 30.
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u/G_Art33 5h ago
Idk, elden ring ran silky smooth on my Xbox X no lag no problem except online because my internet is crap. If my experience was average I think there is absolutely nothing to complain about there.
I did most of the game with no co-op in offline mode.
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u/microsoftisme3000 5h ago
Xbox one x or Xbox series x? One is 30 series has a 60 mode
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u/cellphone_blanket 12m ago
also steam deck (smaller market, but elden ring being playable at all on it was a showcase for a lot of people)
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u/CarlLlamaface 7h ago
I cap most graphic-intensive games to 30 on my PC simply because it keeps the GPU at a frosty 50-60 degrees and makes less way less fan noise as a result (plus it lets me have higher settings than if I'm trying to get a smooth 60+ fps).
At the end of the day if the frame rate is stable there's really nothing wrong with 30 fps for single-player open world games, or any non-competitive game really. It's when the game's capped at 30 fps because the system is struggling to run it in the first place and has constant lag spikes that it's an issue, but then that's a problem with the performance, not with the concept of a 30fps experience.
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u/PhatCatTax 6h ago
I keep mine capped at 31fps just so that I can come here and brag that I'm superior to CarlLlammaFace. Ive waited a long time for this day.
Booyallama CarlLlamma
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u/IAmBLD 3h ago
I cap mine at 29 fps so I can outspeed Carl in Trick Room.
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u/squidkid3 3h ago
I cap mine at 548 fps so that choice scarf and tailwind allows me to outspeed trick room and go first anyway
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u/volticizer 6h ago
30 FPS is like okay. For the switch 2 it's fine, it's a handheld, I wouldn't expect more, but intentionally doing that to yourself is wild when you have the option to get better frames. I'd drop my resolution and whack an upscaler on before going below 60 frames.
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u/ahferroin7 4h ago
Exactly this. If it’s actually a stable 30 FPS with almost no variance then it is indeed fine for a majority of games. It’s when you have random drops or spikes in the frame rate that 30 FPS becomes an issue.
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u/I_think_Im_hollow 7h ago
Tbf, the PS4 version was the one that ran better on release. The overall graphics were worse, but it was way more stable than the PS5 version.
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u/oedons_rooster 6h ago
Going to a ps5 pro after a 4 was life changing. Took a solid minute to adjust to the speed
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u/DL_Omega 4h ago
didnt ps4 version have a 60fps capped framerate mode? i remember people playing the ps4 version on ps5 so they could get a locked 60 experience which the ps5 version could not do.
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u/WillowPtar_Migan 7h ago
It's certainly not unplayable, but I definitely feel a difference between my computer and Xbox.
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u/NaCl_Sailor 7h ago
it's 60 fps though...
at least it's locked to 60 on PC and i definitely notice that every time i get back to it from playing something else
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u/Forward-Trade3449 6h ago
on the sw2 release, lotsa folks online claiming its unplayable bc of 30fps
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u/jbarszczewski 2h ago
Almost like reddit is not exact representation of majority. Apparently no one was supposed to buy Switch 2.
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u/Nihilater 6h ago
This is why I take online discourse as a grain of salt. It really isn’t that bad but it is blown out of proportion to generate clicks
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u/s0_Ca5H 6h ago
That’s the part that always gets me. It played fine at 30fps, with the only issues being the hiccups that would suck at any fps. It played great and sold fantastically, but somehow it’s now garbage because 30fps.?
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u/NotInMoodThinkOfName 7h ago
Gamers will always complain and cry even on games they play hundrets of hourd
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u/LJChao3473 6h ago
Well i mean, the more you play the more faults you'll see in them
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u/ReasonableAdvert 5h ago
But how many of those faults actively harm the average player's experience? If you need to play a game for hundreds of hours in order to notice them, then are they really deal breakers for most people?
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u/mindguru88 5h ago
It sits around 30-40fps on my Steam Deck, and that's the primary way I play Elden Ring. It's totally fine.
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u/mrloko120 4h ago
Pretty sure its only really a problem if you buy it on the switch 2
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u/Simpuff1 3h ago
I mean yes if I play it at 30fps personally it’s unplayable. The two things are not mutually exclusive.
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u/Hyenasaurus 7h ago
Like... Why Its a stick figure. A troll comic. The entire point is that even a toddler can draw it. Why are you getting gen AI to do it
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u/Bigggum 7h ago
Even the top one has three arms/two backs
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u/_zombie_k 6h ago
Bottom one has three legs
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u/avanross 5h ago
“Stick figures are complicated! You still need an unpaid intern artist to double check the ai’s work!”
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u/Spicoceles 4h ago
Because ai poindexters cannot turn a light off without asking their CP machines to gen an image of it turned off first.
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u/Shot-Ad-8015 1h ago
Bro is so not talented that even his AI generated images are fucking stick figures.
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u/BK1349 7h ago
I played elden ring in 30 fps and it was tough. But I couldn’t get my steam deck run it at stable 40 without looking really bad, so I swallowed it.
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u/GcubePlayer8V PINGAS 6h ago
How Does A Steam Deck Taste?
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u/Secret_Bar_2487 4h ago
Taste is how you would expect but the steam deck exhaust smells amazing. Like a techno camp fire
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u/memedormo 6h ago
Try jt out with lossless scaling on the deck! It works miracles.
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u/Cow_Sox 4h ago
doesn't that increase input lag though? genuine question
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u/memedormo 4h ago
Just try it out and you'll see the latency is low enough that it's barely noticeable on ER.
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u/millionwordsofcrap 7h ago
The comments section seems to be zeroing in on the content of the comic, but the infuriating thing here is that someone was so lazy, they used AI to create literal stick figures.
You don't need to be a master artist to make something this simple, just look at rage comics where the scratchy eyebleeding quality of the art was part of the gag
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u/MaterialDefender1032 5h ago
If you look closely, the AI hallucinated two bodies for the stick figure in the first frame lol
Oh, and three legs in the second frame. You could argue one of those lines is for the couch cushion but which one? They're all sticking out of his crotch
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u/Edikus_Prime 7h ago
30 fps is tolerable until you play a game that involves watching attack animations like a hawk.
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u/Skhemattos 4h ago
Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all time, locked at 30fps. Would I prefer 60? Absolutely. Is it a deal breaker? Nah, it's worth dealing with it.
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u/NMe84 7h ago
Even then it's perfectly tolerable. 30 FPS gives you a frame time of 33ms, which is well below the average human reaction time of 200-250ms. Unless a game requires frame-perfect reactions, 30 FPS is really not that bad. And it's easier to handle a game that targets and hits 30 FPS consistently than one that targets 60 FPS but has lots of frame drops at random times.
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u/SunsetCarcass 6h ago
That's like saying playing at 5 FPS (200ms) is fine because we only react at 200ms (which isn't entirely true). Some attack animations can be REALLY fast, and having more FPS lets you see the start of an attack frame faster.
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u/Namisaur 6h ago
I don’t care for 60fps for most games, but from my experience it’s not about the reaction time. It’s the smoothness of motion that allows you to anticipate actions and the feeling of responsiveness between what happens on screen and the button you press. Coming from playing rhythm games, 120fps made it a lot easier to anticipate the timing of the next note and also feels more responsive when I hit a certain button/key.
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u/HiddenSecretStash 5h ago
Yeah, higher framerates also means less input lag, so probably a combination of both smoother movement and faster control response. The control response is noticeable even with a game running at 60fps on a 30fps screen
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u/TWOITC 7h ago
there will be a load of AI generated frames to fill the void.
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u/22Megabits 7h ago
I love my AI upscaled video games with AI frame interpolation, AI code and a story made by AI.
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u/TWOITC 7h ago
Was that comment generated by AI? I love AI, I for one welcome our AI overlords.
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u/22Megabits 7h ago
I have already promised my first born child to my personal Lord and Saviour, Sam Altman.
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u/saujamhamm 7h ago
if i turned this in to my art teacher, they'd ask me if i was actually on the right path in life and maybe to consider a routing less detail oriented. like government, or ai programming...
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u/Amadeone 7h ago
i hate ai, but agree with the premise, people complain all the time that new games are locked to 30 fps but when it's gta it's suddenly ok?
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u/Melonfrog 7h ago
It amazing people use AI for the most simple things. Back in my day people put zero effort into Rage Comics and that's still more effort then this
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u/KennKennyKenKen 6h ago
Well it's not ok but what can be done?
Like GTA being all digital
Or charging $100 for the full edition of the game?
They can do whatever because the game isn't impacted by online complaints
It sucks, and it shouldn't be the norm but they can strongarm whatever choice they make because they're too big to fail
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u/-Mobile-Nothing- 7h ago
It is okay if it's actually because of decade/generation defining technical fidelity and not just because the devs are lazy and don't want to optimize
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u/NightMoon233 6h ago
The original post sounds like a goomba fallacy
People who wouldn't actually care or notice 30 vs 60 fps are the really casual player base, which gta brings in in DROVES
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u/Leon3226 7h ago
I still can't wrap my head around people justifying that in 2026 for any game at all. Like, people were making fun of 30 fps in 2012 and earlier, but then it was kinda understandable because the hardware was considered shit. TWO GENERATIONS of consoles passed, almost 15 years, and people still defend their privilege to play in 30 fps. Wtf? I will probably log in on Reddit in the year 2077 to see people discussing new release for PlayStation 33, and saying 30 fps is perfectly fine, and nobody needs more
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 5h ago
THIS! Last week 2 different studios were getting flamed for this.
It’s a AAA $100 game FFS!
60 FPS should be a guarantee!
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u/AirFrierMachine 4h ago
You can't magically make the game 60FPS without MAJOR sacrifices to NPC AI/density, traffic density, resolution, reflection quality and overall visual fidelity.
Aiming for 60FPS would have made this game feel fundamentally stripped down in comparison to what we'll get.
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u/ImNotSkankHunt42 4h ago
I get that, I do. It’s a compromise but part of optimization is to give the consumer agency over these things. I’m not too worried, the game looked good. How far to render buildings and objects, particle density, reflections, the water alone looks like it needs a dedicated GPU to render physics and textures.
If they don’t have that yet is an incomplete game being sold at $100.
But having been burned by CyberPunk I do fear we’re being primed for disappointment after such a marvelous reveal. They could be misleading us and even reaching 30 is not a given.
We’ll see.
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u/mrloko120 4h ago
There is a loud minority of players that actually complain about locked FPS, since GTA reaches a way larger audience than most other games the fact that the complainers are a minority becomes more obvious than usual.
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u/Party_Virus 5h ago
I've never quite understood why people are upset with 30 fps. Film runs at 24 fps and no one is bitching about that. Like, yes you can tell the difference between 30-60 frames, and games are quite a bit faster paced than most shows or films with more happening in them, but I've never had an issue with 30 fps for a single player game.
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u/WJMazepas 6h ago
Because they want really badly to play GTA 6
Yes everyone prefers 60FPS, but its better to play at 30FPS than to not play at all
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u/Beautiful-Support977 7h ago
What do people even mean by saying “its ok” or “its not ok”
The console can either handle the game or can’t. And its a 6 year old console with a weak ass cpu. Blame the fucking console
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u/PlagiT 5h ago
Yeah, blame the console, because the developers couldn't have possibly known what hardware the game would run on and how much it can handle.
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u/sonofzeal 7h ago
Can we just stop normalizing "hey here's this thing I disagree with, posted without any edits whatsoever"? Kinda feels like you're doing their work for them.
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u/Misubi_Bluth 6h ago
The thesis of the AI comic isn't the problem. It's that it's AI stick figures.
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u/machinedskull 8h ago
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u/Majestic_Domestic 7h ago
To be fair we are comparing a game where you have to time your dodge to be within 12-13 frames, to a game that will aim for you.
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u/Highly_Appropiate 7h ago
Games on the switch don't have the same technical expectations of the PS5/XBOX, that's why
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u/RaidenZantetsu 6h ago
I actually see the total opposite. Bloodborne has been destroyed for being at 30 fps while Breath of the Wild got a total pass on it.
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u/Majestic-Assist-3945 1h ago
Um... I hate to tell you, but that's not a Switch 2. It's a regular Switch with a 2 slapped on it. There's no GameChat button and the controller's aren't black. Maybe that's why it's 30fps.
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u/TyphoonToon777 7h ago
Im starting to think redditors dont like ai or something 🤔
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u/Awdweewee 6h ago
I think its more the fact they’re using it to make stick figures. I’m against using ai to make art in general but using it for fucking stick figures? The thing that everyone can draw? It’s just a little baffling is all.
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u/OswaldFan001 7h ago
it's mildlyinfuriating, of course you'll see redditors complaining about ai
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u/Nearby_Ad_2519 7h ago edited 5h ago
People ranting about AI being terrible is literally like half this site atp and it’s genuinely pretty frustrating
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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch 7h ago
If you constantly play on 60+ FPS you do notice if the fps drops to 30 or below
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u/Capable_Tumbleweed34 7h ago
Playing at 120+fps has me noticing 60fps as severely lacking, so 30... Thankfully i'm not touching VI until it's out on pc.
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u/PhosXD 3h ago
You can immediately tell that it's generated & it makes me sick to look at.
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u/Fun-Customer39 7h ago
Ill just wait for the pc release, I couldn't care less about the hype. Ill see you in a few years at solid framerates without upscaled graphics
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u/3215448725366498 7h ago
30 FPS is ok in handheld mode, but on a big screen it honestly has become unplayable for me. Not only does it feel unresponsive and looks blurry, it also just gives me a headache. I played Bloodborne a while ago and adjusting to it took multiple days, it almost ruined the game for me.
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u/ConfusedBaka69 7h ago
I don't understand
I've seen dozens of posts complaining about the fact it's locked to 30 lmao
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u/Misubi_Bluth 7h ago
Saw someone post an AI Lisa Presentation meme once. I was baffled because that template was so easy to find.
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u/Advanced-Garden-9846 7h ago
I can understand (not excuse i just get it) people being so fucking lazy they dont wanna draw detailed art. but to be so god damn pathetic that you cant even draw a legit stick figure and past in a pic of elden ring and a ps5 then youre genuinely the scum of the earth
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u/ZakriiYT 6h ago
It is so funny to me that people will ai generate stick figures, the literal universal symbol of not being skilled in visual art like COME ON
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u/Standard-Produce-137 6h ago
Wow bro, awesome comic, you sure did get em bro, proved em wrong, ya did, you done good bro, like wow bro such insight into a complex issue, wow bro call your mom, tell her you won and be proud wow bro
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u/GangsterMango 6h ago
I saw AI generated wojaks a couple days ago.
it doesn't have THAT hateful energy that evokes anger, just mild annoyance
they managed to make rage slop even sloppier.
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u/Tuckster786 3h ago
The fact that the ai messed up the stick figure on the top is infuriating. It would so much better if they made it themself
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u/Helios_Ra_Phoebus 7h ago
I don’t have a console but Elden Ring doesn’t look graphically impressive enough to run at 30fps, whereas GTA 6 does. Not only does it look graphically more impressive, but the emergent systems will probably way more intricate than whatever Elden Ring has, which is enemies spawning in the same location, and moving back and forth, and that’s it. Like I’m a huge FromSoftware fan and I love their art direction, but let’s not act like their technical prowess is anywhere close to Rockstar. In fact, their tech is often the most criticized aspect of their games, often being dated in various aspects. Their games are hard carried by art direction, and quality in terms of lore, presentation and combat. But not tech.
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u/foul_tarnished_37 6h ago
Why some people act like everyone on the internet is a singular person? There are loads of people upset that GTA 6 isn’t 60 FPS.
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u/meikaishi 5h ago
I'm 100% sure that it would be literally faster do draw the meme yourself than the time he took to prompt it to the AI
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u/KaiAusBerlin 7h ago
I mostly had nintendo consoles and low end gaming PCs. I never had an issue with 30fps.
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u/Heather_Chandelure 7h ago
If youre used to playing at 60fps or more, dropping to 30 is definitely something you will notice.
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u/SicknessVoid 7h ago
30 FPS is unacceptable in YearX is such a weird take to me. Why is it unacceptable now when it was fine in the past? Yeah sure computational power has become better, but for games like GTA6 they decided to use that additional power for better graphics while sacrificing framerate. This balancing act between graphics and performance will ALWAYS be a thing, no matter what year.
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u/SadSecurity 5h ago
Shit you're right, we should go back to 480p. After all why it shouldn't be acceptable in 2026, am I right?
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u/SicknessVoid 5h ago
I have no idea how that is the conclusion you draw from what I said. No, I'm not saying we should just be fine with everything. In fact, I was saying the opposite. People expect their games to look better and better but don't understand computational power is a finite resource. A 30 fps game would simply look worse running at 60 on the same hardware. People are already somehow complaining that GTA6 doesn't look as good as they expected. The only expection is games that just run badly because of bad optimization, but that does not seem to be the case for Elden Ring and GTA6 as far as we can tell so far.
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u/Secure-Advertising-9 5h ago
Oh come on, this is so simple to draw, you didn't have to use AI for it.
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u/Ok-Replacement-2738 7h ago
tbf one can be played by a potato, the other requires some timing skills where frames do matter.
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u/Didact67 6h ago
To be faaaair... Elden Ring requires more precise timing than a GTA game. Though somehow we got through Bloodborne at 30fps.
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u/WendigoCrossing 6h ago
To be fair, milliseconds can make the difference in Elden Ring and Souls games
GTA6 is a lot more forgiving
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u/Trojanheadcoach 6h ago
I didn’t even notice Elden was 30 bruh like that is not what I care about in a video game
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u/Big_Niel0802 6h ago
It's crazy too cos it's not like there aren't existing meme templates that would convey the same message perfectly, while simultaneously being immediately recognizable.
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u/lolschrauber 6h ago
I'm not paying 80 bucks for subpar Elden Ring port on a fake physical cartridge.
That said I probably won't buy GTA 6 either.
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u/Destronoma 6h ago
I will always prefer 60 fps when I can get it, and depending on the game... but 30 is perfectly playable, and I'll gladly take it for gta 6.
Until the inevitable "next gen ultimate edition" or whatever where the game runs at 60 as a baseline.
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u/The_CEO_Of_No 6h ago
man this reminds me of the stupid “i cant even draw stickfigures” but that type of person took it literally
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u/NightlyKnightMight 5h ago
To be fair it's amazing that GTA6 can even run at 30fps on PS5, considering how heavy it looks.
But I won't be playing it until I can do it on PC at +60fps. Sorry folks, I'm one of those people that went above 60Hz and now I can't go back ever, 30fps just feels incredibly sluggish to me, my brain doesn't like it either makes me wooooozy
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u/IncognitoRedMode 5h ago
As unplayable as Bloodborne. As in it's just fine, just not that nice and getting a 60FPS remaster would be great. And getting a PC/Xbox/whatever release too to make it more accessible so it wouldn't be just on PS4
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u/Downtown_Ambition604 5h ago
Whoa whoa. Wlden ring has been at 30 fps this whole time? Huh?? Damn. Shit looks great
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u/Smart_Ass_Jack 5h ago
If I remember correctly, due to a frame pacing issue, playing at a solid 30 fps is better than trying to play at 60. At least that was the case at launch
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u/No-Abbreviations2897 5h ago
Both of these games will get away with a lot that other games would get crucified for. That's what being a generationally good game gets ya, though.
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u/OSRSRapture 5h ago
Complaining about 30fps in Elden ring makes a lot more sense seeing the combat is actually challenging and you have to really study bosses attacks. GTA is just GTA, it's not a hard game lol
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u/Fancykingkirby 8h ago edited 7h ago
Edit: removed the fuckass ifunny watermark