Yeah. Especially since there's usually no win condition. The target will always rubberband to be way ahead of you until you arrive at the destination you're supposed to be at.
That’s why I appreciated the chase in AC2 (might be brotherhood) in one of the secret tombs where you can actually catch him and prevent him from warning the other guards if you do the chase quick enough.
Gives it actual stakes and a win condition and it’s way more exciting for it
Spider-Man kinda made sense as a big focus was utilizing the very unique and well done traversal mechanics.
I mean wouldn’t it be a little disappointing if you had the iconic and extremely well-done web swinging mechanic and all you used it for was going from mission to mission?
As for here, this chase sequence was like 15 seconds and lead to a fight…. Idk why people are getting so worked up about it.
I think its hand holding but using his senses as a coat of paint to make it feel more natural
Like yea, what we're seeing in that red streak is probably a visual representation of the scent that is being left behind that logan is smelling, but its being used as a way to hold your hand incase you lose sight of the guy in red running 10 feet in front of you through what is essentially a 1 way hallway
Also, gotta slow down the chase sequence or players might get overwhelmed. Funny how wolverine jumps like he's on the moon but his sprint is the speed of a casual jog.
I think its supposed to represent his tracking ability as he has heightened senses like smell, but i get your criticism. A lot of games like to hold your hand with these scenarios.
Developers have constantly stated that the red line and things like it are necessary because believe it or not there are MANY people who would 100% get lost, and then get frustrated.
Option to turn it off is the best of both worlds though.
It helps that the level itself for thr Alistar chase is the yellow paint so you naturally follow him because the level design isn't that ambiguous on where to go.
Honestly the 2009 Wolverine game on Xbox 360/PS3 was kind of sick, I remember thinking the real time damage you see on his body and the regeneration of it was really cool. I feel like I haven’t seen a game that has really taken advantage of that kind of stuff, but I’ve always thought realistic looking wounds on where you’ve actually been hit in game as such a cool mechanic, I remember being amazed when it was done in Syphon Filter on PS1.
Also, weren't they actual chase sequences, like if you played well you could catch them early, and if you suck you fail? This chase sequence is just a walking simulator
The game may not look as pretty as modern games do, but it was designed to be rewarding for players who met the game where it was coming from and engaged with all systems.
Systems driven gameplay is one of those things I'm beginning to miss in these big AAA productions...
So lame. I thought we were in a good spot once they started allowing PC release. Personally I'm way more upset about this vs the all-digital future they're selling.
Amazingly short period between Sony claiming the console war victory and Sony panicking about Steam/Microsoft with no more PC ports and diving head first into digital only.
Like damn, the PSN/Helldivers 2/Steam delisting fiasco must have really upset Sony.
Which is hilarious because Helldivers 2 is one of the few times in gaming a studios incompetence actually made the game better.
The whole account linking thing was supposed to be mandatory day one. But because Arrowhead was struggling to work out bugs and the game had really terrible server issues starting out they were told to implement a bypass so Steam users could play. Their initial struggles are actually one of reason the game took off because the bypass allowed anyone and everyone access. If it stayed required? Nobody would have gave that game a chance on PC.
Meanwhile Sony knew all this. They knew the servers were messed up and Sony knew Arrowhead was struggling to fix things. They knew the game was benefiting from being able to be purchased in places PSN didn't exist. And yet there response was? Remove the bypass and force it on everyone!
Like that's tremendous big brain time right there.
It's hilarious to me because Helldivers 2 was one of the few gems in Sony's Concord/Marathon era and they still fucked Helldivers 2 with the PSN requirement.
Having seen Sony's attempts at movies and the executive leaks from before the pandemic...I genuinely just think the Sony leadership are stupid. Like, notable in any industry stupid.
You mean price? That doesn't matter to me much, but I'm not going to buy a console to play its exclusives. If I want a game I dont mind paying full price. They can keep their game discounts. Better for customers to make them available. But they dont care about the customers, obviously
You didn't see the 10/10 "Chasing a guy" gameplay that all gamers universally love?? Where if you are slightly too far away from the guy you're chasing, it makes you start over and your character says the same lines again?
Most games these days don’t even make you start over if you get too far away from the person you’re chasing. Instead it’ll just automatically put up bumpers and give you a speed boost to catch up to em
Always seemingly a tough choice for anyone adapting wolverine. He weighs something like 300 lbs. Balancing realism with comic book logic seems to be something they all struggle with regarding wolverine.
With the first gameplay trailer highlighting the "stealth" elements, of Wolverine crouching in a bright yellow suit walking silently on a corrugated metal roof up to an enemy in broad daylight, it's probably too late to turn back. That's probably a 3rd of the gameplay lol
because insomniac is behind it, and they have a pretty great track record with the Spiderman games, Im still somewhat open minded. But this clip alone looks terrible. I actually struggle to find something to compliment about it. Movement looks really stiff, guy ahead looks completely artificial and lifeless how they move, the graphics are super generic. And why are we still doing pointless chase sequences, is there really nothing else that devs can come up with? The fact they thought this would have been good promo material is very concerning.
But again insomniac has made some great games, so it's not like they dont know what they are doing. But damn.
Yep. Looks like something that's gonna make you start over if you're 25 feet behind him instead of 20 but then magically speed up if you get too close.
If you had the ability to flex your movement skills, maybe speccing into my different skills to transverse the world, and using the kit you built to solve the problem at hand.
an artificial hurdle. You could Mixtape it and put the controller down for 5 minutes, hold the left analog stick up, and still get the same cutscenes as if you had tried hard to keep up.
He has a voice line right up at the end that summarises how I feel about these shitty corridor chase sequences "what the hell I don't have time for this"
Fair. I do think the game looks fun overall, but this is definitely a bad clip to suggest that. Chase missions makes some sense in a Spider-Man game where web-swinging is a major part of the gameplay and they want you to get used to it. But like, this is Wolverine. I've....run in video games before....
I don’t mind that type of game but lately it’s the only type of game that their first part studios have been making and that’s boring as hell. I loved the story of ragnarok but my god was that game play dull at times it’s like I’m someone previously known as the god of war why I do feel like the janitor of war?
Agreed, feels too slow, no interesting flow in the movement like in the Spiderman games for example, Wolverine normally can wall jump and traverse on sides to pick up a distance when needed. Here he is just boringly running.
But nothing in this scene makes it feel special. If you told me this was spider man with a Wolverine skin I would believe you.
They should have made Wolverine more of linear game in tight quarters or something to increase action and verocity. The open space and slow speed of Wolverine makes this look like a bore to play.
Are we finally allowed to say this out loud? Everyone acts like Sony exclusives blow the Xbox out of the water and only idiots would buy an Xbox, but yet I can't seem to actually finish any of them.
Except ratchet and clank, I played through that twice.
New Ratchet & Clank is good, but even that series has been watered down since the PS2 and PS3 games. Yes the graphics are better and the gameplay is tighter etc. but the stories in those games used to be genuinely interesting with unique satirical dialogue, now it's just the most sanitised quippy writing in all "kid's" media. The music used to be this electro-future-funk fusion, felt tailor made for the game with each planet having it's own sound, now they just have big orchestral scores. Shit even the UI lacks the originality of the older games
Hand are whole ass ninjas. Bro should be jumping and flipping and kicking off walls and stuff. Make it more cinematic. Dude is just running in a straight line with weird posture lol.
Video game companies have gotten so lazy with their wand-wavey "zipline" mechanics.
In Assassin's Creed (not implying that they started the zipline trope, just a notable example), you had to have a special hook for your blade in order to zipline. Nowadays it just seems like whatever the character is holding is adequate to be used to zipline across a map.
One of my favorite things in Deadlock (the valve moba) is that each character rides the zipline a but different to better fit the character model/style
AC Valhalla: A small axe handle, same animation as the Spear of Leonidas
AC Mirage: Basim uses his hands
AC Shadows: A grapple hook is used, similar to the Rope Launcher
AC Black Flag Resynced: Edward uses a random piece of rope
Assassin's Creed ziplines were trash ever since AC 3, but by Origins they totally gave up on even making it an interesting mechanic. For a game series defined by parkour, it is a massive shame they refused to iterate further on ziplines or even standard rope swings.
They were actually going to bring the Hookblade back for AC Black Flag, but they ended up scrapping the hook and ziplines caus they felt it was cartoonishly pirate like. Like come on Darby, the game is already nothing but pirate stereotypes!
In fact, the last the the Hookblade was even mentioned was in the novelization of the Assassin's Creed 2016 movie.
Rip the Hookblade.
Judging by the comments here, OP posting the chase part rather than the actual gameplay and your downvote, I'd say this sub has an agenda to make this game look bad.
Don't know why but it's rather sad to see bitching about a game looking bad when they are reacting to a single clip of a part that isn't the major focus of the game
Yeah these comments are ridiculously judgmental for what amounts to 10% of the gameplay and probably one single mission in the entire game. Especially considering OP chose to cut off the video the moment that any combat popped up.
The rest of the showcase was also painfully generic and boring. Combat is a mashing and dodge simulator. Giant boss fight straight from the 90s. Clunky movement. No creativity or innovation. This game doesn’t look interesting
I just want to point out that the red line is clearly meant to be a scent trail mechanic that fades as the target gets farther away. It makes sense as a thing for Wolverine to have.
I’m probably going to get really hated on, but the content I’ve seen for this game in general doesn’t honestly look that entertaining to me, especially when compared to the Spider-Man games. But yeah, this video in particular doesn’t look that great and I’m really not trying to stir up anything. I love insomniac.
I feel you. I think its because Wolverine as a character is more fun to watch than to play because of his ability set. A movie or comic can fast forward traversal but in a game he doesnt really have movement like that. Whereas Spider-Man is ALL traversal.
That’s honestly exactly how I feel when I first heard it was announced. My first thought was what are they going to do with him? There’s considerably less concepts they can do with him then with Spider-Man in terms of gameplay.
Same. There's a reason developers keep going back to the well of Batman and Spider-Man for games, beyond their obvious popularity, whilst characters like Superman, Iron Man, Wolverine have seen far less success.
Ultimately they offer a lot of fun different ways to move about maps as well as fight and unlockable abilities, but with clear limits that don't make things trivial or mean you have to implement non-sensical boundaries.
Right! I know Wolverine has animalistic tendencies in the comics but he still has no traversal and his personal villains aren't really that interesting.
So like for real when that first trailer was shown off, all I could think was, I feel like they’re using the gore as the selling point and the distraction because when I actually sat down and just thought about the gameplay itself, I realize the only thing that sparked my interest was the Gore and realized that the gameplay wasn’t really anything too spectacular in my opinion
I don't think you will get hated on the more I see the more drab, boring, uninspired and wait for deep sale this game is turning out to be especially for a stacked out September with Onimusha and other titles hitting around the same time.
Not going lie this doesn’t look that impressive, even the dedicated gameplay segment we had a few months back looked just okay. Sony games are really just starting to look and play all the same…
Meh. Scripted sequence. Spiderman had those too obviously but one of the draws of those games was that the traversal was largely up to the player to figure out and perfect.
I absolutely despise chase objectives where the guy is programed to just be at an unreachable distance so you can trigger a cutscene near the end and never actually catch him.
Cool but people are acting like this is the entire game. A mission that most likely constitutes 1% of what you’ll be doing in the course of this game = garbage running simulator slop in these people’s minds. It’s actually ridiculous.
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u/Sure_Distribution809 19d ago
Thank god they put a big red line otherwise you might get lost in that hallway