Petahhhhhhhhh!??!?

[u/Hunan_Palace]

[u/PeterExplainsTheJoke-ModTeam]

Thank you for the explanations; this post has been locked.

[u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

real answer: they raped and pillaged. Sacked a city, killed people, stole shit, took women slaves

[u/Ok_Honeydew180 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

This is like the 15th comment down for me lol. You’re right though they even say in the movie that they were doing this.

[u/Hobo-man → u/Ok_Honeydew180]

They literally had the reputation of the sea people who bring forth the apocalypse because of how much they did that shit

[u/javierbardeminem → u/Hobo-man]

“are we the baddies”?

[u/bravoromeo6601 → u/javierbardeminem]

Seems like they took the 'live long enough to see yourself become the villian' seriously

[u/SocraticIndifference → u/javierbardeminem]

This is straight up the thesis of the original Odyssey (imho). Nolan did a decent job translating, but yeah: the self-hate runs deep in the Greeks. The root of Ody-sseus is the same as odi-um; he’s literally the hated/hateful/hate-filled man.

[u/Archaea_Man → u/javierbardeminem]

Are there skulls on your uniforms?

[u/Logical_Change_8404 → u/Hobo-man]

Are they the Sea People? As in yhe Greeks?

Ive never really made the connection, before.

[u/Ig_Met_Pet → u/Logical_Change_8404]

The whole "we're the sea people" thing is an addition that's just in the movie.

[u/WannaBeSuiko → u/Ig_Met_Pet]

It’s actually not a newly added thought by this movie. Historians have been tracking that Greek tribes were likely part of the sea peoples since the term sea peoples existed as in the list of names of tribes by the ancient Egyptians of people who came by sea that they defeated (and who were thus associated with other collapses with Bronze Age civilians around the same time). These tribes were known to be Greek tribes in other associations and hieroglyphs.

From Google/AI as I can’t remember the name of tribes myself: The primary tribes include the Ekwesh, Denyen (or Danuna), and possibly the Peleset and Tjeker.

[u/EvergreenDwarf → u/Logical_Change_8404]

In real life they were most likely similar to the Wako Pirates who harassed the sea between China, Japan, and Korea. 

A mix of refugees and outcasts from the very nations they raided, bolstered by dissatisfied soldiers and mercenaries once they started having big success, with its origins being small ethnic groups living in isolated and/or nomadic communities on islands or up rivers that confederated. 

When the pirates/bandits do really well for a long time it becomes a viable potential for your military career, and now suddenly the plunderers can start looking at raiding cities rather than just villages. 

[u/Siria110 → u/Ok_Honeydew180]

They even said it in the book. :-D The main conflict of Illiad is just this - Achaeans pillaged a nearby town during the siege of Troy for resources. Among those resources were girls. The leader, Agamemnon, took the one he liked the most, but there was a problem: her daddy was the main priest at local temple of Apollo (which is why they left him alive).
Of course he didn´t want his daughter taken into slavery, but as the town was entirely defeated, he did only thing he could: prayed to Apollo to get his daughter back. Well, Apollo heard him and soon first their dogs, then cattle, then horses and then men started dying. Agamemnon asked their soothsayer why is that, and he told them the cause.
Long story short, to placate Apollo, they had to return the girl to her dad (and untouched, if you please, if you catch my drift) and let them freely leave the town, if they choose to do so.
After that, Agamemnon was not happy that he is without a girl from that town, so being a leader, he forcefuly took one from his men that he liked the most - the girl that Achilleus chose. Of course, Achilleus was less then happy, and thus, the conflict was born.

[u/gauderio → u/Siria110]

and thus, the conflict was born.

Old book conflicts were wild. It blows my mind that was considered okay at the time. In the Odissey and the Illiad, capturing women was described in the same sentence as the weather.

[u/Nightraven9999 → u/Ok_Honeydew180]

Well it makes sense this comment isnt high because its not explaining the joke its explaining history

The joke is gay sex

[u/Fine-Friendship-1292 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

Wait a minute.. they stole shit??!

[u/Particular_Title42 → u/Fine-Friendship-1292]

Not literal shit. Just stuff and people and animals.

[u/Evil_Dry_frog → u/Particular_Title42]

Maybe shit too, cow pies and be used for fuel.

[u/kassandra_00 → u/Fine-Friendship-1292]

Like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/FarthestFrontier/s/7i4ILMZQ2X

[u/choeseybread88 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

Just read a book about the Trojan war, and yeah before the fighting with the actual Trojans, they would go around and pillage rural towns to put pressure on the leadership of Troy to do something (as they were shacked up behind the gates for a while). They’d take the women from these villages as slaves and rape them.

[u/yourstruly912 → u/choeseybread88]

And then fight over who keeps the women resulting in your best warrior going on a strike which almost make you lose the war

[u/apworker37 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

In the story Odysseus stays with Circe for a year doing all that. And then with Calypso for seven years. He got his.

[u/Moon_Logic → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

And had sex with two goddesses. Yes, no explicit gay sex in Homer.

[u/Diredr → u/Moon_Logic]

No sex IN Homer, so that just means Homer is a top.

[u/Ok-Lavishness-349 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

Yup, that was pretty much the point of volume 1 in the series, The Iliad. What do you suppose Agamemnon and Achilles were arguing about?

[u/Motor_Ideal7494 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

Yeah, when Odysseus briefly mentions the “sweaty celebrations” over the next couple of days after the city fell, I knew they were trying their hardest to acknowledge real life while still making us care a bit about the main characters/gang rapists.  

[u/yourstruly912 → u/Motor_Ideal7494]

Nolan is a coward for not showing the slave market post falling of Troy (Odysseus since he was such a nice guy got an old woman to help Penélope in her tasks instead of a sex slave like everyone else)

[u/Abject_Oil_1349 → u/Serious_Emphasis2211]

Yeah this is it. Constant throughout history

[u/Kronos1A9]

Fun fact: The Greeks invented orgies.
Fun fact: The Romans introduced women to the orgies.

[u/sovietmcdavid → u/Kronos1A9]

Exactly there's a few variations on this joke lol

[u/the_sneaky_one123 → u/sovietmcdavid]

How do Greeks separate Men from Boys?

With a crowbar

[u/trixter21992251 → u/the_sneaky_one123]

you kiss the boy on the mouth, then blow really hard like he's a balloon. The man should pop out.

[u/StableWeak → u/trixter21992251]

The most dangerous job in the world? Playing Center on a Greek football team.

[u/dmdoom_Abaan → u/sovietmcdavid]

The Greeks invented sex.

The Romans discovered it could be had with women.

[u/shortname_4481 → u/dmdoom_Abaan]

In 1272 Arabs invented a condom by using the goat's lower intestine to prevent the spread of STDs. In 1873 the British have refined the design by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

[u/bridgesny → u/sovietmcdavid]

I once got to witness an old Greek man and an old Italian man act it out At a bar and I had no idea they were both in on the old joke. I thought it was the greatest thing ever at the time.

The Greek: Greece is superior in every way! We did everything first.

The Italian: yes, but Rome improved on everything Greece did.

Greek: Greece invented all the military tactics Rome used.

Italian: yes but Rome perfected them.

Greek: Greece invented democracy

Italian: in little city states. Rome brought it to an empire.

Greek: Greece invented romance!

Italian: yes but the Roman’s introduced it to women!

[u/PunchDrunken → u/Kronos1A9]

I think people have been wilding out in a group thing since before we were even this version of human lol

[u/Legitimate_Post_22 → u/PunchDrunken]

Yep, the Greeks didn't invent orgies, that's a pop myth. They invented the word "orgy," which is the one we use today (its Jurassic version actually), but Greek orgies weren't even sexual; they were just people dancing or something.

The closest thing to this modern concept of an orgy in antiquity are the Symposium and the conviviums. I say closest because yes, there were orgies between men, but it was a kind of rape orgy because none of those serving the people there wanted to be there, LOL.

[u/ydddy55 → u/Kronos1A9]

Leave it to the Romans to ruin everything smh

[u/NwgrdrXI]

Everyone is saying gay sex and all that, but honestly... is ye really asking if it is possible to spend 20 years without sex? Is thst really so preposterous? I think a lot of people in reddit could and have done it?

[u/Pickled_doggo → u/NwgrdrXI]

It’s not like they’re going 20 years without jerkin it 

[u/Lower_Pension_2469 → u/Pickled_doggo]

I mean it's a joke, but also the likely explanation is that yes they jerked it or they just got prostitutes whenever they docked at whatever port they needed to go to for resupply. This is something that happened a lot and still kinda happens today with sex workers hanging out in places where military be at.

[u/rheasilva → u/Lower_Pension_2469]

If you're actually familiar with the Odyssey you'll know that the story is mostly Odysseus having sex with various women, interspersed with escaping from monsters.

[u/Huge_Following_325 → u/Lower_Pension_2469]

There another option you aren't seeing.

[u/-ElectricKoolAid → u/Huge_Following_325]

if they weren't gay, the probably didn't do anything gay

[u/QueueModernsXXXX → u/-ElectricKoolAid]

They meant rape.

[u/National_Tangelo_864 → u/-ElectricKoolAid]

In antiquity sexuality wasn't binary straight/gay. Everyone pretty much understood it was spectrum and we all got that bi dog in us. Hell see jails in modern day. Or the Navy. Same concept. Plus no way contraceptives to stop women from getting prego.

It's why as they say men/boys are for fun, women are for marriage. They were no doubt about that life.

[u/DarthJarJarJar → u/National_Tangelo_864]

As I understand it, the Greek view of male sexuality wasn't what we would call gay/straight, but more like fucker/fuckee. They separated male sexuality by what you did, rather than who you did it to. So you were a "penetrator" or a "penetratee" rather than gay or straight.

[u/Pegussu → u/Lower_Pension_2469]

In those times, I think it was less getting prostitutes when docking for supplies and more raping women when you raid villages for supplies.

[u/arrogantmonkey → u/Lower_Pension_2469]

Its a joke but actual explanation is that Odysseus was banging Calypso and Circe the whole time

[u/Madroc92 → u/Lower_Pension_2469]

And often had prostitutes that travelled with them. And wantonly raped local women wherever they went.

[u/AncientCrust → u/Pickled_doggo]

Yep. In front of each other because it's a small boat. At that point, you might as well do the gay stuff

[u/dprophet34 → u/AncientCrust]

It’s not gay if you keep your sandals on

[u/athalwolf506 → u/dprophet34]

Is not gay if your crewmate became a pig

[u/GriSciuridae → u/athalwolf506]

What if the crew mate was a pig to begin with? (Asking for a friend.)

[u/Jack_Mehoff_420_69 → u/GriSciuridae]

metaphorically or literally?

[u/Jazmadoodle → u/Jack_Mehoff_420_69]

Yeah

[u/GriSciuridae → u/Jack_Mehoff_420_69]

I keep no metaphorical friends, sir.

[u/SpoddyCoder → u/athalwolf506]

Squeal piggy!!

[u/fgzhtsp → u/dprophet34]

Ancient greek wisdom

[u/Just-Elderberry5460 → u/AncientCrust]

No you just must maintain eye contact with the person across from you so it’s not gay

[u/Ill-GottenBooty → u/Just-Elderberry5460]

Exactly. If you’re maintaining eye contact you can’t look at each others weiners while you’re doing it. Not gay.

[u/kaos-mantra → u/Just-Elderberry5460]

Exactly! You gotta whisper "No homo" as you both...finish..to make it less awkward.

[u/Akarin_rose → u/AncientCrust]

Well before they had circles it was called oblongjerks

[u/Particular_Title42 → u/Akarin_rose]

Tell me more about the time before circles.

[u/Akarin_rose → u/Particular_Title42]

It's a not a story a Jedi would tell you

So I can't, because I am a Jedi

Hands are tied

[u/Umbra427 → u/Pickled_doggo]

BEHOLDETH, I CRANKETH MY HOG IN THE NAME OF THE OLD GODS

[u/WarsonCentzz → u/NwgrdrXI]

Underrated comment 😂

[u/PerceptionNo50 → u/WarsonCentzz]

Reddit collectively took that question as a personal attack 😂

[u/Fuzzy-Jaguar-1828 → u/PerceptionNo50]

I took it as a challenge 👑

[u/5hawnking5 → u/Fuzzy-Jaguar-1828]

Break the 19 year dry spell, we're rootin for ya!

[u/IkariYun → u/5hawnking5]

Can you call it a dry spell if they're only 22?

[u/Indecisive_Animorph → u/IkariYun]

Wait wait wait

They're 22 and haven't had sex in 19 years??

😬😬😬😬😬

[u/UrbanSobriety → u/Indecisive_Animorph]

Evil world we live in...

[u/the_last_carfighter → u/UrbanSobriety]

Yep, not since they visited that "island".. bone dry since then.

[u/YaoiNekomata → u/Indecisive_Animorph]

So ugly even the PDF file didn't try again

[u/areanod → u/YaoiNekomata]

Peter File?

IT-Crowd anyone?

[u/StructureLanky3368 → u/Fuzzy-Jaguar-1828]

U took it as a champ.

[u/Obtain_Virtue → u/WarsonCentzz]

Stealing the top comment:

I also feel like modern-day people are way more hornier in general. We are constantly exposed to sex, and things we are attracted. Advertisements, movies, random posts, music... Even if we aren't making a conscious thought about it, it still "triggers" our brains to enter reproduction mode.

Even at my horniest, If I was stuck on boat for weeks on end with a bunch of dudes, after seeing the things you have to see and smelling how those ogres smelled. Ain't no way Willy even stands tall.

[u/danny_little → u/Obtain_Virtue]

As a history buff, I can say without a doubt that people are exactly as horny as they have always been lmfao the only thing is that a lot of the stuff people used to do are illegal now!!🤣

[u/Ninja-Panda86 → u/danny_little]

Right? I've seen the Pre-columbian erotic sculptures. I'm also aware of some of the naughty art they found in Pompeii

[u/Top_Seaweed7189 → u/Ninja-Panda86]

Don't forget the rabbits ridding on flying dicks in books copied by christian monks. And how many there are...

[u/Wash-Bucket-3000 → u/Top_Seaweed7189]

And all those fart jokes. Medieval monks really went for low brow humor.

[u/_DankyHavok_ → u/Top_Seaweed7189]

Please elaborate...

[u/HowFortuitous → u/_DankyHavok_]

Imagine it's your job to sit in a cellar and copy text painstakingly by hand. Day after day for years you copy the words and draw the little doodles that people expect in manuscripts. Somewhere in your 6th year of doing this one of your bros shows you he drew a chicken with a pair of nuts hanging off its face. He's also done a rabbit hanging a huntsman like the hunter is on trial. Other bro tells you he pretty regularly does little flying dongs just to liven things up.

How long before your little doodles include guys with arrows sticking out of their asses?

Do this tens of thousands of times across a few centuries and you get some weird fucking doodles.

[u/Complex_Watch1484 → u/HowFortuitous]

History buff telling us that bros doodling weenies instead of doing their job is a tale as old as time 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you HowFortuitous 😂
Edit-i apologize for sounding sarcastic. I was in a goofy mood and was actually being serious. I totally agreed with HowFortuitous

[u/Specialist-Freedom64 → u/Complex_Watch1484]

Drug and alcohol fueled orgies in rome, pedo sex with young boys in greence, bisexual sex not being frowned apon, vikings raping the living shit out of every damn country they hit.

[u/kodeks14 → u/Complex_Watch1484]

Go to any construction site and its happening to this day. Nobody working and there are dicks drawn on everything.

[u/Top_Seaweed7189 → u/_DankyHavok_]

Pretty much that what I explained. Just search for medieval drawings of rabbits riding flying dicks. You will not get fury porn, at least not modern one. Only on your own risk.

[u/Doom_Balloon → u/Ninja-Panda86]

SOME naughty art? There’s literally an entire section of the Pompeii archeological museum dedicated to art of Priapus (giant penises including the god with the penis so big it’s in a wheeled cart in front of him) and fertility sculptures, in addition to all the “menu” art for the brothel and all the normally moderately sexual mythical imagery.

[u/Commentor9001 → u/danny_little]

The only people who think modern society is way more sexualized, haven't really studied history at all.

Its just lazy purtianism, wrapped up in "it used to be better".

[u/Choice_Protection_17 → u/danny_little]

if any thing id argue the aincient had more sex then we did they didnt have netflix or game to isolate and have fun with, live could end abruplty at any year. Only ways to have fun on a regular basis where drinking gambeling and fucking

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki → u/danny_little]

let's just throw a dart at a list of stuff from ancient Egypt Toss

alright we landed on "the naked dwarf room covered in smut traditionally used to cure impotence"

[u/Sorry141 → u/an_agreeing_dothraki]

Wasn't there a ceremony where the pharaoh was on one side of the Nile facing the crowd on the other side as they watched him jack off into the river to ensure a fruitful harvest

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki → u/Sorry141]

jorkin' is a key aspect of the cosmology

[u/destiny_kane48 → u/danny_little]

I was gonna say.. I've seen some ancient murals, drawings and sculptures that say people have always been dirty minded and horny.

[u/Bahamut3585 → u/danny_little]

Lot of the stuff was illegal then, too, but it's still illegal now.

[u/Wash-Bucket-3000 → u/danny_little]

100% agree. Previous poster needs to read more history. We didn’t survive all those wars, famines and plagues because our ancestors were abstaining.

[u/danny_little → u/Wash-Bucket-3000]

Haha like rabbits 🐇

[u/IceDelusion → u/Obtain_Virtue]

it's kinda funny. Because people have far less sex nowadays, going by the statistics

[u/EnginesofWar → u/Obtain_Virtue]

Oh please. People are less horny now if anything; everything you mention means we’re more desensitized to erotic stimuli. Back in the day a drawing of a boob was enough to send a young man whacking. With all the sexual morality and courtship requirements, society was collectively edging and I’m pretty sure people were hornier. And if they’re weren’t more horny then, then they were JUST AS horny as they’ve always been.

[u/BatJew_Official → u/Obtain_Virtue]

Count argument - sex was one of the only enjoyable things a person could regularly take part in for the vast majority of history. Sports and games weren't just a thing you could do after work, there was no TV and unless you were rich no music you could just put on, and eating as a fun activity (being a foodie, if you will) wasn't a thing regular people could afford. There were absolutely times for games and feasts and enjoying the arts, but day to day your options for "fun" were really just hangin out with you family, drinking, and shagging.

[u/GOU_FallingOutside → u/BatJew_Official]

> Count argument

One, two, three arguments! Ah ha ha! 🧛‍♂️🦇

[u/TheDrewb → u/[deleted]]

People bathed regularly, and had soap, they just didn't take BATHS regularly. I wish this modern idea that everyone in pre-modern times walked around caked in filth all day would die already

[u/JuryOk2662 → u/TheDrewb]

Yeah soap has been a thing for thousands of years.

[u/evilforska → u/[deleted]]

The shit women would do to enjoy sex without having children, woof

[u/Duke_Of_Halifax → u/Obtain_Virtue]

You sir, are very wrong.

Go look at Roman graffiti, or just look at the fertility gods that were all over the place.

Ancient folks were horny as fuck, and sexual imagery was EVERYWHERE.

(Things they don't tell you during the tour of Pompeii)😂

[u/Careful_Ad_9077 → u/NwgrdrXI]

They also had a merry time at circe's island

[u/101TARD → u/Careful_Ad_9077]

EURYLOCHUS: But this was a hell of a twist ,Cause we are weak to a power like this

ODYSSEUS: What was it?

EURYLOCHUS: A woman

[u/YellowTonkaTrunk → u/101TARD]

What

[u/101TARD → u/YellowTonkaTrunk]

She had us with just 2 words

[u/CuddlesForLuck → u/101TARD]

"Come inside."

[u/101TARD → u/CuddlesForLuck]

Damn

[u/InformationTrick8714 → u/101TARD]

I had to explain to my wife how that line would be so effective. She’s a little vanilla lol

[u/Ayrko → u/101TARD]

Welcome to the best part of your lives

[u/Babbit55 → u/Ayrko]

Go ahead and rest wherever you like

[u/darkunknowperson → u/Babbit55]

I got you, don't worry Circe's got you noow!

[u/Lolkimbo → u/CuddlesForLuck]

DON'T TEMPT ME, FRODO! I DARE NOT TAKE IT!

[u/CheesyDanny → u/NwgrdrXI]

Wait which reddit achievement is that? How do I see my progress?

[u/brownies_delight → u/NwgrdrXI]

I’m 30 and I’ve never had sex. Totally possible

[u/OwnJunket6495 → u/brownies_delight]

Yer a wizard, Harry!

[u/brownies_delight → u/OwnJunket6495]

Sadly I have to wait 10 more years technically but I can’t wait
🧙‍♂️

Edit:found out the original age according to the meme is 30. I’m a wizard, let’s goo

[u/Felixkeeg → u/brownies_delight]

They had to move it up to 40 because the Arcane Wizard Society claimed that there were too many new wizards coming in.

Talk about pulling up the ladder behind you.

[u/OwnJunket6495 → u/brownies_delight]

Oh shit I forgot it was 40 lmao… carry on 🫡

[u/fgzhtsp → u/OwnJunket6495]

Wan't it 30 in Japan?

[u/violet_wings → u/OwnJunket6495]

As an asexual forty something who has no desire whatsoever to have sex with anyone, I really feel like I kind of cheated my way into wizarddom. I mean, sure, I can throw fireballs and turn water into Mountain Dew, but I didn't really have to suffer for it the way other wizards did.

[u/lbutler1234 → u/brownies_delight]

You bastard!

Your virginity streak has usurped mine!

[u/whalatix → u/brownies_delight]

So... what wizard subclass have you picked?

[u/brownies_delight → u/whalatix]

Healing/support. Always my playstyle

[u/Particular_Title42 → u/brownies_delight]

It's a great way to make friends.

But evidently not a good way to get laid.

[u/Snow_97 → u/NwgrdrXI]

Also, during the trojan war, many of those men would have also kept women they captured as slaves or camp servants. So, pretty sure they were sexually active.

Odysseus might not have been during the trojan war (or at least I don't think it's mentioned if he did or did not in the text), but he did have sex with Calypso and Circe during the trip back.

[u/Swimming_Bag7362 → u/NwgrdrXI]

They also took slaves from Troy and raped them. Not to mention Odysseus fucked Circe and Calypso

[u/PrinceCavendish → u/NwgrdrXI]

greeks loved gay sex though

[u/lettsten → u/PrinceCavendish]

As the saying goes: The Greeks invented sex. The Romans discovered that you can include women

[u/M3rdsta → u/lettsten]

Isn't the full one the same, but with "and the Egyptians discovered sex with adults"

[u/PrinceCavendish → u/lettsten]

lmaaoo

[u/Particular_Title42 → u/NwgrdrXI]

is ye really asking 

I thought for just a second that Kanye was the OOP.

[u/aruisdante → u/NwgrdrXI]

I mean they could have, but the history of sailors suggests very, very strongly that they wouldn’t have.

Historical sailors were notorious for taking advantage of the local sex workers, and contracting the associated  venereal  diseases. Every wonder why most sailor’s uniforms have 4-6 buttons on the pants, usually on both sides such that you usage to undo them all to take your pants off? Yeah, it was to make the sailors have to think twice (and be sober enough to possess the needed dexterity) before indulging, a vain attempt to reduce the rate of infection aboard ships. The expression “think twice” itself is possibly coined from this practice.

When they didn’t see shore for long enough, they turned to what was available, each other, or the animals kept onboard for slaughter. The Royal Navy’s Articles of War during the 1600-1800’s had  Article 29, which punished sodomy/buggery with death by hanging. Other naval codes had similar rules. There aren’t exact records of how many times it was invoked, but there are records of 4+ sailors being hung at once for it.

Beyond that… they’re ancient Greeks. Ancient Greeks were not exactly known for their strict heterosexuality. Achilles and Pericles were expressly in a pederastic relationship in the Iliad. 

[u/BayesianBits → u/NwgrdrXI]

Gay sex, prostitution is very regular at war camps, also rape.

[u/ShiroTenshiRyu77 → u/NwgrdrXI]

Without sex? Yeah sure. Without sexual activity? Fuck no. Every last one of them fucks found a corner where they go to jerk off, and they all pretend only they know, and if you see someone in the jerk off corner, no you fucking didn't.

[u/No_Apartment3941 → u/NwgrdrXI]

Most Redditiors would say once every 20 years makes them a player.

[u/Longjumping-Yak-6038 → u/[deleted]]

Most of us don’t know at the time that it’s our last time to do something. Similarly even if it’s not the last time, we don’t know how long before the next time.

If these guys knew in year one that they would not be home for another 19 years then they might do some gay stuff. But as it goes, one year turns into two and so forth.

[u/StrangePotato3988 → u/NwgrdrXI]

Sex and rape have been a part of war throughout human history. War is traumatic and those men try to find comfort in whatever form they can. The leader doesn’t really care what they do except if it affects their ability to fight.

[u/A_Snow_Mexican → u/NwgrdrXI]

How so many just jumped straight to gay is hilarious. Maybe a few but a whole damn boat? Personally I'm taking the 20 years of celibacy and maybe get tricked by a Siren.

[u/Behbista → u/A_Snow_Mexican]

The manatees look sexier by the day.

[u/Groningen1978 → u/Behbista]

Mermaids are just manatees through the eyes of horny sailors.

[u/DeltaVZerda → u/A_Snow_Mexican]

They're ancient Greeks, it would have been weird if they didn't do the gay sex.

[u/Dave_A480 → u/DeltaVZerda]

Except for the lack of boys on the crew to serve as partners.....

[u/pandareno → u/[deleted]]

I realize this is Rome and not Greece, but I'll never forget the scene in Caligula when he first rapes the bride and then the soldier who's just married her.

[u/pandareno → u/[deleted]]

I mean, it is a movie, made by Penthouse no less. I didn't mean to imply it was historically accurate, my bad.

[u/CathanCrowell → u/A_Snow_Mexican]

Hmm, even today, homosexual behavior is fairly common in environments where people are separated from the opposite sex, such as ships or during mandatory military service. Now add to that the fact that, in ancient Greece, same-sex relationships were not as common as many people believe, but they also weren't considered a disgusting sin.

Statistically, not everyone would have participated, but many certainly would have.

[u/DiksieNormus → u/NwgrdrXI]

Yeah, after a couple of weeks on reddit I was so surprised that so many people here had sex.

It took me a good while to realise alot of them are just larping!!!

[u/zaviamorpheus → u/NwgrdrXI]

Redditors don't do it willingly. Lol

[u/craigularperson → u/NwgrdrXI]

I once went 28 years without having sex. And then again for seven years.

[u/MrPagan1517]

Yeah there is the ha gay sex bit but in reality they raped and pillaged basically everytime they came across an semblance of civilization.

Literally the first stop they make after leaving Troy in the Odyssey they slaughter the first town they come across and take the women as slaves. They spend time on the beach celebrating which gives the locals time to regroup and drive Odysseus and his men off and retake the loot they pillage but it doesn't really say anything about the women I would assume they were also rescued.

Also only Odysseus was gone for 20 years (the last of his crew died in like 13 years in). The first 10 years they were siegeing Troy and there would have been camp followers as well as slaves at the camp. They also stayed a whole year with Circie and her nymphs. Also Odysseus fucks alot deepening on the tradition you go with. He has children with Circie and Calypso so no he didn't go 20 years without sex.

[u/TehAsianator → u/MrPagan1517]

I find it funny how a big deal is made of Penelope refusing the suitors and staying loyal, but Odysseus spends 7 years of his 10 year "return journey" on an island paradise banging Calypso. I know she wasn't letting him leave, but still....

[u/jigokusabre → u/TehAsianator]

As I recall, Callipso was compelling Odysseus.

She says something to Hermes like "I can control him at night, but every day he sits on the beach and looks out with tears in his eye."

[u/Newt_Southern → u/TehAsianator]

There was no concept of male infidelity In Ancient Greece only married women was taboo. Slaves , randoms and even teens was ok until they was not married. Its all about inheritance and legal heir. On the other side married women couldn't be alone in with men if it's not their relatives.

[u/Away_Stock_2012 → u/MrPagan1517]

>in reality

Sit down, I want to tell you something.

[u/MrPagan1517 → u/Away_Stock_2012]

Yeah Yeah Yeah It's a work of fiction. I was talking about the actual odyssey not Nolan's

[u/Abject_Oil_1349]

I think they meant rape, not gay sex...

[u/Disastrous-Ad2800 → u/Abject_Oil_1349]

that's what I thought as well.... because saying gay sex is funnier and safer than the actually horrifying reality

[u/Sure-Restaurant7275 → u/Disastrous-Ad2800]

I’m gonna be honest I would not be surprised if it was both.

[u/THroWAwaYyfuckw → u/Sure-Restaurant7275]

I was gonna say… there had to be at least SOME gay sex. I mean come on

[u/uwunuzzlesch → u/Abject_Oil_1349]

Historically you slept with your battle brothers so like..

Idk it could mean both but honestly the gay sex is a much better joke. The other isnt rlly funny at all.

[u/RigglesSaysHi]

pp in buthol

[u/chiefminestrone → u/RigglesSaysHi]

The Greeks would never!!

[u/One-Commission-8141 → u/chiefminestrone]

[u/Deathstroke317 → u/chiefminestrone]

You know what they say, the Greeks invented the threesome and the Romans added women to it.

[u/Maybe_Ra]

They had sex slaves while on the beach, and they also raped troyans to death. But yeah, also gay sex.

[u/vicariousmirror → u/Maybe_Ra]

Not too mention the odd diety

[u/Behavior-Coach]

Even if they weren’t gay, this meme would be describing the average redditor.

[u/luluciee]

gay

[u/InactiveMedusa → u/luluciee]

[u/luluciee → u/[deleted]]

say gex

[u/memelorddiabeetus → u/luluciee]

gex

[u/OuttHouseMouse → u/memelorddiabeetus]

Gae

[u/doomus_rlc → u/OuttHouseMouse]

[u/UnforeseenDerailment → u/[deleted]]

Gay sex with each gay ch'other.

[u/1968GTCS → u/luluciee]

While this is a possibility, it also seems like you missed some major points of the movie/story. Odysseus’s crew did a lot of raping and pillaging. They were punished for their actions.

[u/this_broccoli-101]

Has any of you ever listen at school?  Odysseus fuck'*d like every woman he met. Meanwhile his wifw was actually unactive for 20 years while waiting for him

[u/Shagyam]

Twenty years with no sex is doable, especially for redditors.

Odysseus's men were only out for 13 years, Odysseus spent 7 years with Calypso. But His men were having sex in those 13 years, just not with their wives.

[u/mick-rad17]

Odysseus hooked up with Calypso for like 7 years lol. And that was after all the post-Troy r@ping and pillaging. So they definitely had sex during that time

[u/HalcyonTraveler → u/mick-rad17]

"Hooked up with" is a real weird way of describing "was kept as a prisoner and raped by a goddess while crying himself to sleep every night"

[u/Mysterious-Smell-975 → u/HalcyonTraveler]

mf got raped in a cave

[u/celestia_keaton → u/mick-rad17]

He also hooked up with Circe for a year and had three children with her. For someone who missed his wife, the guy got around 

[u/Aratix]

The joke is homosexuality

[u/Flat-Structure-7472]

Let me tell you, ancient Greeks and Romans would look at us as insecure weirdos, who would be confused by the idea of only be attracted to one gender.

[u/spring_rd → u/Flat-Structure-7472]

Found the Ancient Greek, gang.

[u/UniversityStrong5725 → u/Flat-Structure-7472]

Apparently they still didn’t just allow it. They centralized it and made it so grown men and teens at best would be put into INSANE depraved relationships together while the older guy had a fucking wife. If two younger guys were into each other it was a huge problem. If two older guys were into each other it was a huge problem. Even lesbians were screwed over, since women could not afford property and be seen as functioning human beings since everyone was stupid or their brain was dying. It all revolved around the older man, because of course it fucking did. The older man was the only person to freely bed both sexes, but he did it in a disgusting and systemic manner that paired him with a goddamn teen boy and a woman who has to pretend she loves her husband for giving her the freedom to stay home all day and practice getting beaten

[u/UwUZombie → u/UniversityStrong5725]

Idk why people want to make it sound consensual or frame it like Ancient Greece was accepting of gae relationships somehow.

It was less about the gae and more about the pedo since the younger person wasn't considered a man and wasn't even old enough to grow a beard.

The act of bottoming itself wasn't actually something that any Greek man would admit doing because it was what women did.

All Greek men back then were expected to get married and have kids. That was one of their duties.

Women = no rights, second class citizens Bottom guys = basically the women in the relationship

But they were still pretty gae ngl.

[u/Dexterspuplife]

Quagmire here, they had Gay sex... giggity

[u/mij8907]